Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

UidiotRaceMAkeWo rldPeople

United States

#251462 Jan 10, 2013
Many other 9/11 Commissioners and congressmen have called for a new investigation, including:

For example:
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version ... We didn’t have access ....” He also says that it might take “a permanent 9/11 commission” to end the remaining mysteries of September 11
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue
9/11 Commissioner Max Cleland resigned from the Commission, stating:“It is a national scandal”; “This investigation is now compromised”; and “One of these days we will have to get the full story because the 9-11 issue is so important to America. But this White House wants to cover it up”
Senator Mike Gravel – who was the main congressman responsible for making the Pentagon Papers public – calls for a new 9/11 investigation
Congressman Ron Paul calls for a new 9/11 investigation and states that “we see the [9/11] investigations that have been done so far as more or less cover-up and no real explanation of what went on”
Congressman Dennis Kucinich wants a new investigation
Congressman Jason Chafetz says that we need to be vigilant and continue to investigate 9/11

Senator Lincoln Chaffee endorses a new investigation
Congressman Dan Hamburg wants a new investigation

In addition,many high-level military and intelligence officials have called for a new investigation, including:
Daniel Ellsberg has called for a new investigation
U.S. General, Commanding General of U.S. European Command and Supreme Allied Commander Europe, decorated with the Bronze Star, Silver Star, and Purple Heart (General Wesley Clark) said “We’ve never finished the investigation of 9/11 and whether the administration actually misused the intelligence information it had. The evidence seems pretty clear to me. I’ve seen that for a long time”
Former Deputy Secretary for Intelligence and Warning under Nixon, Ford, and Carter (Morton Goulder), former Deputy Director to the White House Task Force on Terrorism (Edward L. Peck), and former US Department of State Foreign Service Officer (J. Michael Springmann), as well as a who’s who of liberals and independents) jointly call for a new investigation into 9/11

And numerous high-level judges, legal professors and trial lawyers call for a new investigation. See this and this.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#251464 Jan 10, 2013
UidiotRaceMAkeWorldPeople wrote:
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, and that the 9/11 debate should continue
FULL QUOTE

Hamilton: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history.
We wrote it under a lot of time pressure, and we sorted through the evidence as best we could.

Now, it would be really rather remarkable if we got everything right. So far, of the things that have been brought up challenging the report, to my knowledge, we have more credibility than the challenger. But I would not for a moment want to suggest that that’s always true, either in the past or in the future. People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.

So I don’t automatically reject all the evidence you cite. It may be we missed it, it may be we ignored it when we shouldn’t have - I don’t think we did, but it's possible.

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Hamilton: The 9/11 Commission was created by statute. We had two responsibilities - first, tell the story of 9/11; I think we've done that reasonably well. We worked very hard at it; I don’t know that we’ve told the definitive story of 9/11, but surely anybody in the future who tackles that job will begin with the 9/11 Commission Report. I think we’ve been reasonably successful in telling the story. It became a best seller in this country and people showed a lot of interest in it.

http://web.archive.org/web/20070108233707/htt...

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#251465 Jan 10, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Actually the odds of three are the same as the odds of one and since the event was not random with equal probabilities of different outcomes odds don't even come into play.
See what a GED can buy you, the gift of logic!
You didn't pay enough for yours. No logic came with it!
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Jet Fuel ha ha hah ha ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As Government Logic Huh eh !

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#251466 Jan 10, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
Wow! Scrolled right past most of that nonsense.
Just like NIST, you ignore what you don't want to explain.

Except you are even more dishonest then they are, former fake believer who had to be enlightened by a Charlie Sheen troll.

Here's more for you to ignore.

http://www.informationliberation.com/...

Your lack of logic is impressive.

Insults Are Easier
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWO RLDPEACE

United States

#251467 Jan 10, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
FULL QUOTE
Hamilton: I don’t believe for a minute that we got everything right. We wrote a first draft of history.
We wrote it under a lot of time pressure, and we sorted through the evidence as best we could.
Now, it would be really rather remarkable if we got everything right. So far, of the things that have been brought up challenging the report, to my knowledge, we have more credibility than the challenger. But I would not for a moment want to suggest that that’s always true, either in the past or in the future. People will be investigating 9/11 for the next hundred years in this country, and they’re going to find out some things that we missed here.
So I don’t automatically reject all the evidence you cite. It may be we missed it, it may be we ignored it when we shouldn’t have - I don’t think we did, but it's possible.
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Hamilton: The 9/11 Commission was created by statute. We had two responsibilities - first, tell the story of 9/11; I think we've done that reasonably well. We worked very hard at it; I don’t know that we’ve told the definitive story of 9/11, but surely anybody in the future who tackles that job will begin with the 9/11 Commission Report. I think we’ve been reasonably successful in telling the story. It became a best seller in this country and people showed a lot of interest in it.
http://web.archive.org/web/20070108233707/htt...
www.911warcrimestribunal.org

