Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252095 Jan 24, 2013
Sorry, Trying to avoid Beacons at all costs and none of the planes on 9/11 could have landed via autopilot, you would have to install servo, motors, pulleys and endless heavy cables, there would be no room for passengers.
Timesten wrote:
From Denmark, joined Sep 2001,
Can any of the modern passenger jets around land on autopilot - guided by some fancy ILS system or alike?
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the first autoland was performed by a Trident in about 1965.
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Actually, they have been capable of doing that since 1974. The L-1011 was the first passenger jet to perform the first "autoland". I think all modern airliners now have the capabiliy to perform autolands now.
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So now we see that the autopilot feature could have landed a plane in 2001...
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And here are the components need for that maneuver.
A console.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FMS_B747-co...
Again Hani Hanjour must've studied real hard for this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot
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En route IFR navigation is evolving from the ground based navigational aid (NAVAID) airway system to a sophisticated satellite and computer-based system that can generate courses to suit the operational requirements of almost any flight. Although the promise of the new navigation systems is immense, the present system of navigation serves a valuable function and is expected to remain for a number of years.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/i...
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And remote unmanned aircraft tecnology existed in 2001.
https://www.google.com/search...
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READ...
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_01/h...
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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Virginia9-11Tru...
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Sunday, 28.10.2001
Safety system: Abductees machines arrive independently
A process developed in the U.S. to make Notlandesystem aircraft hijackings: In an emergency, the crew operates a switch - and the machine automatically controls the nearest airport.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/sic...
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Here we are being told how EgyptAir Flight 990, with many high ranking egyptian army officers on board, was crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on October 1999 using remote. According to Dick Eastman Flight 990 served as a dress rehearsal for 9/11.
https://www.google.com/search...

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#252097 Jan 24, 2013
when will you idiots ever come up with a cohesive narrative !?!?!?!?!?
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said all. I am talking of the jets that crashed moron#2. Of course they would have been modified to engage the transition.
Go back to your bridge and ponder on that.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252098 Jan 24, 2013
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said all. I am talking of the jets that crashed moron#2. Of course they would have been modified to engage the transition.
Go back to your bridge and ponder on that.
LOL, Yes, you said a laser, to guide a missile was somehow a beacon to navigate a plane BRONIE.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252099 Jan 24, 2013
Why are none of the 9/11 plane listed, HUM!
Timesten wrote:
From Denmark, joined Sep 2001,
Can any of the modern passenger jets around land on autopilot - guided by some fancy ILS system or alike?
.
the first autoland was performed by a Trident in about 1965.
.
Actually, they have been capable of doing that since 1974. The L-1011 was the first passenger jet to perform the first "autoland". I think all modern airliners now have the capabiliy to perform autolands now.
.
So now we see that the autopilot feature could have landed a plane in 2001...
.
And here are the components need for that maneuver.
A console.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FMS_B747-co...
Again Hani Hanjour must've studied real hard for this one...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopilot
.
En route IFR navigation is evolving from the ground based navigational aid (NAVAID) airway system to a sophisticated satellite and computer-based system that can generate courses to suit the operational requirements of almost any flight. Although the promise of the new navigation systems is immense, the present system of navigation serves a valuable function and is expected to remain for a number of years.
http://www.faa.gov/library/manuals/aviation/i...
.
And remote unmanned aircraft tecnology existed in 2001.
https://www.google.com/search...
.
READ...
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/03_01/h...
.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Virginia9-11Tru...
.
Sunday, 28.10.2001
Safety system: Abductees machines arrive independently
A process developed in the U.S. to make Notlandesystem aircraft hijackings: In an emergency, the crew operates a switch - and the machine automatically controls the nearest airport.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/mensch/sic...
.
Here we are being told how EgyptAir Flight 990, with many high ranking egyptian army officers on board, was crashed into the Atlantic Ocean on October 1999 using remote. According to Dick Eastman Flight 990 served as a dress rehearsal for 9/11.
https://www.google.com/search...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252100 Jan 24, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Actually, they have been capable of doing that since 1974. The L-1011 was the first passenger jet to perform the first "autoland".

I think all modern airliners now have the capabiliy to perform autolands now.
They think and they can't even spell capability BRONIE! That is so compelling!
Say the Truth

Ann Arbor, MI

#252101 Jan 24, 2013
RADEKT wrote:
when will you idiots ever come up with a cohesive narrative !?!?!?!?!?
<quoted text>
They HAVE:

ANYTHING that's not what actually happened!
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252102 Jan 24, 2013
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252103 Jan 24, 2013
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
The planes that hit World Trade Center 1 and 2 were, variously, unmarked planes or remote-controlled guided planes or were guided in following a homing-beacon.
http://www.forteantimes.com/features/articles...
It does not say that at all! BRONIE!

