Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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rider

Gwinn, MI

#252779 Feb 1, 2013
True evil does not develop in a vacuum.

Evil is arrogant. It has no conscience. It is utterly self-serving. It hides from the light and will attack, even destroy others to preserve its own demented delusions. It is an unrestrained sociopath, wallowing in the murky darkness of its own psychosis while endlessly rationalizing its terrible deeds. It infiltrates the weak-minded and subverts the weak of character.

Evil... creates a world of shadows - shadow play - shadow government. It lives by the lie.

“The Big Lie,” once thought to be the exclusive purview of the Nazis, has become canonized in our form of government. And it is growing more perverse—more insidious. Like the Nazis before the fall of the Third Reich, we are a nation wallowing in the murky darkness of our own psychosis.

I can think of no contemporary American family more twisted and evil than the Bush dynasty.

The Bush family’s rapacious greed and depravity can trace its lineage to New England’s Pierce family. Both George Herbert Walker Bush and his wife Barbara Pierce (of Merrill, Lynch, Pierce, Fenner and Smith), as was President Franklin Pierce, are descended from this same family. Originally the powerful Percy family, they changed their name to Pierce and quickly emigrated to America when Thomas Percy’s involvement in the Gun Powder Plot to assassinate King James I was revealed.[*]

Bush’s membership in the shadowy Yale secret society of Skull and Bones (S&B) has likewise not been widely reported. S&B is made up of members recruited exclusively from the ranks of the wealthy Eastern Establishment.[*] As Hoover Institute professor Antony Sutton writes in America’s Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull and Bones:

“Those on the inside know it as The Order. Others have known it for more than 150 years as Chapter 322 of a German secret society. More formally for legal purposes, The Order was incorporated as The Russell Trust in 1856. It was also known as the Brotherhood of Death....”[1]

http://www.voxfux.com/features/bush_world_cla...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252780 Feb 1, 2013
A Psychological Operations Specialist is an information and media specialist who can assess the information needs of a target population and develop and deliver the right message at the right time and place to create the intended result. As a member of the Army Special Operations community, the Psychological Operations Specialist is primarily responsible for the analysis, development and distribution of information used for information and psychological effect.[31]

A PsyOps specialist requires a score of at least 105 on the ASVAB (Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery) The ASVAB is developed by the Department of Defense (DoD) and offered by the US Military Entrance Processing Command.[32]

ASVAB is a highly specialized DoD Personality Assessment System Test (PAS) developed especially by CIA Genius John W. Gittinger to describe personality traits and predict behavior for MK ULTRA Mind Control and military intelligence purposes.[33]

The score for PsyOps specialist is higher than U.S. military counterintelligence (CI) applicants.[34] High ASVAB-PAS scores also draw the interest of the CIA.[35]

In the beginning, Page was no aimless dummy and ardent THIRD REICH racialist. His psychological profiles and high ASVAB-PAS scores grew the interest of military intelligence and most likely the CIA.

Page was a highly intelligent military “cream of the crop” candidate that was given to military intelligence PsycOps to mold, shape and develop. Page reached the rank of staff sergeant for the “9th PsyOps Battalion, which is the support battalion for the 4thPsyOps group of Fort Bragg, NC and Fort Bliss, TX.