9/11 War Crimes Tribunal

The 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal is a Tribunal of Conscience whose mission is the investigation, prosecution, trial, conviction and sentencing of key individuals participating in a common plan and conspiracy to execute a false flag operation on September 11, 2001, disguised as a “terrorist attack” on the U.S. mainland, with the real objectives of launching a war of aggression and domestic police state worldwide. Judge Webre is also a Judge on the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal that on Nov. 22, 2011 found George W. Bush and Tony Blair guilty of crimes against peace for launching the illegal 2003 invasion of Iraq using false and deceptive “Weapons of Mass Destruction” grounds.

www.911warcrimestribunal.org

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#251468 Jan 10, 2013
UIDIOTRACEMAKEWORLDPEACE wrote:
<quoted text> www.911warcrimestribunal.org
9/11 War Crimes Tribunal
The 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal is a Tribunal of Conscience whose mission is the investigation, prosecution, trial, conviction and sentencing of key individuals participating in a common plan and conspiracy to execute a false flag operation on September 11, 2001, disguised as a “terrorist attack” on the U.S. mainland, with the real objectives of launching a war of aggression and domestic police state worldwide. Judge Webre is also a Judge on the Kuala Lumpur War Crimes Tribunal that on Nov. 22, 2011 found George W. Bush and Tony Blair guilty of crimes against peace for launching the illegal 2003 invasion of Iraq using false and deceptive “Weapons of Mass Destruction” grounds.
www.911warcrimestribunal.org
More stupid stuff. Totally unfounded paranoiac delusion.
UidtiotRaceMakew orldpeace

United States

#251469 Jan 10, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
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More stupid stuff. Totally unfounded paranoiac delusion.
How is delusional that evil Bush &co tried for War crimes?

Are you supporting a mad man?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#251470 Jan 10, 2013
UidtiotRaceMakeworldpeace wrote:
<quoted text>How is delusional that evil Bush &co tried for War crimes?
Are you supporting a mad man?
GW Bush is wasted's favorite president. Shrub comes from a long line of crooked international bankers, industrialists, and Nazi and Fascist sympathizers who like to work both sides of many of the un-necessary world wars to make money.
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Wasted admires him no end. And believes him too!
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh eh !

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#251471 Jan 10, 2013
can you say you're a flaming homosexual
Timesten wrote:

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#251472 Jan 10, 2013
YellowPissreality wrote:
can you say you're a flaming homosexual<quoted text>
Yes I can say you're a flaming homosexual.
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How's the golden showers going for ya pissface?
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That's A Good Little Homo Huh eh !
UidtiotRaceMakew orldpeace

United States

#251473 Jan 10, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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GW Bush is wasted's favorite president. Shrub comes from a long line of crooked international bankers, industrialists, and Nazi and Fascist sympathizers who like to work both sides of many of the un-necessary world wars to make money.
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Wasted admires him no end. And believes him too!
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh eh !
or maybe Wasted come from long line of Soldier of fortune, and /or sycophants working for Us military contractors, subservient to evil uglords Bush. Why most of American can not see war criminals is at our helm, the Prsidents can be dictators even in a quasi-democracy?

WBHAHHAHAHAHAHHA

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#251474 Jan 11, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
http://youtu.be/jNoZKoQz8fs
Insults Are Easier
Nice find IAE....
My take...
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
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Join if you'd like....no trolls no shills...
A lot of good people with their insights
http://fightingforliberty.ning.com/

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#251475 Jan 11, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
GW Bush is wasted's favorite president. Shrub comes from a long line of crooked international bankers, industrialists, and Nazi and Fascist sympathizers who like to work both sides of many of the un-necessary world wars to make money.
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Wasted admires him no end. And believes him too!
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha
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That's A Good One Huh eh !
Agreed Z

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251478 Jan 11, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
http://youtu.be/jNoZKoQz8fs

Insults Are Easier
An over hour long movie of twoofers debunking pods and no planer garbage with no time stamp.

As always, your pure unadulterated laziness and mindlessness is all you've proven with your post.

"Reality: As I’ve explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour’s flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation’s capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757′s autopilot. Striking a stationary object — even a large one like the Pentagon — at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon’s lawn."

http://www.salon.com/2006/05/19/askthepilot18...

Pilots I've shown twoofer videos to reflect the same opinion.

