Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#250539 Dec 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>They appear to be a club of paranoid snivelers.
Ok, are you a psychologist too?

Well, thanks for proving

Insults Are Easier

Since: Aug 11

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#250541 Dec 29, 2012
Why read a reasonable explanation about WTC7 and learn something rather than parroting conspiracy propaganda?

Silverstein's Quote:

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander

-Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business

Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:

"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."

He could be lying, right? But here is the corroborating evidence...

"They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there - this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down." - Richard Banaciski

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.

But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.

So we gathered up rollups and most of us had masks at that time. We headed toward 7. And just around we were about a hundred yards away and Butch Brandies came running up. He said forget it, nobody’s going into 7, there’s creaking, there are noises coming out of there, so we just stopped. And probably about 10 minutes after that, Visconti, he was on West Street, and I guess he had another report of further damage either in some basements and things like that, so Visconti said nobody goes into 7, so that was the final thing and that was abandoned.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#250542 Dec 29, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>Here is what a transit looks like fool. Firefighters use it to measure how much a wall or building moves over a period of time to determine if collapse is likely.

http://expresstools.com/DWH-44-8834-1-Transit...
I know what surveyor equipment looks like. Drive by them all the time.

You'll just cackle on and on, missing important points, to focus on irrelevancy to try and prove your not a brainwashed shill/troll/liar.

Have a great Saturday, hope its as entertaining as your everyday you troll here.

And chant to yourself, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist.

Then chant, Larry Silverstein did not orchestrate 9/11, so therefore, the official story is the only story that makes sense, over and over.

Then chant, I am not brainwashed, etc, etc...

Insults Are Easier

Since: May 10

YOUR MOM'S HOUSE

#250543 Dec 29, 2012
who are you kiddng, you don't know shit about physics Retardo

and an oncologist is a professional with years of education to undertsand cancer the same way a structural engineer has years of education to undertsand how buildings stand and fall

Smarten up Buffoon
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know how bad your analogy is?
All people live in a physical world, we simply live in physics. All people have some understanding of physics because its all around us.
Few people understand cancer, because its not part of their daily lives.
So keep pissing on reality, coward.
Insults Are Easier

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#250544 Dec 29, 2012
'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.'

What makes more sense,..... "we've had such a terrible loss of the life maybe the smartest thing to do is to blow up my building"

or

"we've had such a terrible loss of the life maybe the smartest thing to do is to pull out the firefighters"

What makes sense and what is ridiculous !?!?!?!

and since when does the FDNY blow up buildings !?!?!?!?
and why would they be involved in a massive insurance fraud scheme when they lost hundreds of people at the WTC !?!?!?!?
WasteWater wrote:
Why read a reasonable explanation about WTC7 and learn something rather than parroting conspiracy propaganda?
Silverstein's Quote:
"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know,'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."
-Fact which is undisputed by either side, he was talking to the fire commander
-Fact which is undisputed by either side, both are not in the demolition business
Silverstein's spokesperson, Mr. McQuillan, later clarified:
"In the afternoon of September 11, Mr. Silverstein spoke to the Fire Department Commander on site at Seven World Trade Center. The Commander told Mr. Silverstein that there were several firefighters in the building working to contain the fires. Mr. Silverstein expressed his view that the most important thing was to protect the safety of those firefighters, including, if necessary, to have them withdraw from the building."
He could be lying, right? But here is the corroborating evidence...
"They told us to get out of there because they were worried about 7 World Trade Center, which is right behind it, coming down. We were up on the upper floors of the Verizon building looking at it. You could just see the whole bottom corner of the building was gone. We could look right out over to where the Trade Centers were because we were that high up. Looking over the smaller buildings. I just remember it was tremendous, tremendous fires going on. Finally they pulled us out. They said all right, get out of that building because that 7, they were really worried about. They pulled us out of there and then they regrouped everybody on Vesey Street, between the water and West Street. They put everybody back in there. Finally it did come down. From there - this is much later on in the day, because every day we were so worried about that building we didn't really want to get people close. They were trying to limit the amount of people that were in there. Finally it did come down." - Richard Banaciski
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm
"A little north of Vesey I said, we’ll go down, let’s see what’s going on. A couple of the other officers and I were going to see what was going on. We were told to go to Greenwich and Vesey and see what’s going on. So we go there and on the north and east side of 7 it didn’t look like there was any damage at all, but then you looked on the south side of 7 there had to be a hole 20 stories tall in the building, with fire on several floors. Debris was falling down on the building and it didn’t look good.
But they had a hoseline operating. Like I said, it was hitting the sidewalk across the street, but eventually they pulled back too. Then we received an order from Fellini, we’re going to make a move on 7. That was the first time really my stomach tightened up because the building didn’t look good. I was figuring probably the standpipe systems were shot. There was no hydrant pressure. I wasn’t really keen on the idea. Then this other officer I’m standing next to said, that building doesn’t look straight. So I’m standing there. I’m looking at the building. It didn’t look right, but, well, we’ll go in, we’ll see.
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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#250545 Dec 29, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what surveyor equipment looks like. Drive by them all the time.
You'll just cackle on and on, missing important points, to focus on irrelevancy to try and prove your not a brainwashed shill/troll/liar.
Have a great Saturday, hope its as entertaining as your everyday you troll here.
And chant to yourself, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist.
Then chant, Larry Silverstein did not orchestrate 9/11, so therefore, the official story is the only story that makes sense, over and over.
Then chant, I am not brainwashed, etc, etc...
Insults Are Easier
Nice rant.