HERE IS WHAT IT SAYS AND OF COURSE IT IS A ALLEGATION, IN FACT THREE CONFLICTING ONES!

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Allegations and Objections

The planes that hit World Trade Center 1 and 2 were, variously, unmarked planes or remote-controlled guided planes or were guided in following a homing-beacon.

CAN YOU EVEN READ BRONIE?
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252104 Jan 24, 2013
SAIC (formerly Science Applications International Corporation) is an American defense company headquartered in McLean, Virginia that provides scientific, engineering, systems integration, and technical services and solutions. SAIC works extensively with the United States Department of Defense, the United States Department of Homeland Security, and the United States Intelligence Community, including the National Security Agency, as well as other U.S. government civil agencies and selected commercial markets.

The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) transitioned a Remote Viewing Program to SAIC in 1991 and it was renamed Stargate Project.

In January 1999, new SAIC consultant Steven Hatfill and his collaborator, SAIC vice president Joseph Soukup, commissioned William C. Patrick (a retired leading figure in the old U.S. bioweapons program) to report on the possibilities of terrorist anthrax mailings in the United States.(There had been a spate of hoax anthrax mailings in the previous two years.) Barbara Hatch Rosenberg said that the report was commissioned "under a CIA contract to SAIC". However, SAIC said Hatfill and Soukup commissioned it internally—there was no outside client.

Patrick produced his 28-page report in February 1999. Some subsequently saw it as a "blueprint" for the 2001 anthrax attacks. The report suggested the maximum amount of anthrax powder—2.5 grams—that could be put in an envelope without producing a suspicious bulge. This was just a little more than the actual amounts—2 grams each—in the letters sent to Senators Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy. But the report also suggested that a terrorist might produce a spore concentration of 50 billion spores per gram. This was only one-twentieth of the actual concentration—1 trillion spores per gram—in the letters sent to the senators.[9]

In 2002, SAIC was chosen by the NSA to produce a technology demonstration platform for the agency's Trailblazer Project in a contract worth $280 million. Trailblazer is a "Digital Network Intelligence" system, intended to analyze data carried on computer networks. Project participants included Boeing, Computer Sciences Corporation, and Booz Allen Hamilton. SAIC had also participated in the concept definition phase of Trailblazer, beginning March 2001.[10] According to science news site PhysOrg.com , Trailblazer was a continuation of the earlier ThinThread program.[11] In 2005 NSA director Michael Hayden told a Senate hearing that the Trailblazer program was several hundred million dollars over budget and years behind schedule.[12]

In June 2001 the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) paid SAIC $122 million to create a Virtual Case File (VCF) software system to speed up the sharing of information among agents. But the FBI abandoned VCF when it failed to function adequately. Robert Mueller, FBI Director, testified to a congressional committee, "When SAIC delivered the first product in December 2003 we immediately identified a number of deficiencies – 17 at the outset. That soon cascaded to 50 or more and ultimately to 400 problems with that software ... We were indeed disappointed."[this quote needs a citation]

SAIC executive vice president Arnold L. Punaro claimed that the company had "fully conformed to the contract we have and gave the taxpayers real value for their money." He blamed the FBI for the initial problems, saying the agency had a parade of program managers and demanded too many design changes. He stated that during 15 months that SAIC worked on the program, 19 different government managers were involved and 36 contract modifications were ordered.[citation needed]

"There were an average of 1.3 changes every day from the FBI, for a total of 399 changes during the period," Punaro said.[19]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252105 Jan 24, 2013
In June 2001 the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) paid SAIC $122 million to create a Virtual Case File (VCF) software system to speed up the sharing of information among agents. But the FBI abandoned VCF when it failed to function adequately. Robert Mueller, FBI Director, testified to a congressional committee, "When SAIC delivered the first product in December 2003 we immediately identified a number of deficiencies – 17 at the outset. That soon cascaded to 50 or more and ultimately to 400 problems with that software ... We were indeed disappointed."[this quote needs a citation]

SAIC executive vice president Arnold L. Punaro claimed that the company had "fully conformed to the contract we have and gave the taxpayers real value for their money." He blamed the FBI for the initial problems, saying the agency had a parade of program managers and demanded too many design changes. He stated that during 15 months that SAIC worked on the program, 19 different government managers were involved and 36 contract modifications were ordered.[citation needed]

