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Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

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“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>OK.

Porkpie Hat wrote, "<quoted text>
The irony is, if I was supporting your crap you'd have no issues with me being Canadian.
Now THAT'S funny!
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OK.

Dr_Zorderz wrote, "mu shu pork pig boy said,
"The irony is, if I was supporting your crap you'd have no issues with me being Canadian."
That's another lie from the bwunker who is also a pig.
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WOW, PORKPIE WINS!

Dr_Zorderz wrote, "We, the undersigned citizens of CANADA draw the attention of the House to the following:
THAT, scientific and eyewitness evidence shows that the 9/11 Commission Report is a fraudulent document"

BUT SO DOES Dr_Zorderz!

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Omo-Ni5XTGY/T_dbhhN...
He doesn't get it;-)
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Forty-seven percent of Canadians have a postsecondary degree of some kind, compared to 39 percent of Americans, and the numbers look worse (or better, if you're Canadian) when you look at citizens aged 25 to 34, as 55 percent of Canadians and 39 percent of Americans in that group have degrees (placing the U.S. 10th).

http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2009/11/06...
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#249027
Dec 13, 2012
 
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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He doesn't get it;-)
Twoofer world, where the obvious is perplexing.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Twoofer world, where the obvious is perplexing.
Don't be so hard on yourself, you might understand the complexities of the situation one day.

Sorry Charlie.

Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#249029
Dec 13, 2012
 
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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Twoofer world, where the obvious is perplexing.
You never answered my question Charlie.

Why did the firefighters not realize that the WTC was going to collapse, since the event made it so obvious that NIST failed to check for explosives and accelerants?

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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I've heard the same comments from fire fighters who laugh at the imbecilely simplistic crap twoofers find so convincing;-)
I know what you mean. Firefighters I know say the same thing. Building fires are a bitch and they get really hot due to drafting.
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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You never answered my question Charlie.
Why did the firefighters not realize that the WTC was going to collapse, since the event made it so obvious that NIST failed to check for explosives and accelerants?
Insults Are Easier
That's really not a question but an erroneous conclusion oddly tied to an unrelated question but here is a question without bias.

What were the names of those 20 pilots you claim could not hit the broad side of a barn?
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Don't be so hard on yourself, you might understand the complexities of the situation one day.
Sorry Charlie.
Insults Are Easier
You mean such complexities like legible paper and carpet stick to an object you claim is molten steel?
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Well anti-truth, plated steel has melted in office fires, but the point is steel never has.
Still LMFAO!

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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Charlie Sheen wrote:
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That's really not a question but an erroneous conclusion oddly tied to an unrelated question but here is a question without bias.
What were the names of those 20 pilots you claim could not hit the broad side of a barn?
I didn't claim to know the names of 20 pilots, I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult, x3 is virtually impossible, and I've said that before.

You have OCD and a painkiller addiction huh?

Trying to communicate with a parrot is as pointless as it is boring.

Try laying off the pills and get outside a little, it'll do you good.

Insults Are Easier
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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I didn't claim to know the names of 20 pilots, I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult, x3 is virtually impossible, and I've said that before.
You have OCD and a painkiller addiction huh?
So the 20 pilots were imaginary, great fact checking and veracity on your part.

Oddly real pilots with names say you are wrong.

And how do you know it is extremely difficult or virtually impossible, was that some of the material in the four hour course called "How to be a Wall Mart Greater".

Do go into great detail on you claim as I watch holograms of those fake WWII Kamikaze pilots.
Charlie Sheen

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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I didn't claim to know the names of 20 pilots, I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult, x3 is virtually impossible, and I've said that before.
And as Marcel Bernard pointed out, the hijackers wouldn't have required all the skills of a regular pilot:

"Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, said Bernard of Freeway Airport. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said"
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/Newsday_com.h...

People will still say that the Pentagon attack was too difficult for Hanjour to have pulled off (see here), however other debunking articles quote pilots saying that isnít the case (see here). Salon produced a recent example of the second type, written by an airline pilot (below):

As I've explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation's capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757's autopilot. Striking a stationary object -- even a large one like the Pentagon -- at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon's lawn.

It's true there's only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league. However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship. The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes' navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won't be good, but you'll be good enough.

"They'd done their homework and they had what they needed," says a United Airlines pilot (name withheld on request), who has flown every model of Boeing from the 737 up. "Rudimentary knowledge and fearlessness."

