Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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Since: Aug 11

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#253788 Mar 5, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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So your price is firm, no discounts at all rent boy?
Damnit! Now I need a new keyboard. I laughed so hard I blew my coffee all over it.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#253790 Mar 6, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The TSA allowing pocketknives on planes again is the ultimate disrespect to every person who died,or was injured,at the hands of the evil Islamic extremist cowards who attacked America on September 11,2001.
The TSA acknowledged the simple fact that the locks on the cockpit doors addressed the hijacking a plane issue, and made the right decision for once to allow.

You want to know what lack of respect for the dead is? Its not firing people for allowing NORAD to stand down, Its using their deaths to justify injust wars. Its allowing NIST to conduct a poor investigation of what caused the collapse and using unlikely computer modeling to unscientifically prove it. And its people like you who use their deaths as a way to guilt others to believe your own brainwashed viewpoint you think is reality..

TSA for once makes a reasonable decision and you condomn them for it, because we don't want people getting a glimpse of reason, as they might start expecting it.

Weirdo.

Insults Are Easier

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#253791 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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The TSA acknowledged the simple fact that the locks on the cockpit doors addressed the hijacking a plane issue, and made the right decision for once to allow.
You want to know what lack of respect for the dead is? Its not firing people for allowing NORAD to stand down, Its using their deaths to justify injust wars. Its allowing NIST to conduct a poor investigation of what caused the collapse and using unlikely computer modeling to unscientifically prove it. And its people like you who use their deaths as a way to guilt others to believe your own brainwashed viewpoint you think is reality..
TSA for once makes a reasonable decision and you condomn them for it, because we don't want people getting a glimpse of reason, as they might start expecting it.
Weirdo.
Insults Are Easier
NORAD stand down is another fallacy. No civilian aircraft can be shot down without the proper orders from the chain of command. There was insufficient time for those orders to work their way up and down the chain of command.

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#253792 Mar 6, 2013
Doctor REALITY wrote:
The TSA allowing pocketknives on planes again is the ultimate disrespect to every person who died,or was injured,at the hands of the evil Islamic extremist cowards who attacked America on September 11,2001.
Exactly! The only possible way 9/11 could have been prevented was to keep the hijacker off the planes in the first place.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253793 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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You want to know what lack of respect for the dead is? Its not firing people for allowing NORAD to stand down,
Who were those 20 pilots again that could not hit the WTC?

And the amazing 9 minute standdown, hold on, they had to get to their planes.

8:37 a.m.
The Northeast American Defense Sector (NEADS) of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) is notified of the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11 by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Boston Center Control. The controller requests military help to intercept the aircraft.

8:46 a.m.
F-15 fighter jets are dispatched from Otis Air Force Base in Mass., but because Flight 11's transponder is off, Air Force pilots do not know which direction to travel to meet the plane. NEADS personnel spend the next several minutes watching their radar scopes waiting for Flight 11 to reappear.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#253794 Mar 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>Who were those 20 pilots again that could not hit the WTC?

And the amazing 9 minute standdown, hold on, they had to get to their planes.

8:37 a.m.
The Northeast American Defense Sector (NEADS) of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) is notified of the hijacking of American Airlines Flight 11 by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration's (FAA) Boston Center Control. The controller requests military help to intercept the aircraft.

8:46 a.m.
F-15 fighter jets are dispatched from Otis Air Force Base in Mass., but because Flight 11's transponder is off, Air Force pilots do not know which direction to travel to meet the plane. NEADS personnel spend the next several minutes watching their radar scopes waiting for Flight 11 to reappear.
Because its transponder was off, NORAD couldn't find it with RADAR?

Where those stealth commercial jets?

So quick, copy paste another unthinking debunk article from Popular Mechanics or 911 Myths.con, your house of unthinking worship, fanatical troll.

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253795 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Because its transponder was off, NORAD couldn't find it with RADAR?
Where those stealth commercial jets?
Hey, That's my area, with a transponder cut, with the most common (by far) radar in ATC what do you see?

