Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

[Say the Truth]

Insults Are Easier wrote:

Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.
While the power structure, NIST, the media, and internet trolls, shills, and crazies (and Say The Truth, that cute little turrets syndrome bugger), all try to tell you it was obviously inevitable the moment the explosions hit the WTC.
They will tell you NIST and every government agency was right to never check for explosives or incendiaries, because the fire was obviously too intense.
They will say the witness testimony from that day is just in the heads of twoofers (a word they use because they are incapable of saying truth).
Canadians will try to sell you some algebra, bridges and boat shops, to convince you that the collapse was just to obvious to need to thoroughly investigate.
All because they know more then those poor untrained firefighters did on 9/11.
Then a jackass will ask you if not at the Pentagon, then where is it? Concluding in his fragile, eggshell mind, it must therefor reside in the Pentagon.
A lack of logic and a true waste of water.
Wheres the Wall Street bankers at who love saying torture doesn't compel witnesses to change their testimony? While endlessly repeating their leagle opinions!?!?!?!?
Did NFL find his real father yet?
And will the Charlie Sheen troll ever find a job? Kinko's needs a person with his talents, but can he ever lose enough weight to fit through the door?
Find out this and much more, on tomorrows next episode of Topix, Was 9/11 A Conspiracy?
And crystal meth must be a helluva drug.
Insults Are Easier

"turrets"

LMFAO@your STUPIDITY!!!

[rider]

ay, October 23 2012 - In the Media

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson set for 9/11 'truther' film September Morn

Film's advance publicity says:'We the people demand an independent investigation into the tragic events of 9/11'

October 17, 2012
by Rory Carroll
Guardian.co.uk

Film's advance publicity says:'We the people demand an independent investigation into the tragic events of 9/11'

Hollywood is to court controversy with a film that will challenge the official version of the events of 9/11, a previously taboo topic for the industry mainstream. Martin Sheen, Woody Harrelson and Ed Asner, who have all supported conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks, have signed up to the movie, which is entitled September Morn.

Styling itself as a drama in the tradition of Twelve Angry Men, the film's advance publicity note hints at a cover-up, saying: "We the people demand that the government revisit and initiates a thorough and independent investigation to the tragic events of 911."

Details of the film, which is to be directed by BJ Davis and written by Howard Cohen, are expected to be revealed at an American Film Market conference in Los Angeles next week, Deadline.com reported.

[rider]

Jesse Ventura Live on Piers Morgan: "Every war fought starts with a false-flag operation."

[rider]

Breaking News! "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" has, for the last ten days, been the FIRST most watched and FIRST most shared video on the national PBS website — a surprise to us all! Please use this opportunity to suggest to your friends that they watch this excellent film at http://video.pbs.org/ . PBS lends great credibility to all of our work, so now is the time to spread the word!

Thanks to you all!

The Colorado 9/11 Visibility Team

Program for September

Colorado 9/11 Visibility educates the public about information which clearly shows that we have been lied to about what happened on September 11, 2001. In doing so, we understand that there is a context which allows this kind of atrocity to occur. This month we are pleased to show "The Crisis of Civilization," which explores this bigger picture.

Video: The Crisis of Civilization (77 minutes)
What type of societal system actually requires “terrorists,” state-sponsored false flag operations and other deceptions, a controlled media and electoral process, the gutting of our civil liberties, environmental degradation, classism (dispossession of the majority and great privilege for the very few), economic and political instability, and yes, even war?...

[Porkpie Hat]

Insults Are Easier wrote:

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You never answered my question Charlie.
Why did the firefighters not realize that the WTC was going to collapse, since the event made it so obvious that NIST failed to check for explosives and accelerants?
Insults Are Easier

The question has been answered...and honestly, you won't accept any answer unless it supports your delusional fantasy.

NIST indirectly tested for explosives through visual examination and through the positive material identification testing done on WTC steel.

No signs of explosives were found rendering the need to test for explosives moot.

Oh but you continue repeating and re-repeating your silly little twoofer approved meme...it's all you have.

[Porkpie Hat]

WasteWater wrote:

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I know what you mean. Firefighters I know say the same thing. Building fires are a bitch and they get really hot due to drafting.

I still say it would hilarious to get a group of twoofers and a group of us together in front of a panel of relevant experts and have each side present their POV.

The laughter when guys like elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots and Ignorance is Bliss open their mouths and start spewing their preferred idiocy would be deafening!

[Porkpie Hat]

Insults Are Easier wrote:

Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.

Support the statement claiming, "due to intense heat"...GO!

Steel plating.

BTW, still waiting for you to present reference material that shows plated steel melts at lower temperatures that non-plated steel.

Or will we just leave that lie hanging in the wind like your claim of a plethora of articles metioning plated steel melting in fires?

[Porkpie Hat]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
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Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
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Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
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Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
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Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
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The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
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(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
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Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
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That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
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For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
.
Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
.
In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
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http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !

citizeninvestigationteam.com

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots!