The DARK KNIGHT was not created out of a vacuum. Wade Michael Page was like an empty vessel molded and shaped by military intelligence PsycOps.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252781 Feb 1, 2013
New York Wall Street Bankers Allen Welsh Dulles and his brother John Foster Dulles were some of the major American traitors working behind the veil to deliver the country over to an elite international fascist-racialist oligarchic cabal; and the THIRD REICH. In November 1934, U.S. Army Major General Smedley Darlington Butler testified in secret to the Special Committee on Un-American Activities Authorized to Investigate Nazi Propaganda and Certain Other Propaganda Activities (the McCormack-Dickstein Committee) in the United States.[
General Butler claimed that there was plot to assassinate the President of the United States and a coup plot to turn America into a Hitler-Fascist dictatorship. He said that the American Liberty League was the main organization behind the plot. He added the main backers were the Du Pont family, as well as leaders of U.S. Steel, General Motors, Standard Oil, Chase National Bank, and Goodyear Tire and Rubber Company.[Butler also named the Bush Family, Prescott Sheldon Bush, Sr., as one of the conspirators. At the time Bush was along with W. Averell Harriman, E. Roland Harriman and George Herbert Walker, managing partners in Brown Brothers Harriman. Bush was also director of the Harriman Fifteen Corporation. This in turn controlled the Consolidated Silesia Steel Corporation that owned one-third of a complex of steel-making, coal-mining and zinc-mining activities in Germany and Poland. Friedrich Flick owned the other two-thirds of the operation. Flick was a leading financial supporter of the Nazi Party and in the 1930s donated over seven million marks to the party. A close friend of Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler, Flick also gave the Schutz Staffeinel (SS) 10,000 marks a year. General Butler called American Wars a multi-billion dollar RACKET of the fascist oligarchic elite.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#252782 Feb 1, 2013
911facts wrote:
Boring rants interest you?
What thermite?
Indeed!!!!
Twenty pilots who live on Fantasy Island.
Da elevator, da elevator!
Welcome to twooferdumb!
Typical shills annoyance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0esUFZcMtdAXX
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Hello socks. How are you doing today?
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252783 Feb 1, 2013
By the way, President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s Summer White House was at the Denver, Colorado home of his father-in-law, John Sheldon Doud.[41]
The Doud family came from Guilford, England in 1639. John Sheldon Doud came to Boone in the early 1890′s and established a meatpacking company with his father, Royal Doud, of Chicago. John also had a livestock commission business, Doud and Montgomery. John Doud made a fortune from meat packing business to retire in 1902. In 1905, he moved to Denver.[42]
Doud made his millions in the infamous U.S. Army Beef Scandal of a RACKET described by General Butler, the Spanish American War of 1898.[43] More soldiers died from contaminated beef than fell in battle.
The THIRD REICH on the Underground Express to Washington DC
After the Nazi defeat in the War of Stalingrad on the eastern front and Allied Forces advances on the western front, the THIRD REICH intensified its efforts to go underground.[44] On the front, the Allied Forces public stance on the Nazis was “unconditional surrender.”
On March 8, 1945, Allen Dulles, OSS Station Chief in Bern, Switzerland, and the Nazi SS began Operation RUSTY.
Operation RUSTY was clandestine surrender negotiations between representatives of the German High Military Command, Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler’s Personal Representative Waffen-SS Obergruppenführer Karl Friedrich OttoWolff, and representatives of American and British Command.[45] Wolff was the Supreme Commander of the S.S. and Police and the German General Plenipotentiary of the Wehrmacht in Italy. Under Wolff’s command in Italy and Austria, there was about a million Waffen-SS soldiers.[46]
Another key Operation RUSTY negotiator behind the veil was Himmler’s Personal Aide, Wicked Walter, the Reich Central Security Administrator (RSHA), Standartenführer SS Walter Schellenberg.[47] Himmler and Schellenberg controlled about 750,000 hardcore Allgemeine SS.[48]
Deeply hidden behind the Veil of Operation Rusty was Schellenberg’s deputy officer and SS Freemason Expert, HAUPTSTURMFÜHRER SS BARON OTTO VON BOLSCHWING.[49]
Baron SS von Bolschwing was the key among other things to developing plans and operations for the SS (Knights of the Black Sun) to infiltrate and takeover the higher hierarchical orders of the freemasonry through the medieval olden Teutonic Knights.
Baron SS von Bolschwing was born on October 15, 1909 a second son of a Junker Family (Second Reich- Unification of Teutonic Order Aristocratic Landowners-City States) in the village of Szczurkowo (German: Schönbruch), East Prussia on land that since the 14th Century (1302 A.D) had been property of the “Chivalrous” Order of the Teutonic Knights.
Allied Forces direct negotiations with the diabolical mass murdering human rights war criminals, Himmler and the SS, that dog wouldn’t hunt.
In June 1945, Dulles, William J. Donovan, William Casey of the OSS, Sir William Stephenson for the British, and SS Wolff created Operation SUNRISE under the veil of Wehrmacht Army General ReinhardGehlen, Hitler’s chief intelligence officer against the Soviet Union.[50]
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252784 Feb 1, 2013
Moobs the psychic super solider fighting the paranormal though perpetual unemployment posted this in his other thread!