1. Nothing?
2. Just a blip?
3. A blip and all info?

Big hint Mr. know nothing, the most commonly used ATC radar is not even reflective.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#253796 Mar 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, That's my area, with a transponder cut, with the most common (by far) radar in ATC what do you see?

1. Nothing?
2. Just a blip?
3. A blip and all info?

Big hint Mr. know nothing, the most commonly used ATC radar is not even reflective.
What kind of RADAR does not reflect? Seems kinda against the definition of RADAR doesn't it?

You really believe NORAD requires ATC to monitor continental airspace?

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253797 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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What kind of RADAR does not reflect? Seems kinda against the definition of RADAR doesn't it?
And there you go, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU PRETEND YOU DO, WHAT A TWOOFER!

It sends a radio signal, the plane, if the transponder is working sends all data such as altitude, direction, position and airspeed back.

ATC uses primarily secondary radar which is non reflective, if the transponder is off it sends nothing back.

Another type of transponder occurs in identification friend or foe systems in military aviation and in air traffic control secondary surveillance radar (beacon radar) systems for general aviation and commercial aviation. Primary radar works best with large all-metal aircraft, but not so well on small, composite aircraft. Its range is also limited by terrain and rain or snow and also detects unwanted objects such as automobiles, hills and trees. Furthermore it cannot always estimate the altitude of an aircraft. Secondary radar overcomes these limitations but it depends on a transponder in the aircraft to respond to interrogations from the ground station to make the plane more visible.

Depending on the type of interrogation, the transponder sends back a transponder code (or "squawk code")(Mode A) or altitude information (Mode C) to help air traffic controllers to identify the aircraft and to maintain separation. Another mode called Mode S (Mode Select) is designed to help avoiding overinterogation of the transponder (having many radars in busy areas) and to allow automatic collision avoidance. Mode S transponders are 'backwards compatible' with Modes A & C. Mode S is mandatory in controlled airspace in many countries. Some countries have also required, or are moving towards requiring, that all aircraft be equipped with Mode S, even in uncontrolled airspace. However in the field of general aviation, there have been objections to these moves, because of the cost, size, limited benefit to the users in uncontrolled airspace, and, in the case of balloons and gliders, the power requirements during long flights.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253798 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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You really believe NORAD requires ATC to monitor continental airspace?
Insults Are Easier
Yes, That is why there is a NORAD Liaison at ATC to transmit information from what ATC sees to NORAD, NOW, WHAT DID NORAD SEE ON THEIR BOARDS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS ON 9/11 AND BEFORE, and what form of communication did ATC and NORAD use to tell each other what they were seeing.

(Hint, the problem was fixed about a year latter because of 9/11.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#253799 Mar 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, That is why there is a NORAD Liaison at ATC to transmit information from what ATC sees to NORAD, NOW, WHAT DID NORAD SEE ON THEIR BOARDS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS ON 9/11 AND BEFORE, and what form of communication did ATC and NORAD use to tell each other what they were seeing.

(Hint, the problem was fixed about a year latter because of 9/11.
So a Soviet bomber in the 80's could not be tracked over the US if it turned off its transponder?

Who ever needed stealth technology, right?

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253800 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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So a Soviet bomber in the 80's could not be tracked over the US if it turned off its transponder?
Who ever needed stealth technology, right?
Insults Are Easier
You are starting to get the idea, NORAD does not focus on transponders for ID! SO WHAT DID THEY SEE?

ONCE AGAIN!

Yes, That is why there is a NORAD Liaison at ATC to transmit information from what ATC sees to NORAD, NOW, WHAT DID NORAD SEE ON THEIR BOARDS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS ON 9/11 AND BEFORE, and what form of communication did ATC and NORAD use to tell each other what they were seeing.

(Hint, the problem was fixed about a year latter because of 9/11.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#253801 Mar 6, 2013
OIC, NORAD never knew which aircraft were commercial aircraft or Soviet bombers in the 80's because they just had a screen of non echoing radar blimps that depended on transponders that they didnt have direct access to.

