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Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

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onemale

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Amee wrote:
Osama was actually a CIA agent,did you know that?
I read a report that we armed and worked with the Taliban and Osama to defeat Russia.

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WRONG ...... would you like to try Double Jeopardy where the prizes can really double ???
onemale wrote:
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I read a report that we armed and worked with the Taliban and Osama to defeat Russia.

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WRONG !!!!

Progress Report on the
Analysis of Red/Gray Chips
in WTC Dust
Prepared for:
Classical Guide
Feb, 2012
Denver, CO
James R. Millette, Ph.D.
Executive Director
MVA Scientific Consultants
3300 Breckinridge Boulevard
Suite 400 Duluth, GA 30096

Conclusions
The red/gray chips found in the WTC dust at four sites in New York City are consistent with a carbon steel coated with an epoxy resin that contains primarily iron oxide and kaolin clay pigments.
There is no evidence of individual elemental aluminum particles of any size in the red/gray chips, therefore the red layer of the red/gray chips is not thermite or nano-thermite.
Nigel wrote:
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There was tens of tons of advanced nanothermitic material and residues of thermite reaction in the World Trace Center dust!
onemale

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We already know the planes were hijacked. The phone calls from the plane confirmed it along with what the ATC heard. The hijackers were both seen and videotaped passing through airport security and boarding the planes. They were crashing the planes rather than flying them safely. The airline pilots have a bias toward safety; they can't even imagine doing such things.
You are forgetting one thing, airline pilots are also concerned about their own safety in the air.
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Charlie Sheen wrote:
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LINK, Who said it was impossible, 20 fake pilots?
20 fake pilots??? I need proof.
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onemale wrote:
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I read a report that we armed and worked with the Taliban and Osama to defeat Russia.
The games still continue -- in Chetchnya and other former Soviet bloc countries -- U.S. arming and funding al kaida.
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onemale wrote:
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A chemical engineer and a scientist found thermite residue in the dust.
NIST admitted they didn't check the dust for any type of explosive resdue. Your problem is you listen to the news.
More than these have found thermite and residue in dust in New York of the Sepetember 11 building destructions
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onemale wrote:
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I read a report that we armed and worked with the Taliban and Osama to defeat Russia.
You read a report. It has been common knowledge for twenty years.
Charlie Sheen

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onemale wrote:
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I just found that interesting, and it is interesting how so many flight recorders didn't make it. The law of averages doesn't match.
LMFAO, First you say none, then you say the law of averages, do explain, in detail, how two black boxes were to survive a 110 story collapse of all those concrete floors.

MAN, You got to be Moobs with logic like that.
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Yuri wrote:
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More than these have found thermite and residue in dust in New York of the Sepetember 11 building destructions
False! None was ever found, it's oil based paint most likely, otherwise explain the lack one of the main components, Barium Nitrate.
Charlie Sheen

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onemale wrote:
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20 fake pilots??? I need proof.
I'm waiting for proof too, trust me, it never comes.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

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EXPLAINING THE THEORY
Just before the Twin Towers collapsed on 9/11, loud explosions were heard inside, leading conspiracy theorists to believe they were caused by explosives.
But according to Christian Simensen of the Norwegian Research Institute SINTEF, these were actually the result of a chemical reaction which caused both buildings to come down.
His theory is that the aluminium used to make the aeroplanes flown by the terrorists melted in the 2,700f heat and dripped down through the building where it mixed with the hundreds of litres of water from the sprinklers.

The combination of the two caused a chemical reaction similar to dynamite which was strong enough to destroy chunks of the building.
Combined with the ferocious heat, this would have been enough to collapse both buildings.
The explosions heard by witnesses were the explosive hydrogen being fired off by the reaction of the liquid aluminium and water, nothing more.
http://houstonfreethinkers.com/all-news/92-91...

And that's why the towers fell.....due to exploding aluminum
Yeah right
And The core with 5" thick steel was blown out by this exploding aluminum and water,eh?
Lmao.....Yeah right.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

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2,700f heat caused by jet fuel and office materials.... That's another.....lmao
Ryan also notes that National Geographic Today and the History Channel asserted fire temperatures of 2,900 and 2,700 F.

Since jet fuel fires burn at a maximum of around 1,500 F (unless in a special combustion chamber) and the melting point of steel is around 2,800 F, the claim that jet fuel fires melted structural steel is absurd. Although the official reports do not hold that the WTC fires melted steel, the origins of this idea is important, since it has been used as a straw-man attack by official story defenders such as Popular Mechanics.

Ryan notes that steel temperatures lag behind gas temperatures in both time and magnitude, and that none of the official reports have performed thermodynamic calculations about the probable steel temperatures. Ryan's own calculations show that steel temperatures in the impact zones probably did not exceed 600 F.
Yet, as Ryan notes, there is always an official explanation for terrorist events. Ryan reviews anomalies in the official account of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, and notes that in that case, as in the case of the World Trade Center, a small group of engineers produced reports supporting the official story.

