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Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

# Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

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#253108 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
According to architects the towers were designed to withstand a 707 airplane crash. Yes a 767 (the jet that crashed into the south tower) is bigger but here are figures from structural engineers:
The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 707 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 336,000 x (890)^2/32.174
= 4.136 billion ft lbs force (5,607,720 Kilojoules).
The kinetic energy released by the impact of a Boeing 767 at cruise speed is
= 0.5 x 395,000 x (777)^2/32.174
= 3.706 billion ft lbs force (5,024,650 Kilojoules).
From this, we see a Boeing 707 would smash into the WTC with about 10 percent more energy than would the slightly heavier Boeing 767. A Boeing 707 would do more damage than a Boeing 767.
Source:
http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news-section/41-...
P.S. How could a heavier plane cause less damage? Due to better aerodynamics of the 767 the designer engineers could use thinner metal and secondary parts were made from carbon fiber. They did this to improve energy efficiency. Higher efficiency planes helped to keep the airlines afloat.
Again, your charlatan masters are using the maximum velocity of a 707 when the designers state they imagined a slow flying 707 lost in the fog.

Impact energy of the attacks is around 10 times what the designers expected.

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#253109 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
I'm not saying a plane didn't hit it, I'm only saying there are other forces going on here. According to architects each tower had 244 vertical beams, therefore, it could not have sliced into them in the fashion that it shows. The tail section of a 767 is 52'(four stories) high it should have broke off or folded back. The wing span is 156' therefore the wings should have been sheared off or folded back. Jets are only made strong enough to withstand the impact of the wind, not massive beams of metal and concrete. A plane that was landing to pick up president Bush crashed because the wing just clipped a metal light post.
I didn't know you were an expert on plane crashes. How about planes flying at full speed, fully loaded with fuel crashing into buildings. What exactly is your personal experience of these matters?

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#253110 Feb 15, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>And they did...so now what?
Of course.

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#253111 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
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Former tree??? Not a chance!
Back in the 70's I knew someone who had a brand new 70 Plymouth, Road Runner, one night he was running from the cops. He hit a tree running at a hgh rate of speed... He died instantly, the frame was stuck in the tree but The Tree Still Stands. And back then the cars were built, they wasn't flimsy pieces of shit like they are now.
High rate of speed? Like 100mph? Sorry the plane was flying over five times faster. You said the frame stuck into the tree. How about the aircraft frame slicing through the building full of windows? How about many heavy parts? If you were familiar with high impact crashes, you would know that the skin shatters like an egg.
Charlie Sheen
#253112 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
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The towers were designed to withstand a jet crash.
And they did parrot, the person who conducted the study and wrote the report said fire was not taken into account.

Robertson took the time to calculate how well his towers would handle the impact from a Boeing 707, the largest jetliner in service at the time. He says that his calculations assumed a plane lost in a fog while searching for an airport at relatively low speed, like the B-25 bomber. He concluded that the towers would remain standing despite the force of the impact and the hole it would punch out. The new technologies he had installed after the motion experiments and wind-tunnel work had created a structure more than strong enough to withstand such a blow.

Exactly how Robertson performed these calculations is apparently lost -- he says he cannot find a copy of the report. Several engineers who worked with him at the time, including the director of his computer department, say they have no recollection of ever seeing the study. But the Port Authority, eager to mount a counterattack against Wien, seized on the results -- and may in fact have exaggerated them. One architect working for the Port Authority issued a statement to the press, covered in a prominent article in The Times, explaining that Robertson's study proved that the towers could withstand the impact of a jetliner moving at 600 miles an hour. That was perhaps three times the speed that Robertson had considered. If Robertson saw the article in the paper, he never spoke up about the discrepancy. No one else issued a correction, and the question was answered in many people's minds: the towers were as safe as could be expected, even in the most cataclysmic of circumstances.

There were only two problems. The first, of course, was that no study of the impact of a 600-mile-an-hour plane ever existed.''That's got nothing to do with the reality of what we did,'' Robertson snapped when shown the Port Authority architect's statement more than three decades later. The second problem was that no one thought to take into account the fires that would inevitably break out when the jetliner's fuel exploded, exactly as the B-25's had. And if Wien was the trade center's Cassandra, fire protection would become its Achilles' heel.

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#253113 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
As one physicist said you have two choices either believe physics or believe the NIST report.
So, ONE? LINK with the logic behind the statement.