U MAD bro?

BTW. It has nothing to do with my previous post. How come you guys can't address any of the real issues? You just keep babbling about paranoid nonsense.

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#250546 Dec 29, 2012
Yes, she is blond, six foot tall, Scandinavian, and incredibly beautiful ..... but please feel free to live vicariously through me

Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't try to pawn your blond girlfriend off she's yours for life.
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTAwMFgxMDAw/ $(KGrHqJHJCIE7y8Wf,coBPFer0(2w !~~60_35.JPG

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#250547 Dec 29, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
I know what surveyor equipment looks like. Drive by them all the time.
You'll just cackle on and on, missing important points, to focus on irrelevancy to try and prove your not a brainwashed shill/troll/liar.
Have a great Saturday, hope its as entertaining as your everyday you troll here.
And chant to yourself, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist, false flags don't exist.
Then chant, Larry Silverstein did not orchestrate 9/11, so therefore, the official story is the only story that makes sense, over and over.
Then chant, I am not brainwashed, etc, etc...
Insults Are Easier
Your guys posted the link to the Saudi who was ordered to give visas to the hijackers. No hijacker huh? False flags?

Remote controlled planes?

See how your stuff doesn't add up? Why issue visas to non-existent hijackers? Duh?

BTW, I posted pictures of the flight 77 wreakage at the Pentagon.

Missle huh? Twenty pilots are wrong dude.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#250549 Dec 29, 2012

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#250550 Dec 29, 2012
Side-by-side video of the controlled demolition of building 7 on 9/11 2001, compared to another controlled demolition.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#250551 Dec 29, 2012
The big bang theory....
9/11 - WTC 7 Explosion on Audio (heard by firemen)

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This video was received from NIST under the Freedom of Information Act.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#250552 Dec 29, 2012
Funny how you don't hear any explosions when WTC7 goes down
Funny how no siesmographs picked up exlosions just before WTC 7 collapsed
Timesten wrote:
Side-by-side video of the controlled demolition of building 7 on 9/11 2001, compared to another controlled demolition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =73qK4j32iuoXX
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#250553 Dec 29, 2012
you are a very good Twoofer Sheep
Timesten wrote:
DMB

Huntsville, AL

#250555 Dec 29, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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I heard that big companies like Archer Daniels Midland and Monsanto were buying (stealing) upper Sahara farmland to grow their frankenfood to feed the one world. They would need some good geo-engineering to provide water. Even frankenfood needs some water. And they also needed a deep water port for shipping. So the UN et al got together and got rid of Gaddafi, stole Libya's gold, set up a new Rothschild Central Bank, and secured a port at Benghazi.
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The US's 1930's depression was orchestrated by the Fed just for fun and help set the stage for an economic comeback and usher in WWII.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ah ah
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That's A Good One Huh eh !
I would respond to your ideas but you'd obviously just call me names and insinuate I have a less than adequate intelligence, so I will simply say this. You are a very, very bad troll and a very, very stupid person.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

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#250556 Dec 30, 2012
Your guys?

Look dummy, I don't believe every conspiracy theory put forth by everyone. You're the one who combines them all, to then fraudulently claim each person that believes 9/11 was orchestrated by elements within the government must also believe them all. You do this to paint each person as looney tunes, because you have to label your opponents that way to scare off others to believe as you do, or to convince yourself.

Thats your dishonesty, or your lack of logic at work, or both.

Each of us has different ideas about how, and even why this diabolical attack on our citizens and our freedoms happened. But all of us agree that the official story is a fraud, and that is what links all truthers together. I hate labels but we are truthers because people like you are liars.

I never claimed Larry Silverstein orchestrated 9/11, made NORAD stand down, arranged a missile to strike the Pentagon, or covered it up. You did, so you could create a strawman to easily shoot down. I know of no one who believes that scenario... Just you, the dishonest former conspiracy believer who enjoys lying to people.

If someone posts a link about Visa's being issued to Middle Easterners, you illogically conclude they had to be hijackers, who then must have crashed planes into all the targets exactly as the official fairy tale claimed.

Do you really think the conspiracy would not include Visas to those it intended to blame? And would that scenario would not include government bureaucracy incompetence as a means of a believable story to the general public? Most people are conditioned to believe incompetence rules out government conspiracy, that's how they are able to conspire, because regardless of the facts, those people never get past that notion.

