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#249049 Dec 13, 2012
Laughing wrote:
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keep looking, it's gotta be somewhere up your ass
Keep twooofing Jackass.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249051 Dec 13, 2012
What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
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Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
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Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
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Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
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Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
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The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
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(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
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Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
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That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
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For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
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Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
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It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
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In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
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http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249053 Dec 13, 2012
Also, let us be perfectly clear: we have never claimed that the low-flying plane seen by all of the witnesses that we interviewed was actually Flight 77, nor do we believe that to be the case..
Flight 77 was lost from radar as early as 8:56, a fact acknowledged even by the 9/11 Commission.
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There is no evidence in the public domain, official or otherwise, proving what really happened to Flight 77 after that time.
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The plane that showed up in the airspace over Arlington and Washington D.C. shortly after 9:30 (over half an hour later), which is falsely alleged to have crashed into the Pentagon, was never positively identified.
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Many of the witnesses we spoke with insist that the plane did not look like an American Airlines jet, and a number of them describe it as predominantly white or off-white in color.
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p... .
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Take your pick wasted shill
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's A Good One huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249054 Dec 13, 2012
They American government has been thinking about this type of black op since 1962.
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The following is from Operation Northwooods. Simply substitute 9/11 planes and objectives for Operation Northwoods details and you have the 9/11 plot in detail.
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a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
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b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.
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9. It Is possible to create an incident which will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack.
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a. Approximately 4 or 5 F-101 aircraft will be dispatched in trail from Homestead AFB, Florida, to the vicinity of Cuba. Their mission will be to reverse course and simulate faker aircraft for an air defense exercise in southern Florida. These aircraft would conduct variations of these flights at frequent Intervals. Crews would be briefed to remain at least 12 miles off the Cuban coast; however, they would be required to carry live ammunition in the event that hostile actions were taken by the Cuban MIGs.
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b. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft. While near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared.
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Rearrange this plot to fit the 9/111 facts and you just put all the pieces of the government black op
WAG THE DOG masterpiece together.
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There are a few minor details that need to be taken care of but obviously they were worked out.
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Mystery solved
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249055 Dec 13, 2012
More Operation Northwoods

It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela.
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The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
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c. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart.
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The pilots returning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found.
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Sound familiar?
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Deception is the single most powerful political force on the planet.
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The US is the single most powerful country (militarily) on the planet.
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By deception we will do war.
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As It Is Deceptive huh eh !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249056 Dec 13, 2012
FBI Claims 84 Videos
Show NO Flight 77 Impact
By Jon Carlson
carlson.jon@att.net
10-8-5
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Photos taken after the Pentagon crash do not support the Government conspiracy theory that Flight 77, a Boeing 757 airliner, demolished a major portion of the masonry structure:
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Seismic waveform data also brings into question what struck the Pentagon. Seismologists have detected other 9/11 aircraft even pinpointing exact crash times for the Boeing 737 airliners that crashed into the WTC Towers and the aircraft alleged to be Flight 93 that crashed in Pennsylvania.
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We analyzed seismic records from five stations in the northeastern United States, ranging from 63 to 350 km from the Pentagon. Despite detailed analysis of the data, we could not find a clear seismic signal. Even the closest station (= 62.8 km) at Soldier's Delight, Baltimore County, Maryland (SDMD) did not record the impact. We concluded that the plane impact to the Pentagon generated relatively weak seismic signals.
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http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/n...
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The RENSE article, The 911 Pentagon Engine Story,
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http://www.rense.com/general67/911eng.htm
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explained that the JT8D engine identified in the debris in front of the Pentagon wall could have been from early Boeing 737-100 and 737-200 airliners or an assortment of other aircraft.
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Since witnesses decribed the incoming Pentagon aircraft having two engines under the wings the number of possible aircraft comes down to a handful.
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National Geographic reported that the FBI confiscated a video tape from a Citgo gas station within a HALF HOUR of the crash.
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Without asking the questions how did the FBI know of the tape and how did they grab it so quickly, many people think the aircraft model could be identified from that video since the aircraft flew directly over the Citgo station
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http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/...
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It must be obvious to the most casual observer that the FBI clearly does not want what is on any video of the explosion at the Pentagon to be seen by the public.
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Why the secrecy? What in the name of national security are they hiding and protecting?
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Inquiring minds want to know. And will eventually find out.
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http://rense.com/general67/fbicl.htm
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's Funny As FBI Confiscating Incriminating Videos huh eh !