"As everyone saw, their flying was sloppy and aggressive," says Michael (last name withheld), a pilot with several thousand hours in 757s and 767s. "Their skills and experience, or lack thereof, just weren't relevant."

"The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft," agrees Ken Hertz, an airline pilot rated on the 757/767. "In much the same way that a person needn't be an experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone."

That sentiment is echoed by Joe d'Eon, airline pilot and host of the "Fly With Me" podcast series. "It's the difference between a doctor and a butcher," says d'Eon.
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/05/1...
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Dec 13, 2012
 
Experienced pilot Giulio Bernacchia agrees:

In my opinion the official version of the fact is absolutely plausible, does not require exceptional circumstances, bending of any law of physics or superhuman capabilities. Like other (real pilots) have said, the manoeuvres required of the hijackers were within their (very limited) capabilities, they were performed without any degree of finesse and resulted in damage to the targets only after desperate overmanoeuvring of the planes. The hijackers took advantage of anything that might make their job easier, and decided not to rely on their low piloting skills. It is misleading to make people believe that the hijackers HAD to possess superior pilot skills to do what they did.
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Charlie Sheen wrote:
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And as Marcel Bernard pointed out, the hijackers wouldn't have required all the skills of a regular pilot:
"Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, said Bernard of Freeway Airport. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said"
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/Newsday_com.h...
People will still say that the Pentagon attack was too difficult for Hanjour to have pulled off (see here), however other debunking articles quote pilots saying that isnít the case (see here). Salon produced a recent example of the second type, written by an airline pilot (below):
As I've explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation's capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757's autopilot. Striking a stationary object -- even a large one like the Pentagon -- at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon's lawn.
It's true there's only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league. However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship. The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes' navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won't be good, but you'll be good enough.
"They'd done their homework and they had what they needed," says a United Airlines pilot (name withheld on request), who has flown every model of Boeing from the 737 up. "Rudimentary knowledge and fearlessness."
"As everyone saw, their flying was sloppy and aggressive," says Michael (last name withheld), a pilot with several thousand hours in 757s and 767s. "Their skills and experience, or lack thereof, just weren't relevant."
"The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft," agrees Ken Hertz, an airline pilot rated on the 757/767. "In much the same way that a person needn't be an experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone."
That sentiment is echoed by Joe d'Eon, airline pilot and host of the "Fly With Me" podcast series. "It's the difference between a doctor and a butcher," says d'Eon.
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/05/1...
no one is reading your blather, you're just wasting your time now
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in the last 3 pages there have been a total of 47 post. Of those posts 40 are from the shills who are still trying so desperately to engage in debate which they lost long ago. It's like trying to pick a fight with someone who is laughing at you. You guys are just looking ridiculous now.

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Dec 13, 2012
 
Laughing wrote:
in the last 3 pages there have been a total of 47 post. Of those posts 40 are from the shills who are still trying so desperately to engage in debate which they lost long ago. It's like trying to pick a fight with someone who is laughing at you. You guys are just looking ridiculous now.
Where did flight 77 go Jackass?
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Insults Are Easier wrote:
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I didn't claim to know the names of 20 pilots, I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult, x3 is virtually impossible, and I've said that before.
You have OCD and a painkiller addiction huh?
Trying to communicate with a parrot is as pointless as it is boring.
Try laying off the pills and get outside a little, it'll do you good.
Insults Are Easier
How do you know they didn't kill the airline pilots 2 minutes before the crashes?

"I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult"

AND YOU 'KNOW' THIS HOW, EXACTLY?

"x3 is virtually impossible"

YOU FAILED STATS 101 AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY.

"Try laying off the pills"

OH THE TWOOFING IRONY!!!!
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Dec 13, 2012
 
WasteWater wrote:
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Where did flight 77 go Jackass?
stick your head in your ass and see if it's there
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Say the Truth wrote:
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How do you know they didn't kill the airline pilots 2 minutes before the crashes?
"I simply know flying a jet for the first time at top speed into target is extremely difficult"
AND YOU 'KNOW' THIS HOW, EXACTLY?
"x3 is virtually impossible"
YOU FAILED STATS 101 AS WELL, OBVIOUSLY.
"Try laying off the pills"
OH THE TWOOFING IRONY!!!!
using the caps lock is a sure sign of frustration and loss of composure. You need to take a chill pill.

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Laughing wrote:
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stick your head in your ass and see if it's there
Where did flight 77 go Jackass?

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