Tom, Please be nice to the nurse or she will have to sedate you again.
Timesten wrote:
You're an idiot sheen
What is less well-known, however, is that the U.S. military did try to create such a breed of 'supersoldier'. And that killing goats with psychic powers was just the tip of the iceberg.
Indeed, the fruits of Project Jedi, and several other clandestine paranormal projects, have been actively used in battle - and are almost certainly being employed in the war on terror and the hunt for Osama Bin Laden.
'You have to understand that these ideas were not considered wacky,' says Sergeant Glenn Wheaton, a Special Forces soldier seconded to Project Jedi.
'They were seen as the next military frontier. We needed to know whether it was possible to use paranormal forces for military ends. We also needed to know how to protect ourselves should they be used against us.'
One of the great proponents of psychic warfare was Major General Albert Stubblebine III - and back in 1983, he was at the height of his powers.
He was one of America's most distinguished soldiers and chief of U.S. Army Intelligence, with 16,000 soldiers under his command. He was instrumental in the invasions of Panama and Grenada. In fact, it is no exaggeration to say that Albert Stubblebine III was at the heart of America's military machine.
A Major General has a little higher rank than you private Sheen...
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Stubblebine graduated from the United States Military Academy and received a master's degree in chemical engineering from Columbia University. His active duty career spanned 32 years, and he is credited with redesigning the U.S. Army intelligence architecture during his command of the United States Army Intelligence and Security Command from 1981 to 1984.
Other U.S. Army commands that he led included the Electronic Research and Development Command (ERADCOM) and the Intelligence and Security Command (INSCOM). Stubblebine was a key person in the U.S. military invasion of Grenada and was, according to a report published by the Daily Mail, "at the heart of America's military machine". He is a member of the Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
After Stubblebine retired from the Army in 1984 he worked for BDM Corporation. He also acted as a part-time consultant to two government contractors, ERIM and Space Applications Corporation.
Stubblebine appeared in the 2006 documentary "One Nation Under Siege
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And you probably never heard of PSYOP.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_Op... (United_States)
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How could you know about it you spend all your time in denials and never research matters.
Say the Truth

San Rafael, CA

#252785 Feb 1, 2013
mu shu pork pig

You should really have the phrase "Lying Ideologue Pig" tattoo'd on your forehead because you are one.
911 is not over

Pittsfield, MA

#252787 Feb 1, 2013
Operation Terror
The 9/11 story you are not supposed to know.
James McCullough from the mysterious “Council” gives a special assignment to CIA agent Aaron Delgado to attack the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and pin the blame on Muslim Terrorists. Delgado and fellow agents, Phillip Singer and Chase Jordan, work with a group of unsuspecting engineers to develop unmanned jets that will hit their assigned targets.
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The Army and the FBI begin to uncover the plot, forcing Delgado to intervene. The CIA agents also have to deal with an increasingly suspicious George Poole, the lead engineer working on the drones, who becomes skeptical on how the remote controlled planes will be used. A battle between good and evil ensues as the plot to attack America becomes a hard-hitting reality.
http://vimeo.com/34150493
911 is not over

Pittsfield, MA

#252788 Feb 1, 2013
911 is not over

Pittsfield, MA

#252789 Feb 1, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Moobs]
<quoted text>
You forgot the link moob troll
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TAR7J0U...
911 is not over

Pittsfield, MA

#252790 Feb 1, 2013
You too can be a 911 debunker... just like pork/waste/sheen/radekt/stt/NF L..to name a few....
With one easy lesson here.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252791 Feb 1, 2013
911 is not over wrote:
Operation Terror
The Army and the FBI begin to uncover the plot, forcing Delgado to intervene. The CIA agents also have to deal with an increasingly suspicious George Poole, the lead engineer working on the drones, who becomes skeptical on how the remote controlled planes will be used. A battle between good and evil ensues as the plot to attack America becomes a hard-hitting reality.
http://vimeo.com/34150493
False, the planes could not be remote controlled, debunk this.

The 757 and 767 do not have "fly by wire" capabilities (their control systems are mechanical, not electronic, with cables and hydraulics to move the control surfaces). The only plane that did at the time was the 777, and even this could be overridden by the pilot.

And explain how you can get around these issues.

http://www.911myths.com/Remote_Takeover.pdf
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252792 Feb 1, 2013
911 is not over wrote:
Severe visibility...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =4wOY39j8kM0XX
Lampposts were knocked down, debris was found, there are 100's of witnesses that saw the plane right down to the AA markings, the hole was more than big enough for the fuselage, the wings were full of fuel and blew up on impact, hence the huge fireball.