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#249057 Dec 13, 2012
Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.

While the power structure, NIST, the media, and internet trolls, shills, and crazies (and Say The Truth, that cute little turrets syndrome bugger), all try to tell you it was obviously inevitable the moment the explosions hit the WTC.

They will tell you NIST and every government agency was right to never check for explosives or incendiaries, because the fire was obviously too intense.

They will say the witness testimony from that day is just in the heads of twoofers (a word they use because they are incapable of saying truth).

Canadians will try to sell you some algebra, bridges and boat shops, to convince you that the collapse was just to obvious to need to thoroughly investigate.

All because they know more then those poor untrained firefighters did on 9/11.

Then a jackass will ask you if not at the Pentagon, then where is it? Concluding in his fragile, eggshell mind, it must therefor reside in the Pentagon.

A lack of logic and a true waste of water.

Wheres the Wall Street bankers at who love saying torture doesn't compel witnesses to change their testimony? While endlessly repeating their leagle opinions!?!?!?!?

Did NFL find his real father yet?

And will the Charlie Sheen troll ever find a job? Kinko's needs a person with his talents, but can he ever lose enough weight to fit through the door?

Find out this and much more, on tomorrows next episode of Topix, Was 9/11 A Conspiracy?

And crystal meth must be a helluva drug.

Insults Are Easier
rider

Marquette, MI

#249058 Dec 13, 2012
BY IBTimes Staff Reporter | May 02 2011 4:26 PM

This house was once the residence of Osama bin Laden’s brother, Khalil Bin Laden, located in Oakland, Florida.

Built in 1920s, the waterfront mansion sits on over 17 acres and the Al Qaeda leader reportedly spent a lot of time here. Soon after 9/11, Osama’s brother fled the country and the house was left in abandonment during which damages were caused including bullet holes in the walls.

It is currently listed at $2 million.
rider

Marquette, MI

#249059 Dec 13, 2012
Since when does a terroist deny any acts of terror? By Paul Craig Roberts
November 26, 2012
PaulCraigRoberts.org

The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational. The alleged “mastermind” of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack. The British Broadcasting Corporation’s World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.

Osama bin Laden’s sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch. No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden’s refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.

To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled “Osama bin Laden’s interview denying responsibility for 9/11.” Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden’s denial, concludes that “we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions.” In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.

The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american “free press,” a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.

Obviously, if bin Laden had outwitted not only the National Security Agency, the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the FBI, but also all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of Washington’s NATO puppet states, Israel’s Mossad, and in addition the National Security Council, NORAD, US air traffic control, and airport security four times on the same morning, it would be the greatest feat in world history, a movement building feat that would have made al Qaeda the most successful anti-imperialist organization in human history, an extraordinary victory over “the great satan” that would have brought millions of new recruits into al Qaeda’s ranks. Yet the alleged “mastermind” denied all responsibility.
Say the Truth

Lansdale, PA

#249060 Dec 13, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.
While the power structure, NIST, the media, and internet trolls, shills, and crazies (and Say The Truth, that cute little turrets syndrome bugger), all try to tell you it was obviously inevitable the moment the explosions hit the WTC.
They will tell you NIST and every government agency was right to never check for explosives or incendiaries, because the fire was obviously too intense.
They will say the witness testimony from that day is just in the heads of twoofers (a word they use because they are incapable of saying truth).
Canadians will try to sell you some algebra, bridges and boat shops, to convince you that the collapse was just to obvious to need to thoroughly investigate.
All because they know more then those poor untrained firefighters did on 9/11.
Then a jackass will ask you if not at the Pentagon, then where is it? Concluding in his fragile, eggshell mind, it must therefor reside in the Pentagon.
A lack of logic and a true waste of water.
Wheres the Wall Street bankers at who love saying torture doesn't compel witnesses to change their testimony? While endlessly repeating their leagle opinions!?!?!?!?
Did NFL find his real father yet?
And will the Charlie Sheen troll ever find a job? Kinko's needs a person with his talents, but can he ever lose enough weight to fit through the door?
Find out this and much more, on tomorrows next episode of Topix, Was 9/11 A Conspiracy?
And crystal meth must be a helluva drug.
Insults Are Easier
"turrets"

