Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Buck Farrack

Monroe, LA

#249072 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Isn't it amazing, firefighters made their command center in the lobby of WTC and went into the building to fight fire, unaware of the structural failure eminently due to the intense heat.
While the power structure, NIST, the media, and internet trolls, shills, and crazies (and Say The Truth, that cute little turrets syndrome bugger), all try to tell you it was obviously inevitable the moment the explosions hit the WTC.
They will tell you NIST and every government agency was right to never check for explosives or incendiaries, because the fire was obviously too intense.
They will say the witness testimony from that day is just in the heads of twoofers (a word they use because they are incapable of saying truth).
Canadians will try to sell you some algebra, bridges and boat shops, to convince you that the collapse was just to obvious to need to thoroughly investigate.
All because they know more then those poor untrained firefighters did on 9/11.
Then a jackass will ask you if not at the Pentagon, then where is it? Concluding in his fragile, eggshell mind, it must therefor reside in the Pentagon.
A lack of logic and a true waste of water.
Wheres the Wall Street bankers at who love saying torture doesn't compel witnesses to change their testimony? While endlessly repeating their leagle opinions!?!?!?!?
Did NFL find his real father yet?
And will the Charlie Sheen troll ever find a job? Kinko's needs a person with his talents, but can he ever lose enough weight to fit through the door?
Find out this and much more, on tomorrows next episode of Topix, Was 9/11 A Conspiracy?
And crystal meth must be a helluva drug.
Insults Are Easier
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!

“the summer home in Cape Cod”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#249073 Dec 14, 2012
"It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner"

You better tell that to, Lt. Col. Steven,O'Brien, Major, Robert Schumacher, and Master Sgt. Jeffrey Rosenthal, who were flying a Minnesota Air National Guard C-130 tramsport and followed Flight 77 until it crashed into the Pentagon .......... but I guess they are liars, or "in on it" ......!!!!

or Of course you can just ignore the evidence that shatters the alternate universe you live in
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
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Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
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Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
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Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
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Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
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The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
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(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
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Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
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That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
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For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
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Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
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In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
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http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#249074 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
They American government has been thinking about this type of black op since 1962.
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The following is from Operation Northwooods. Simply substitute 9/11 planes and objectives for Operation Northwoods details and you have the 9/11 plot in detail.
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a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
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b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.
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9. It Is possible to create an incident which will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack.
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a. Approximately 4 or 5 F-101 aircraft will be dispatched in trail from Homestead AFB, Florida, to the vicinity of Cuba. Their mission will be to reverse course and simulate faker aircraft for an air defense exercise in southern Florida. These aircraft would conduct variations of these flights at frequent Intervals. Crews would be briefed to remain at least 12 miles off the Cuban coast; however, they would be required to carry live ammunition in the event that hostile actions were taken by the Cuban MIGs.
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b. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft. While near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared.
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Rearrange this plot to fit the 9/111 facts and you just put all the pieces of the government black op
WAG THE DOG masterpiece together.
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There are a few minor details that need to be taken care of but obviously they were worked out.
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Mystery solved
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha h
Right, dummy, that's why our evil overlords declassified the "master plan" so that everyone would "know the truth".

LMFAO@U
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#249075 Dec 14, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
You spotted that too, LOL, they were three separate physical incidents, what happens in one in no way changes the odds of the other two.
As if the statement had any validity to start with.
It's a twoofer classic; fails in both Statistical Science AND formal Logic, prima facie!
newsReports

AOL

#249076 Dec 14, 2012
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Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249077 Dec 14, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
It's a twoofer classic; fails in both Statistical Science AND formal Logic, prima facie!
LOL, A Twoofer Twofor!

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#249078 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
What Happened to Flight 77's Passengers?
Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence. Take, for example, the claim that one or more passengers on Flight 77, with the help of the U.S. Government, faked their deaths on September 11, 2001?
.
Let’s start with what we know. That would require a high degree of evidence because accepting this claim would require some changes within our view of an event that affects us today.
.
Let’s separate the events of September 11 into causes and results. In the minds of most Americans, the results of 9/11 are beyond question. Around 3,000 people died (more or less), three buildings were destroyed, one other building—the Pentagon—was damaged, and three commercial airliners are no longer in service, at least not under the same call signs.
.
Causes are another matter. Of the hundreds, if not thousands, of events (apart from what was then the usual routine) causing 9/11, not one of them has been honestly reported by the 9/11 Commission. Not one of them actually happened.
.
Let’s look at only two of them. Flight 77 was supposedly hijacked by Muslims shouting Hollywood-style “Islamic extremist” slogans.
.
The truth is, the flight manifest revealed that there were no Arabs or passengers with Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77.
.
(Note: Since then, efforts have been made to indicate Muslim-sounding names on Flight 77 even though they weren’t on the manifest.)
.
Secondly, Flight 77 supposedly crashed into the Pentagon. It has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not by an airliner.
.
That brings us to an uncomfortable question: If Flight 77 didn’t crash into the Pentagon, where is it now, and where are the passengers?
.
For years, I had supposed that they probably were murdered and their bodies hidden where they’d never be found.
.
Believing that Dick Cheney, Halliburton, Blackwater, and others would do something like that must sound crazy to some people.
.
It would be as crazy as supposing that they had deliberately lied about Iraq in order to get us into (for them) a highly profitable war that, incidentally, claimed the lives of over a million civilians, killed thousands of American servicemen, and ruined the emotional health of tens of thousands of other servicemen and their families.
.
In the pages of the Vatic Project, I ran across an article that suggested that one of the passengers, Barbara Kay Bracher Olson (attorney at law), has resurfaced as Lady Evelyn Booth Olson, attorney at law.
.
http://americanactionreport.blogspot.com/2010...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As an airplane hitting the pentagon
huh eh !
Here are the main problem with your theory.