[Porkpie Hat]

Say the Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
"turrets"
LMFAO@your STUPIDITY!!!

Proving, once again, twoofers just can't get anything right!

[Charlie Sheen]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.

Please list them all instead of making a generalized statement, I BET YOU CANT!

[Charlie Sheen]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.

FALSE, All right here.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/p...

[Charlie Sheen]

Say the Truth wrote:

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"x3 is virtually impossible"
YOU FAILED STATS 101 AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY.

You spotted that too, LOL, they were three separate physical incidents, what happens in one in no way changes the odds of the other two.

As if the statement had any validity to start with.

[Buck Farrack]

Insults Are Easier wrote:

Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.
While the power structure, NIST, the media, and internet trolls, shills, and crazies (and Say The Truth, that cute little turrets syndrome bugger), all try to tell you it was obviously inevitable the moment the explosions hit the WTC.
They will tell you NIST and every government agency was right to never check for explosives or incendiaries, because the fire was obviously too intense.
They will say the witness testimony from that day is just in the heads of twoofers (a word they use because they are incapable of saying truth).
Canadians will try to sell you some algebra, bridges and boat shops, to convince you that the collapse was just to obvious to need to thoroughly investigate.
All because they know more then those poor untrained firefighters did on 9/11.
Then a jackass will ask you if not at the Pentagon, then where is it? Concluding in his fragile, eggshell mind, it must therefor reside in the Pentagon.
A lack of logic and a true waste of water.
Wheres the Wall Street bankers at who love saying torture doesn't compel witnesses to change their testimony? While endlessly repeating their leagle opinions!?!?!?!?
Did NFL find his real father yet?
And will the Charlie Sheen troll ever find a job? Kinko's needs a person with his talents, but can he ever lose enough weight to fit through the door?
Find out this and much more, on tomorrows next episode of Topix, Was 9/11 A Conspiracy?
And crystal meth must be a helluva drug.
Insults Are Easier

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

[RADEKT]

"It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner"

You better tell that to, Lt. Col. Steven,O'Brien, Major, Robert Schumacher, and Master Sgt. Jeffrey Rosenthal, who were flying a Minnesota Air National Guard C-130 tramsport and followed Flight 77 until it crashed into the Pentagon .......... but I guess they are liars, or "in on it" ......!!!!

or Of course you can just ignore the evidence that shatters the alternate universe you live in

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
.
Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
.
Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
.
Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
.
Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
.
The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
.
(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
.
Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
.
That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
.
For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
.
Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
.
In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
.
http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !

[Say the Truth]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

They American government has been thinking about this type of black op since 1962.
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The following is from Operation Northwooods. Simply substitute 9/11 planes and objectives for Operation Northwoods details and you have the 9/11 plot in detail.
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a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
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b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.
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9. It Is possible to create an incident which will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack.
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a. Approximately 4 or 5 F-101 aircraft will be dispatched in trail from Homestead AFB, Florida, to the vicinity of Cuba. Their mission will be to reverse course and simulate faker aircraft for an air defense exercise in southern Florida. These aircraft would conduct variations of these flights at frequent Intervals. Crews would be briefed to remain at least 12 miles off the Cuban coast; however, they would be required to carry live ammunition in the event that hostile actions were taken by the Cuban MIGs.
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b. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft. While near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared.
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Rearrange this plot to fit the 9/111 facts and you just put all the pieces of the government black op
WAG THE DOG masterpiece together.
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There are a few minor details that need to be taken care of but obviously they were worked out.
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Mystery solved
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h

Right, dummy, that's why our evil overlords declassified the "master plan" so that everyone would "know the truth".

LMFAO@U

[Say the Truth]

Charlie Sheen wrote:

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You spotted that too, LOL, they were three separate physical incidents, what happens in one in no way changes the odds of the other two.
As if the statement had any validity to start with.

It's a twoofer classic; fails in both Statistical Science AND formal Logic, prima facie!

[newsReports]

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***ISRAEL --- VATICAN meetings RE: MIDEAST

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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[Charlie Sheen]

Say the Truth wrote:

<quoted text>
It's a twoofer classic; fails in both Statistical Science AND formal Logic, prima facie!

LOL, A Twoofer Twofor!

[WasteWater]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
.
Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
.
Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
.
Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
.
Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
.
The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
.
(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
.
Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
.
That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
.
For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
.
Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
.
In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
.
http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
.
That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !

Here are the main problem with your theory.

1. Flight 77 was seen being boarded and take off from Washinton Dulles.

2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.

3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.

4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.

5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.

[WasteWater]

Dr_Zorderz wrote:

More Operation Northwoods
It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela.
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The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
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c. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart.
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The pilots returning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found.
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Sound familiar?
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Deception is the single most powerful political force on the planet.
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The US is the single most powerful country (militarily) on the planet.
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By deception we will do war.
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As It Is Deceptive huh eh !

The problem with your theory is it never has been done. What makes you think it would work?