Not a single person looking strictly at the area when the explosion happened reported no plane IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252793 Feb 1, 2013

The Assignment scene in the 9/11 movie Operation Terror
from Art Olivier Plus 3 weeks ago not yet rated James McCullough from the mysterious “Council” gives a special assignment to CIA agent Aaron Delgado to attack the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and pin the blame on Muslim Terrorists. Some of the dialog is from the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). M.O. Onjoray plays James McCullough, Jack Brand stars as Aaron Delgado and Danae McKillop is McCullough's Secretary.
http://vimeo.com/57006862
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252794 Feb 1, 2013
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-t...
Charlie Sheen

Seward, NE

#252795 Feb 1, 2013
You do realize that is a fictional movie not a documentary, even though it seems to have the acting and directing chops of Birdemic or The Room it still would have sold to twooofer like hotcakes ... TEN YEARS AGO.

Ten dollars says it hit the new channel of we don't think it can make any money so lets keep distribution costs low, straight to DVD, NOPE, direct to streaming.
rider wrote:
The Assignment scene in the 9/11 movie Operation Terror
from Art Olivier Plus 3 weeks ago not yet rated James McCullough from the mysterious “Council” gives a special assignment to CIA agent Aaron Delgado to attack the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and pin the blame on Muslim Terrorists. Some of the dialog is from the Project for the New American Century (PNAC). M.O. Onjoray plays James McCullough, Jack Brand stars as Aaron Delgado and Danae McKillop is McCullough's Secretary.
http://vimeo.com/57006862
Charlie Sheen

Seward, NE

#252796 Feb 1, 2013
rider wrote:
George Bush: The Unauthorized Biography
http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-t...
LMFAO!

Chapter 1 – The House of Bush: Born in a Bank
Chapter 2 – The Hitler Project
Chapter 3 – Race Hygiene: Three Bush Family Alliances
Chapter 4 – The Center of Power is in Washington
Chapter 5 – Poppy and Mommy
Chapter 6 – Bush in World War II
Chapter 7 – Skull and Bones: The Racist Nightmare at Yale
Chapter 8 – The Permian Basin Gang
Chapter 8b – The Bay of Pigs and The Kennedy Assassination
Chapter 9 – Bush Challenges Yarborough for The Senate
Chapter 10 – Rubbers Goes to Congress
Chapter 11 – United Nations Ambassador, Kissinger Clone
Chapter 12 – Chairman George in Watergate
Chapter 13 – Bush Attempts The Vice Presidency, 1974
Chapter 14 – Bush in Beijing
Chapter 15 – CIA Director
Chapter 16 – Campaign 1980
Chapter 17 – The Attempted Coup D’Etat of March 30, 1981
Chapter 18 – Iran-Contra
Chapter 19 – The Leveraged Buyout Mob
Chapter 20 – The Phony War On Drugs
Chapter 21 – Omaha
Chapter 22 – Bush Takes The Presidency
Chapter 23 – The End of History
Chapter 24 – The New World Order
Chapter 25 – Thyroid Storm
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252797 Feb 1, 2013
A lot of truth to be found in fiction! 7 Days in May: The film the Pentagon did not want made! FULL
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252798 Feb 1, 2013
rider wrote:
A lot of truth to be found in fiction! 7 Days in May: The film the Pentagon did not want made! FULL http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =0sFj7b1c60UXX
Did it actually happen?
Klink

Cameron, MO

#252799 Feb 1, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Lampposts were knocked down, debris was found, there are 100's of witnesses that saw the plane right down to the AA markings, the hole was more than big enough for the fuselage, the wings were full of fuel and blew up on impact, hence the huge fireball.
Not a single person looking strictly at the area when the explosion happened reported no plane IN BROAD DAYLIGHT.

Impossibility for any jumbo jet to fly that low to the ground that distance, according to the experienced pilots themselves.

There are a few witnesses who just happened to be Feds working for the Pentagon - go figure.

If there were a jumbo jet then everyone would have seen it and there would be NO witnesses claiming otherwise, but there are witnesses, even live reports of no plane at the Pentagon on 9/11.

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