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Guise Faux
#253115 Feb 15, 2013
Did you hear about the physicist who chose to believe Sir Isaac Newton instead of NIST?

Well he didn't work for the government.

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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

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#253116 Feb 15, 2013
Guise Faux wrote:
Did you hear about the physicist who chose to believe Sir Isaac Newton instead of NIST?

Well he didn't work for the government.
Was he the same one that thought elevators can't go up or down?

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop!

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onemale
#253117 Feb 15, 2013
This is pointless.
No offense but, your non-expert opinions or the BS on You-Tube, means nothing to me. I'm only taking the opinions of the 1500 architects, engineers, physicists and eye witnesses who doesnÂ’t believe the NIST report and are pushing for an independent investigation.

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#253120 Feb 15, 2013
onemale wrote:
This is pointless.
No offense but, your non-expert opinions or the BS on You-Tube, means nothing to me. I'm only taking the opinions of the 1500 architects, engineers, physicists and eye witnesses who doesnÂ’t believe the NIST report and are pushing for an independent investigation.
Opinions mean nothing without empirical evidence which abounds. Investigate what exactly?

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** 9-11 was an inside job **

#253121 Feb 16, 2013
false flag wrote:
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I agree, there has been an all out attack on American freedom done by elements within our very own government who pulled off this false flag attack so that they can pass legislation like the Patriot Act and NDAA.
Oh but of course you still believe it was done by a bunch of college aged Muslim radicals who frequented strip bars and couldn't pass flying lessons on Cessnas who used boxcutters to hijack planes and evaded the world's most sophisticated military and all orchestrated by a man on dialysis in an underground cave in Afghanistan using a cell phone and a laptop.
Agreed 100%
November 10, 2001 - President Bush Speaks to United Nations....
G.W. Bush: "We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories concerning the attacks of September the 11th; malicious lies that attempt to shift the blame away from the terrorists, themselves, away from the guilty. To inflame ethnic hatred is to advance the cause of terror."

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** 9-11 was an inside job **

#253122 Feb 16, 2013
onemale wrote:
This is pointless.
No offense but, your non-expert opinions or the BS on You-Tube, means nothing to me. I'm only taking the opinions of the 1500 architects, engineers, physicists and eye witnesses who doesnÂ’t believe the NIST report and are pushing for an independent investigation.
"Tell these govie shills the sun is hot and they would jump up and say.... Dum twoofers...No it's not and we already proved that to you a dozen times already.
And also blah blah blah. See we are right and you are not."

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I agree with you onemale as so do millions of others with like minds.

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** 9-11 was an inside job **

#253123 Feb 16, 2013
G.W. Bush: "We must speak the truth about terror. Let us never tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories
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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Cx5YSp-ghS8/TTHO0sQ...

"We must speak the truth"
Yes we must, mustn't we, except when the finger is pointing at you, then all of a sudden it's behind the closed doors, the 5th amendment, denials and lies and totally off the record and not under oath, for you and yours huh?

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hhhm
#253124 Feb 16, 2013
look up
prescot bush
scull and bones
thermite
the third tower
false flags

3 targets
wtc accomplished
pentagon accompished
white house didnt make its course
no interception at all

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hhhm
#253125 Feb 16, 2013
prescot bush should say it all ... along with scull and bones.

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** 9-11 was an inside job **

#253127 Feb 16, 2013
hhhm wrote:
prescot bush should say it all ... along with scull and bones.
Agreed hhhm and along with a few other secret societies.

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Charlie Sheen
#253128 Feb 16, 2013
Timesten wrote:
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Agreed hhhm and along with a few other secret societies.
Come on MOOBS, tell us more about those psychic super soldiers that can turn invisible, walk through walls and kill goats with their mind in order to battle the paranormal.

Face it Tom, if it is stupid and makes no sense in you mind it is 100% true, no questions asked.

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#253129 Feb 16, 2013
He was also a Cub Scout ...... now THAT says it al !!!
hhhm wrote:
prescot bush should say it all ... along with scull and bones.

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hhhm
#253130 Feb 16, 2013
from a cub scout to a secret agent for natzi germany ... he turned out real well .
then george gos awal in the airforce.
way to support this country

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hhhm
#253131 Feb 16, 2013
wow got spammed clueless and nuts lmao someone has the wool pulled over there eyes lets belive what the government tells you they ALWAYS tell you the truth dont they .. baaaaaah baaaaaah

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