1. Flight 77 was seen being boarded and take off from Washinton Dulles.

2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.

3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.

4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.

5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#249079 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
More Operation Northwoods
It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela.
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The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
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c. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart.
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The pilots returning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found.
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Sound familiar?
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Deception is the single most powerful political force on the planet.
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The US is the single most powerful country (militarily) on the planet.
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By deception we will do war.
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http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/faq-p...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As It Is Deceptive huh eh !
The problem with your theory is it never has been done. What makes you think it would work?

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#249080 Dec 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem with your theory is it never has been done. What makes you think it would work?
what a turd

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#249081 Dec 14, 2012
Keep waiting Canadian, because I never claimed plated steel causes the steel under the plating to melt at a lower temperature.

Kinda like Charlie you just repeat the same parroted nonsense to imply a lie you wish yo keep putting forth.

Cartoon sheer/fold?

How can you be certain all material was checked for explosive signatures when NIST denies firefighters claimed to see molten steel?

Canadians must believe anything official, like Kings or freedom really being unnecessary.

Oxycontin must be a helluva drug, eh?

Insults Are Easier

“Truth is unthinkable.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#249082 Dec 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>The problem with your theory is it never has been done. What makes you think it would work?
You believe false flag events have never been successfully carried out, or worse that you believe they have never been attempted?

Or are you lying now, given you believe lying indicates intelligence.

Alcohol and barbiturates must be a helluva drug.

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249083 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Keep waiting Canadian, because I never claimed plated steel causes the steel under the plating to melt at a lower temperature.
Well then according to the below you are admittting steel melts in office fires, THANKS!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Well anti-truth, plated steel has melted in office fires, but the point is steel never has.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249084 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't claim to know the names of 20 pilots,
Then how do you know they exist and the story is real TWOOFER? Because you read it on the net.

I once knew a guy that could turn himself inside out at will with no physical harm, it has to be true, it's now on the net.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#249085 Dec 14, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>
Here are the main problem with your theory.
1. Flight 77 was seen being boarded and take off from Washinton Dulles.
2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.
3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.
4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.
5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.
1. Flight 77 was seen being boarded and take off from Washinton Dulles.
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By whom? American Airlines refuses to allow all their personnel to be interviewed for reasons of privacy.
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2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.
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It was easily faked.
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3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.
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Why wasn't the FAA and NORAD alerted in time to intercept?
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4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.
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What was his name? Who interviewed him?
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5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.
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No serial numbered plane parts were ever identified back to the aircraft that alleged crashed into the Pentagon.
Show the pictures of the plane parts.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As A Phony phone call from a plane. huh eh !

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#249086 Dec 14, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
<quoted text>
You believe false flag events have never been successfully carried out, or worse that you believe they have never been attempted?
Or are you lying now, given you believe lying indicates intelligence.
Alcohol and barbiturates must be a helluva drug.
Insults Are Easier
There has never been such an operation. If you wish to believe in fantasies that's your problem.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249087 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.
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Why wasn't the FAA and NORAD alerted in time to intercept?
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They were notified right after the first strike but the planes were in the air less time than the fastest intercept over North America. You do the math.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249088 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.
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It was easily faked.
False, Prove it!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249089 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.
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No serial numbered plane parts were ever identified back to the aircraft that alleged crashed into the Pentagon.
Show the pictures of the plane parts.
Why sure, endless ones.

http://rense.com/general32/phot.htm
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#249090 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.
What was his name? Who interviewed him?
I expect this is what WW meant.

Since: Aug 11

Santa Cruz, CA

#249091 Dec 14, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Flight 77 was seen being boarded and take off from Washinton Dulles.
.
By whom? American Airlines refuses to allow all their personnel to be interviewed for reasons of privacy.
.
2. Olsen made a phone call from the plane.
.
It was easily faked.
.
3. Flight 77 was tracked by Air Traffic Control until going below radar.
.
Why wasn't the FAA and NORAD alerted in time to intercept?
.
4. A helicopter pilot saw the crash.
.
What was his name? Who interviewed him?
.
5. Evidence was gathered and photographed at the scene.
.
No serial numbered plane parts were ever identified back to the aircraft that alleged crashed into the Pentagon.
Show the pictures of the plane parts.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
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That's As Funny As A Phony phone call from a plane. huh eh !
1. Friends, relatives, bystanders, security personnel, American Airlines ticket takers to name just a few.

2. You have failed to provide anything close to proof that Olsen's phone call was faked. Since it was made on her cell phone, I'm quite sure it was verified by telephone records.

3. Yes flight 77 was tracked, as well as other aircraft in the vicinity. How do you explain how it could have disappeared? Where did it go? It would have had to cross over land at a very low altitude to go out to sea. Someone would have seen it. Besides, the helicopter pilot and others saw it.

4. There was no time to intercept. It flew out of Washington Dulles airport just a short distance away.

5. The evidence was gathered and documented. There were investigators who also confirmed what they saw.

You are calling hundreds of people liars. What is the statistical chance that hundreds can all be colluding is a massive criminal act with no motive?

Sorry, you took one small clip and turned it into something other than what actually happened. None of the pieces fit. Have you ever considered how fast the plane was traveling and how slow video and digital photography was in 2001?

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