A reasonable person could conclude that Visas were issued, and still the aircraft were remote controlled into target, with or without those people aboard.

But reason has an issue with you, doesn't it?

And of course I'm not mad, bro. In fact, ignorance never makes me mad, it only makes me sad.

Im sad that nobody has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, and you represent the American public. Until this changes, our nation will continue to slide downhill into the dustbin of history.

All of my questions are rhetorical, so don't bother wasting my time with your twisted, illogical responses.

Insults Are Easier

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#250558 Dec 30, 2012
when will Twoof create a cohesive narrative into what they think happened on 9/11, all we ever get are disjointed theories that contradict each other !!!?!??!?!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Your guys?
Look dummy, I don't believe every conspiracy theory put forth by everyone. You're the one who combines them all, to then fraudulently claim each person that believes 9/11 was orchestrated by elements within the government must also believe them all. You do this to paint each person as looney tunes, because you have to label your opponents that way to scare off others to believe as you do, or to convince yourself.
Thats your dishonesty, or your lack of logic at work, or both.
Each of us has different ideas about how, and even why this diabolical attack on our citizens and our freedoms happened. But all of us agree that the official story is a fraud, and that is what links all truthers together. I hate labels but we are truthers because people like you are liars.
I never claimed Larry Silverstein orchestrated 9/11, made NORAD stand down, arranged a missile to strike the Pentagon, or covered it up. You did, so you could create a strawman to easily shoot down. I know of no one who believes that scenario... Just you, the dishonest former conspiracy believer who enjoys lying to people.
If someone posts a link about Visa's being issued to Middle Easterners, you illogically conclude they had to be hijackers, who then must have crashed planes into all the targets exactly as the official fairy tale claimed.
Do you really think the conspiracy would not include Visas to those it intended to blame? And would that scenario would not include government bureaucracy incompetence as a means of a believable story to the general public? Most people are conditioned to believe incompetence rules out government conspiracy, that's how they are able to conspire, because regardless of the facts, those people never get past that notion.
A reasonable person could conclude that Visas were issued, and still the aircraft were remote controlled into target, with or without those people aboard.
But reason has an issue with you, doesn't it?
And of course I'm not mad, bro. In fact, ignorance never makes me mad, it only makes me sad.
Im sad that nobody has ever gone broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public, and you represent the American public. Until this changes, our nation will continue to slide downhill into the dustbin of history.
All of my questions are rhetorical, so don't bother wasting my time with your twisted, illogical responses.
Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#250560 Dec 30, 2012
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>when will Twoof create a cohesive narrative into what they think happened on 9/11, all we ever get are disjointed theories that contradict each other !!!?!??!?!
I suppose truth will create a complete narrative when the crime scene is returned from the scrapyards of China and can be analyzed by independent scientists not intent on covering up.

Then we can just create a computer simulation of drone missile painted in AA colors striking the Pentagon that also shows witnesses being coerced and evidence being planted.

After that we can arrest all of the Bilderberg hosts over the last 40 years and make them confess to the crimes they perpetrate on the governments and public people of the world.

Just to make a complete narrative and connect all the dots, so unthinking brainwashed people without logic themselves can have one to hold on to.

Insults Are Easier
JoshBoss

Truro, Canada

#250561 Dec 30, 2012
You people do know that this forum is crawling with shills right. Shills are very real, I've seen them all over youtube. They job is to create doubt and take the conversation on these useless tangents. Many FBI agents have come out about these activities. The Canandian government was caught trolling political forums a few years ago also. They are ALL over the internet. I mean, if these crazy fucks will blow up 3 skyscrapers, infiltrate the media, and take over the government, don't you think they'll try and control public opinion on the internet too
Klink

Columbus, OH

#250564 Dec 30, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
Why read a reasonable explanation about WTC7 and learn something rather than parroting conspiracy propaganda?
Silverstein's Quote:
<SNIP>

The COINTELPRO

Silverstein was leased the towers just prior to the 9/11 event as the fallguy. The billionaire insider was likely in on it and has been in no trouble for his part. He was put on PBS where he famously said "pull it" for the alternative media spin ran by the feds who did 9/11 who then blame "israel".

Nelson Rockefeller ordered the towers built when he was NY governor. Nelson went on to be VP under Gerald Ford. The twin towers were even nicknamed after the Rockefeller brothers: Nelson and David.
www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/...

Same with the supposed "dancing israelis". This is just federal created disinfo "dancing FBI". We know who did 9/11: Washington 100%, not Israel or any Jewish conspiracy.
Klink

Columbus, OH

#250565 Dec 30, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
I posted pictures of the flight 77 wreakage at the Pentagon.
Missle huh? Twenty pilots are wrong dude.

The only pics at the Pentagon I've seen were not of any jumbo jet, planted after the fact, not at the Pentagon at all or photoshopped. The pics of the actual Pentagon itself are not consistent with a plane crash.

www.liveleak
.com/view?i=b66_1311200020

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