Ryan shows that the same principals headed the various government investigations of the WTC collapses, the Pentagon crash, and Oklahoma City bombing, despite the fact that the investigations involved assessments of entirely different kinds of structures inflicted with different kinds of damage. Why do the same five or so individuals turn up in investigations relating to terrorist attack, when, according to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), there are 1.5 million engineers in the US? The authors of the official report on the Murrah Federal Building -- Gene Corley, Charles Thornton, Paul Mlaker, and Mete Sozen -- were all among the initial team of the ASCE WTC investigation. Several of these individuals have strong connections to industries that benefited from the attack, such as armaments makers and oil and gas producers.
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NIST now says about 4,500 gallons of jet fuel were available to feed fires -- 590,000 MJ of energy
Office furnishings in the impact zone would have provided 490,000 MJ of energy
Using masses and specific heats for materials heated, a maximum temp in the impact zone can be calculated.
The result is less than 600 degrees F
Assuming fuel burned with perfect efficiency, that no hot gases left the impact zone, no heat escaped by conduction, steel and concrete had unlimited amount of time to absorb all the heat
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_rya...

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Nigel wrote:
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There was tens of tons of advanced nanothermitic material and residues of thermite reaction in the World Trace Center dust!
Prove it!!!

That's a false claim. No devices were found by anyone. There is nothing which qualifies as evidence of such material.

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Timesten wrote:
2,700f heat caused by jet fuel and office materials.... That's another.....lmao
Ryan also notes that National Geographic Today and the History Channel asserted fire temperatures of 2,900 and 2,700 F.
Since jet fuel fires burn at a maximum of around 1,500 F (unless in a special combustion chamber) and the melting point of steel is around 2,800 F, the claim that jet fuel fires melted structural steel is absurd. Although the official reports do not hold that the WTC fires melted steel, the origins of this idea is important, since it has been used as a straw-man attack by official story defenders such as Popular Mechanics.
Ryan notes that steel temperatures lag behind gas temperatures in both time and magnitude, and that none of the official reports have performed thermodynamic calculations about the probable steel temperatures. Ryan's own calculations show that steel temperatures in the impact zones probably did not exceed 600 F.
Yet, as Ryan notes, there is always an official explanation for terrorist events. Ryan reviews anomalies in the official account of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, and notes that in that case, as in the case of the World Trade Center, a small group of engineers produced reports supporting the official story.
Ryan shows that the same principals headed the various government investigations of the WTC collapses, the Pentagon crash, and Oklahoma City bombing, despite the fact that the investigations involved assessments of entirely different kinds of structures inflicted with different kinds of damage. Why do the same five or so individuals turn up in investigations relating to terrorist attack, when, according to the American Society of Civil Engineers (ASCE), there are 1.5 million engineers in the US? The authors of the official report on the Murrah Federal Building -- Gene Corley, Charles Thornton, Paul Mlaker, and Mete Sozen -- were all among the initial team of the ASCE WTC investigation. Several of these individuals have strong connections to industries that benefited from the attack, such as armaments makers and oil and gas producers.
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NIST now says about 4,500 gallons of jet fuel were available to feed fires -- 590,000 MJ of energy
Office furnishings in the impact zone would have provided 490,000 MJ of energy
Using masses and specific heats for materials heated, a maximum temp in the impact zone can be calculated.
The result is less than 600 degrees F
Assuming fuel burned with perfect efficiency, that no hot gases left the impact zone, no heat escaped by conduction, steel and concrete had unlimited amount of time to absorb all the heat
http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_rya...
False conclusion. Updrafts cause high combustion temperatures!!!

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onemale wrote:
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A chemical engineer and a scientist found thermite residue in the dust.
NIST admitted they didn't check the dust for any type of explosive resdue. Your problem is you listen to the news.
Doesn't count. Could have been planted just to make up a story. Besides, nobody found any devices or evidence of such. Let's go with your theory of devices. What about the unexploded devices such as those which failed and those place above the point of impact? Get the drift?
Say the Truth

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onemale wrote:
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The cockpit recorder would have told what language was being used, either Arabian or Arabian accent. And how they could fly a 100 ton jetliner in a fashion that airline pilots have said was impossible.
Impossible? Well, that is moot, since it obviously was flown the way it was.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

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False conclusion. Updrafts cause high combustion temperatures!!!
Up drafts from where? Elevator shafts? The impact hole?
http://img312.imageshack.us/img312/3716/wtcel...

I doubt it very much, seeing after the initial explosion of fuel,
http://media.washtimes.com/media/community/vi...
there were hardly any roaring fires burning.
http://crisis.prj.hu/hostlogic/%257Enick/wtc/...
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https://www.google.com/search...
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Verses these buildings which had hotter, longer burning fires and they did NOT collapse.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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But of course you shills will concoct something up to defend your precious leaders....even if it's a lie that they told you, you still defend them.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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Amee wrote:
9/11 In Plane Sight,watch it.A lot of facts that we have never seen
LMAO!!!
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onemale wrote:
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A chemical engineer and a scientist found thermite residue in the dust.
NIST admitted they didn't check the dust for any type of explosive resdue. Your problem is you listen to the news.
Did they collect it themselves?

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