Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Ramona

Santa Cruz, CA

#254712 Apr 7, 2013
No
Laika

France

#254714 Apr 7, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Fire retardant isn't designed for large scale fires on multiple floors that input heat into a system for hours on end. It's designed for typical office fires where passive and active fire protection systems can allow for people to escape and for fire fighting to take place.
Your idiotic canard that free fall=demolition still has zero qualification and you making the exact same ignorant claim over and over with various proxy induced socks will not make your wet dream come true. All NIST is commenting on regarding the transfer loading assembly over the ConEd power station is that fire didn't directly cause it to fail and that the global failure of the structure was causedby column 79 which was integral to the overall structural stability of the building.
The very simple reality is that fire can and does cause conditions in steel structures where the threat of structural failure is very real. There are no reputable materials experts or engineers arguing against that fact. NIST's theory isn't that fires were present in one area for long periods of time causing failure in that particular spot. It's theory is that the fires caused damage in various locations and that the accumulated damage from conditions such as thermal heating and linear expansion created stresses not designed for in joints which ultimately failed....
First, I want to express my gratitude to you for sacrificing your valuable family time on a Sunday to instruct us on the vagaries of sprayed fire resistant material. I feel that others on this forum don't show you the appreciation you deserve, but I hope that by the time your fourth anniversary on Topix arrives (soon!), we can all pull together and demonstrate how much we have learned from you, so that you will not feel all your teaching efforts are for naught. You are a tremendous asshat to this humble community, but I fear we do not show our appreciation for your gifts of time and wisdom.

That being said, I confess I am confused over the significance of SFRM ratings. Could you please explain how a 3-hour protection rating for steel insulation could be defeated by a 20 to 30 minute fire, fueled by typical office contents? The insulation is not designed for this? Also, given that steel is a thermal conductor and that heat is constantly being wicked away from the fire zones and radiated away, how could steel temperatures rise to the point where structural failure manifested?

When you say that heat was inputed into the system for hours on end, what was preventing the system from radiating that heat away just as quickly? From the videos available, it appears that the vast majority of WTC-7 was not affected by fire at any given time, and so the heat inputs into the system were far outweighed by distributed "heat outputs."

I eagerly await your answer.

Sincerely,

Laika
Pen

Tabor, Czech Republic

#254715 Apr 7, 2013
Most recent FALSE FLAG attack was the ADAM LANZA school massacre. Until the school security video is released it remains unsolved.

http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/dyla...



http://www.theblackawakening.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Batman Dark Knight Rising movie foreknowledge of Sandy Hook and Aurora theater massacres..

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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#254716 Apr 7, 2013
Pen wrote:
Most recent FALSE FLAG attack was the ADAM LANZA school massacre. Until the school security video is released it remains unsolved.
http://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/tag/dyla...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =X7sW-HGKp7UXX
http://www.theblackawakening.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Batman Dark Knight Rising movie foreknowledge of Sandy Hook and Aurora theater massacres..
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
More delusional nonsense.

A trip to your friendly shrink is in order.

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onemale

Pana, IL

#254717 Apr 7, 2013
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Free fall is irrelevant. The building collapsed due to damage. There were no explosives or demolition.
Here the facts: According to the NIST report building #7 fell due to normal office fires. While sprinkler systems are designed to extinguish office fires. WTC building #3,#4 and #5 surrounded the towers and even though they were severely damaged beyond repair, none of those collapsed even the one that was nearly cut in half. Building #7 had minor damaged, so NIST tells us it fell due to normal office fires. Those are the facts my friend.

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#254718 Apr 7, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Here the facts: According to the NIST report building #7 fell due to normal office fires. While sprinkler systems are designed to extinguish office fires. WTC building #3,#4 and #5 surrounded the towers and even though they were severely damaged beyond repair, none of those collapsed even the one that was nearly cut in half. Building #7 had minor damaged, so NIST tells us it fell due to normal office fires. Those are the facts my friend.
Do more research and you will find serious damage, no standpipes and no operable sprinkler system. The other buildings were made differently and also were damaged in different ways. There is no comparison possible. Not one fireman who was there mentioned anything about demolitions. The fact is, controlled demolitions of steel structures requires tons of properly placed steel plate on each side of a column to direct the charge inward. There was no such rigging. Demolition is pure fantasy. It never happened.
onemale

Pana, IL

#254720 Apr 7, 2013
Numerous fireman and many eyewitnesses mentioned huge explosions.

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onemale

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#254721 Apr 7, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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Free fall is irrelevant. The building collapsed due to damage. There were no explosives or demolition.
Free Fall is Irrelevant??? It defies all the laws of physics.

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#254722 Apr 7, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Free Fall is Irrelevant??? It defies all the laws of physics.
There was no free fall collapse as proposed by conspiracy nuts.

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#254723 Apr 7, 2013
onemale wrote:
Numerous fireman and many eyewitnesses mentioned huge explosions.
False. None for WTC7. None for the towers at collapse if you read all the text without editing.

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Westbury, NY

#254724 Apr 7, 2013
So What ..... things always explode in fires Stupid
onemale wrote:
Numerous fireman and many eyewitnesses mentioned huge explosions.

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#254725 Apr 7, 2013
Looks like we have another gradute from the Pittsfield MA Trucking and Engineering school
onemale wrote:
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Free Fall is Irrelevant??? It defies all the laws of physics.

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#254726 Apr 7, 2013
Consider the following.

I crashed my car into the pole.

This sounds like I did this on purpose to kill myself correct?

Suppose that was taken out of context.

A huge truck veered into my lane, I swerved to avoid a head on collision, as a result, I crashed my car into the pole.

I did this avoiding a certain death inadvertently.

Big difference.

The Conspiracy tapes edited what was said to give the impression of a conspiracy.

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#254727 Apr 7, 2013
Timestin wrote:
So What ..... things always explode in fires Stupid
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And in structural failures and collapse. Only a Twoofer edit would say otherwise.

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#254728 Apr 7, 2013
Tell us something Stupid,how does something falling at the rate of gravity defy all the laws of physics
onemale wrote:
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Free Fall is Irrelevant??? It defies all the laws of physics.

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#254729 Apr 7, 2013
everybody with a half a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job

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oh the irony

Logan, WV

#254730 Apr 7, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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O.o a rousing game of "I know you are but what am I" with the resident drug addict.
Shall I play or go do the brakes on my nieces car....decisions, decisions.
Don't forget to turn the lights out before you leave elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots STREET CORNER JEEBUS...
you've been on this forum amost every day for the past 4 years, I think we already know that you will continue to play here even though no one wants to talk to you anymore.
slurp

Logan, WV

#254731 Apr 7, 2013
Timeten wrote:
everybody with a half a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job
no brain is required to slurp up the official govie fairytale in its entirety...slurp slurp, make you sure you get every last drop.
Frontal Lobotomy Rocks

Santa Cruz, CA

#254732 Apr 7, 2013
Timeten wrote:
everybody with a half a brain knows 9/11 was an inside job
Most of my brain is gone. Definitely an inside job. Any halfwit knows that.
Frontal Lobotomy Rocks

Santa Cruz, CA

#254733 Apr 7, 2013
slurp wrote:
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no brain is required to slurp up the official govie fairytale in its entirety...slurp slurp, make you sure you get every last drop.
Twoof is best for halfwits right? Forget evidence or facts. Just accept the fact 9/11 is an inside job. Anyone with half a brain knows that.

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