Steel plating.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251479 Jan 11, 2013
onemale wrote:
I cannot argue with 1500+ architects, engineers, physicists, scientists and other professionals. Most of these have from 20 to 30+ years experience.
All they want is an independent investigation.

That is the KEY here because IF an independent investigation proves them wrong, they would look like idiots. They have to be sure they are 100% correct. If they were proven wrong who would hire them? Their careers would be ruined.
Therein lies your problem.

If an independent panel of relevant experts ever were assembled to hear both sides, twoof would be laughed out of the building.

A$E4twoofyness.com has, at best, 2-3 experts with relevant tall building knowledge and none of them have ever come up with anything aside from parroting what non-engineers blather.

To paraphrase a post I read recently; so these people have evidence of inside job which would earn them a Pulitzer Prize and rather than expending their energy exposing their alleged evidence to engineers and architects of the world, they chose to preach to the twoofer choir and linger in the bowels of the interwebs.

Uh huh.

But you do chose to ignore that many relevant professionals who have written the reports and a plethora of papers about the collapses.

Twoof: facts don't matter, it's all about the conclusion.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251480 Jan 11, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Bazant Quote:
“Progressive collapse is a failure mode of great concern for tall buildings, and is also typical of controlled building demolitions. The most infamous paradigm is the collapse of the World Trade Center towers.”
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Although in the entire history of tall buildings, progressive collapse as a mode of failure has never before happened, on 9/11/2001, within hours of each other 3 of New York City’s tallest and largest steel framed buildings collapsed all the way to the ground at near free fall acceleration with only fire in the upper floors as the primary cause.
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Is this an incredible coincidence? The odds of this happening are astronomical at best.
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It was rather like three ships the size of the Titanic all sinking on their maiden voyages within hours of each other on the same day from hitting the same iceberg!
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Once collapse was initiated, there was no "dynamic" impact and cumulative weight loading. Just the opposite in fact. Where is the piledriver?
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So as the progression continued, at near total free fall acceleration speed in air,(straight down along the line of supposed maximum resistance), the ejecting fountain-like debris plume chasing those outer perimeter steel frame pieces all the way to the ground, to within a mere second or two, the total load became increasingly weight-LESS!
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(somehow the resistance of the bottom two thirds of all three of the buildings had magically disappeared)
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Relative to, an increasingly stronger steel core structure + perimeter support, that had no fires burning anywhere near and since everything at this lower level was tapered ever thicker toward the bottom, to handle the entire load of the rest of the building.
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Think about that, and then explain continual momentum at about free fall acceleration in air...? You cannot.
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Not without altering the laws of physics, and nullifying the work of Newton and Galileo in the process.
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That is who Bazant is up against the moment he tries to explain the actual collapse itself.
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There are no experts on the WTC collapse. For the simple fact that the crime scene was not forensically studied. Instead as soon as it was determined there would be no more survivors it was immediately placed off-limits to forensic investigative personnel, cleanup started and thousands of tons of steel debris was taken away and sold at under-market rates.
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troll on shills
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That’s a good one huh eh !
If course ignoring all that's been discussed to date is a pre-requisite for taking your idiotic cut and paste post seriously...oh and no knowledge of science helps too!

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251481 Jan 11, 2013
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Scientific illiteracy begins with people unable to see the official NIST investigation for what it is, a biased circular argument of no explosives were found, even though no explosives were looked for.

The scientific method was developed to test conclusions through a verifiable and repeatable process of observation, hypothesis, experiment, and analysis.

NIST version of the scientific method was ignore observation, use a predetermined biased hypothesis, rig the experiment by using computer modeling to show what their physical recreation could not, then conclude their biased hypothesis was accurate all along.

Biased science isn't science, it's propaganda.

Heres a good breakdown of how insults and ridicule take the place of scientific discourse for people who champion the official lie.

http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/mackey/in...

Now scientific illiterates will tell ya they visually inspected it, before it was shipped off to China... Visual inspection is not verifiable, nor is it peer reviewable, nor is it science.

But NIST said they did? What else are they gonna say?

NIST investigators have been shown to be dishonest, much like the Topix trolls you see on this thread.

Eyes Wide Shut
http://youtu.be/fs_ogSbQFbM

This is why on this thread and generally,

Insults Are Easier
You've proven your scientific illiteracy over and over again.

Free fall speed?

Steel plating?

Oh Ignorance is Bliss 20 pilots!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251482 Jan 11, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>So where's Gordo's paper?
He's mindlessly cutting and pasting up to it...again.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251483 Jan 11, 2013
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>Crush up? LMAO!!
Well the path of least resistance was up...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#251484 Jan 11, 2013
WasteWater wrote:
Wow! Scrolled right past most of that nonsense.
It's just a mindless repeat of what he couldn't support or defend last month.

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