LMFAO@your STUPIDITY!!!
rider

Marquette, MI

#249061 Dec 13, 2012
ay, October 23 2012 - In the Media

Martin Sheen and Woody Harrelson set for 9/11 'truther' film September Morn

Film's advance publicity says:'We the people demand an independent investigation into the tragic events of 9/11'

October 17, 2012
by Rory Carroll
Guardian.co.uk

Film's advance publicity says:'We the people demand an independent investigation into the tragic events of 9/11'

Hollywood is to court controversy with a film that will challenge the official version of the events of 9/11, a previously taboo topic for the industry mainstream. Martin Sheen, Woody Harrelson and Ed Asner, who have all supported conspiracy theories about the terrorist attacks, have signed up to the movie, which is entitled September Morn.

Styling itself as a drama in the tradition of Twelve Angry Men, the film's advance publicity note hints at a cover-up, saying: "We the people demand that the government revisit and initiates a thorough and independent investigation to the tragic events of 911."

Details of the film, which is to be directed by BJ Davis and written by Howard Cohen, are expected to be revealed at an American Film Market conference in Los Angeles next week, Deadline.com reported.
rider

Marquette, MI

#249062 Dec 13, 2012
Jesse Ventura Live on Piers Morgan: "Every war fought starts with a false-flag operation."
rider

Marquette, MI

#249063 Dec 13, 2012
Breaking News! "9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out" has, for the last ten days, been the FIRST most watched and FIRST most shared video on the national PBS website — a surprise to us all! Please use this opportunity to suggest to your friends that they watch this excellent film at http://video.pbs.org/ . PBS lends great credibility to all of our work, so now is the time to spread the word!

Thanks to you all!

The Colorado 9/11 Visibility Team

Program for September

Colorado 9/11 Visibility educates the public about information which clearly shows that we have been lied to about what happened on September 11, 2001. In doing so, we understand that there is a context which allows this kind of atrocity to occur. This month we are pleased to show "The Crisis of Civilization," which explores this bigger picture.

Video: The Crisis of Civilization (77 minutes)
What type of societal system actually requires “terrorists,” state-sponsored false flag operations and other deceptions, a controlled media and electoral process, the gutting of our civil liberties, environmental degradation, classism (dispossession of the majority and great privilege for the very few), economic and political instability, and yes, even war?...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#249064 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
You never answered my question Charlie.
Why did the firefighters not realize that the WTC was going to collapse, since the event made it so obvious that NIST failed to check for explosives and accelerants?
Insults Are Easier
The question has been answered...and honestly, you won't accept any answer unless it supports your delusional fantasy.

NIST indirectly tested for explosives through visual examination and through the positive material identification testing done on WTC steel.

No signs of explosives were found rendering the need to test for explosives moot.

Oh but you continue repeating and re-repeating your silly little twoofer approved meme...it's all you have.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#249065 Dec 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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I know what you mean. Firefighters I know say the same thing. Building fires are a bitch and they get really hot due to drafting.
I still say it would hilarious to get a group of twoofers and a group of us together in front of a panel of relevant experts and have each side present their POV.

The laughter when guys like elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots and Ignorance is Bliss open their mouths and start spewing their preferred idiocy would be deafening!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#249066 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.
Support the statement claiming, "due to intense heat"...GO!

Steel plating.

BTW, still waiting for you to present reference material that shows plated steel melts at lower temperatures that non-plated steel.

Or will we just leave that lie hanging in the wind like your claim of a plethora of articles metioning plated steel melting in fires?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#249067 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
.
Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
.
Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
.
Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
.
Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
.
The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
.
(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
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Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
.
That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
.
For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
.
Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
.
In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
.
http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !
citizeninvestigationteam.com

Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#249068 Dec 14, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
"turrets"
LMFAO@your STUPIDITY!!!
Proving, once again, twoofers just can't get anything right!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249069 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
Please list them all instead of making a generalized statement, I BET YOU CANT!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249070 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
FALSE, All right here.

http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/evidence/p...

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