"There were an average of 1.3 changes every day from the FBI, for a total of 399 changes during the period," Punaro said.[19]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252106 Jan 24, 2013
SAIC (formerly Science Applications International Corporation) is an American defense company headquartered in McLean, Virginia that provides scientific, engineering, systems integration, and technical services and solutions. SAIC works extensively with the United States Department of Defense, the United States Department of Homeland Security, and the United States Intelligence Community, including the National Security Agency, as well as other U.S. government civil agencies and selected commercial markets.
The two new companies would consist of a services company earning approximately $4 billion a year and an IT company worth about $7 billion a year.[5]
[edit] ManagementOn November 3, 2003, Kenneth C. Dahlberg was named the CEO of SAIC, ending Beyster's 30+ years of leadership. In May 2005, under the new CEO, the company changed its external tagline from An Employee-Owned Company to From Science to Solutions, retaining the former for internal communications.
The company has had as part of its management, and on its Board of Directors, many well known ex-government personnel including Melvin Laird, Secretary of Defense in the Nixon administration; William Perry, Secretary of Defense for Bill Clinton; John M. Deutch, President Clinton's CIA Director; Admiral Bobby Ray Inman who served in various capacities in the NSA and CIA for the Ford, Carter and Reagan administrations; and David Kay who led the search for weapons of mass destruction for the U.N. following the 1991 Gulf War and for the Bush Administration following the 2003 Iraq invasion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC_ (company)
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252107 Jan 24, 2013
Brony

A name typically given to the male viewers/fans of the My Little Pony show or franchise. They typically do not give in to the hype that males aren't allowed to enjoy things that may be intended for females.

Other spellings: Bronie

Plural spellings: Bronies

Female 1: Have you seen the My Little Pony cartoon?
Female 2: Yes! It's so cute and awesome!
Male 1: I've seen it as well.
Female 1: You're the coolest brony ev
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252108 Jan 24, 2013
‘Q’ from ‘Star Trek’ explains ‘Brony’ phenomenon in song

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/01/22/q-from-...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252109 Jan 24, 2013
Adult male My Little Pony fans? Bronies are true rebels

There's no reason a quality cartoon about love and tolerance shouldn't inspire passion in men (Like MOOBS FONTAINE!)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/...
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252110 Jan 24, 2013
After the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center (WTC), a company called Stratesec (or Securacom) was responsible for the overall integration of the new security system designed by Kroll Asoociates. Stratesec had a small board of directors that included retired Air Force General James Abrahamson, Marvin Bush (the brother of George W. Bush) and Wirt Walker III, a cousin of the Bush brothers. Other directors included Charles Archer, former Assistant Director in charge of the FBI’s Criminal Justice Information Services Division, and Yousef Saud Al Sabah, a member of the Kuwaiti royal family.[1]

Yousef Saud Al Sabah was also chairman of the Kuwait-American Corporation (KuwAm), which between 1993 and 1999 held a controlling share of Stratesec. The other owners of Stratesec were Walker and an entity controlled by Walker and Al Sabah, called Special Situation Investment Holdings (SSIH).[2] SSIH was said to form a group with KuwAm, and the group owned several other companies, including Commander Aircraft and Aviation General. In any case, the Kuwaiti royal family can be said to have benefited from 9/11 due to “The War on Terror” that removed Saddam Hussein from power. Of course, that was the second consecutive US war that Kuwait benefited from, the first being the 1991 Gulf War led by President George H.W. Bush.

Stratesec director James Abrahamson was President of Hughes Aircraft from 1989 to 1992, when Prescott Bush Jr. was helping Hughes lobby Bush’s brother, the US President, to lift sanctions on the Chinese government. Abrahamson became a director of Stratesec in December 1997.[3] He also co-founded a company called Crescent Investment Management (Crescent) with the Pakistani-American, Mansoor Ijaz. Crescent’s board of advisors included James Woolsey, the CIA Director for President Clinton who became a PNAC signatory and Booz Allen Hamilton executive.[4]
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252111 Jan 24, 2013
Stratesec had contracts to provide security services for United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, where American Airlines Flight 77 took off on 9/11. Another client was Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL), where scientists were working on the development of nanothermite, a type of explosive material that has since been discovered in the WTC dust. During the time that Stratesec executive McDaniel worked for them, the Caryle Group began to add some very powerful people to their leadership group. One such figure was James Baker, who went to Princeton with Rumsfeld and Carlucci, and who was White House Chief of Staff, and Secretary of the Treasury, for Reagan. Baker was also George H.W. Bush’s campaign manager and Secretary of State, and Bush’s White House Chief of Staff again in his last government position. Baker became a partner at Carlyle just two weeks after the February 1993 bombing of the WTC.