Ok, go back to your spam hobby, no lifer, I've heard enough drooling for one day.

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253802 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
OIC, NORAD never knew which aircraft were commercial aircraft or Soviet bombers in the 80's because they just had a screen of non echoing radar blimps that depended on transponders that they didnt have direct access to.
Yawn, No wonder you are a twoofer, you can't even read.

ONCE AGAIN! They use a different method of ID, What, you expect a Russian Bear with it's transponder yelling "I'm A Russian Bear, coming to nuke you and here is exactly where I am?

NORAD does not focus on transponders for ID! SO WHAT DID THEY SEE?

Yes, That is why there is a NORAD Liaison at ATC to transmit information from what ATC sees to NORAD, NOW, WHAT DID NORAD SEE ON THEIR BOARDS FOR ALL COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS ON 9/11 AND BEFORE, and what form of communication did ATC and NORAD use to tell each other what they were seeing.

(Hint, the problem was fixed about a year latter because of 9/11.)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253803 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Ok, go back to your spam hobby, no lifer, I've heard enough drooling for one day.
Insults Are Easier
Are you crying or off to build more straw-men?

Since: Aug 11

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#253804 Mar 6, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Because its transponder was off, NORAD couldn't find it with RADAR?
Where those stealth commercial jets?
So quick, copy paste another unthinking debunk article from Popular Mechanics or 911 Myths.con, your house of unthinking worship, fanatical troll.
Insults Are Easier
All aircraft except those flying below the radar show up on the screens. Transponders are used for identifying flights. During 9/11 ATC also asked for help from other aircraft to identify the errant planes which some did.

Since: Aug 11

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#253805 Mar 6, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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And there you go, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT YOU PRETEND YOU DO, WHAT A TWOOFER!
It sends a radio signal, the plane, if the transponder is working sends all data such as altitude, direction, position and airspeed back.
ATC uses primarily secondary radar which is non reflective, if the transponder is off it sends nothing back.
Another type of transponder occurs in identification friend or foe systems in military aviation and in air traffic control secondary surveillance radar (beacon radar) systems for general aviation and commercial aviation. Primary radar works best with large all-metal aircraft, but not so well on small, composite aircraft. Its range is also limited by terrain and rain or snow and also detects unwanted objects such as automobiles, hills and trees. Furthermore it cannot always estimate the altitude of an aircraft. Secondary radar overcomes these limitations but it depends on a transponder in the aircraft to respond to interrogations from the ground station to make the plane more visible.
Depending on the type of interrogation, the transponder sends back a transponder code (or "squawk code")(Mode A) or altitude information (Mode C) to help air traffic controllers to identify the aircraft and to maintain separation. Another mode called Mode S (Mode Select) is designed to help avoiding overinterogation of the transponder (having many radars in busy areas) and to allow automatic collision avoidance. Mode S transponders are 'backwards compatible' with Modes A & C. Mode S is mandatory in controlled airspace in many countries. Some countries have also required, or are moving towards requiring, that all aircraft be equipped with Mode S, even in uncontrolled airspace. However in the field of general aviation, there have been objections to these moves, because of the cost, size, limited benefit to the users in uncontrolled airspace, and, in the case of balloons and gliders, the power requirements during long flights.
I stand corrected.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#253806 Mar 6, 2013
It's steel plating all over again!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253810 Mar 6, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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I stand corrected.
No, You are right expect for a few seconds, me and Mr. I know transponders never got to the point because he thinks the most common radar (secondary) is reflective. It works like a walkie talkie but automated, tower sends a radio signal (not true radar though it's call radar), the plane does not send a signal back. Now there are 8000 blips on the screen and old fashioned not very accurate primary radar kicks in. ATC sees the few blips that have no transponder info because they are picked up by primary (reflective) radar, now the NORAD liaison at ATC calls NORAD via PHONE!

What can NORAD see? That is the key, I shall ask Dr. I understand everything but don't even know the basics tomorrow.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#253811 Mar 6, 2013
Timesten wrote:
No scumbag!

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