Earlier in his career, Baker had worked in President Ford’s department of Commerce, along with WTC impact zone tenant Joseph Kasputys. And Baker was a longtime, close friend of Raymond Hill, an elite Texan who owned the mafia and CIA-connected Mainland Savings. American taxpayers shelled out approximately $500 million when Mainland failed in 1986. Investigators have since discovered that Mainland, like a number of other savings and loans that failed in the late 1980s, was a vehicle for CIA and mafia activities.[
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252112 Jan 24, 2013
Marvin Bush was a director of Stratesec from 1993 to 2000. It was during that time that Kroll and Stratesec planned and executed the extensive rebuilding of the security systems at the WTC complex. As his stint with Stratesec ended, Marvin Bush became a principal in the company HCC Insurance, one of the insurance carriers for the World Trade Center.

SAIC

Marvin Bush was the cofounder of Winston Partners in 1993, a company that benefited greatly from the War on Terror. In 2000, Winston Partners invested heavily in a defense contractor called AMSEC that was 55% owned by Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC). It has been noted that SAIC was not only a major contributor to the NIST WTC report, it was also a company that had expertise in nanothermites, explosive materials which were found in the WTC dust as mentioned earlier.[24]

Founded by a scientist from Los Alamos National Laboratory, SAIC had a long history at the WTC, having evaluated the basement levels of the buildings as a potential terrorist target in 1986.[25] Interestingly, the company was hired to investigate the 1993 bombing of the WTC, an event that was “remarkably like the one which” they had foreseen in 1986.[26] In fact, SAIC later boasted that —“After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, our blast analyses produced tangible results that helped identify those responsible.”[27]

After 9/11, SAIC supplied the largest contingent of non-governmental investigators to the WTC investigation conducted NIST. At the same time,“SAIC personnel were instrumental in pressing the case that weapons of mass destruction existed in Iraq under Saddam Hussein, and that war was the only way to get rid of them.”[28]

SAIC was also a pioneer in the intelligence contracting business, as a founding member of the Security Affairs Support Association in 1979, along with companies like TRW, Booz Allen Hamilton, Lockheed and Hughes Aircraft. A special taskforce of the Defense Science Board, which was led in 1993 by BDM’s Philip Odeen, recommended a vast increase in the outsourcing of intelligence, which all these companies ended up benefiting from greatly.

Today a majority of government intelligence work is outsourced, and SAIC is known first and foremost as an intelligence contractor. SAIC sells expertise about weapons, about homeland security, about surveillance, about computer systems, about “information dominance” and “information warfare,” and has been awarded more individual government contracts than any other private company in America. In fact, the company was paid huge sums to rebuild the NSA and FBI systems that supposedly failed before 9/11
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252113 Jan 24, 2013
Interview With A 'Bronie'

After last week's controversial segment on guys who like My Little Pony, we talk to one of the guys who likes My Little Pony.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#252114 Jan 24, 2013
SAGAL: And the bronie community reacted with righteous fury. So to help explain their point of view, we have invited on a former WAIT WAIT intern and self-professed bronie, Ted Anderson. Ted, great to talk to you again. How are you?

Mr. TED ANDERSON (Bronie): I'm good, hello.

SAGAL: Now Ted, you are a bronie?

Mr. ANDERSON: I am, I'm a bronie. I'll admit it.

SAGAL: And people say that we mischaracterized bronies. Are you in fact unemployed and living in your mother's basement?

Mr. ANDERSON: Yeah, but don't blame that on the ponies.

SAGAL: Okay.
rider

Gwinn, MI

#252115 Jan 24, 2013
When we examine who had the greatest motive for the attacks of 9/11, we need to look at who most benefited from those events. Certainly SAIC and other companies like Maurice Greenberg’s American International Group (AIG) are among those who profited the most after 9/11. But The Carlyle Group and oil companies like Halliburton led the field in terms of profiting from 9/11.

Dick Cheney was hired as CEO of Halliburton in 1995, despite having no practical business leadership experience. He quickly went on to add new directors that shared his political convictions, including Lawrence Eagleburger, the former Secretary of State under the first President George Bush. Eagleburger also served as a director of Kissinger Associates, and on the board of Dresser Industries, where George H.W. Bush got his start. Others Cheney added to his team included Ray Hunt, of Dallas-based Hunt Oil, a longtime supporter of the Bush clan.

Cheney named Charles DiBona as one of his first appointees to the board of Halliburton. DiBona had been the Deputy Director of the White House Policy Office and Special Assistant to President Nixon in the early 1970s. DiBona was also an associate of WTC south tower impact zone tenant Joseph Kasputys, at the Logistics Management Institute, and DiBona and Kasputys had previously worked together during the Arab Oil Embargo as representatives of the emerging US Department of Energy (DOE). In fact, DiBona was one of the first US “Energy Czars.”

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