Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248885 Dec 12, 2012
One 9/11 Commission footnote (to Chapter 7) is relatively positive.

170. FBI report, "Summary of Penttbom Investigation," Feb. 29, 2004, pp. 52­57. Hanjour successfully conducted a challenging certification flight supervised by an instructor at Congressional Air Charters of Gaithersburg, Maryland, landing at a small airport with a difficult approach.The instructor thought Hanjour may have had training from a military pilot because he used a terrain recognition system for navigation. Eddie Shalev interview (Apr.9, 2004).

And as Marcel Bernard pointed out, the hijackers wouldn't have required all the skills of a regular pilot:

"Despite Hanjour's poor reviews, he did have some ability as a pilot, said Bernard of Freeway Airport. "There's no doubt in my mind that once that [hijacked jet] got going, he could have pointed that plane at a building and hit it," he said"
http://www.pentagonresearch.com/Newsday_com.h...

People will still say that the Pentagon attack was too difficult for Hanjour to have pulled off (see here), however other debunking articles quote pilots saying that isn’t the case (see here). Salon produced a recent example of the second type, written by an airline pilot (below):

As I've explained in at least one prior column, Hani Hanjour's flying was hardly the show-quality demonstration often described. It was exceptional only in its recklessness. If anything, his loops and turns and spirals above the nation's capital revealed him to be exactly the shitty pilot he by all accounts was. To hit the Pentagon squarely he needed only a bit of luck, and he got it, possibly with help from the 757's autopilot. Striking a stationary object -- even a large one like the Pentagon -- at high speed and from a steep angle is very difficult. To make the job easier, he came in obliquely, tearing down light poles as he roared across the Pentagon's lawn.

It's true there's only a vestigial similarity between the cockpit of a light trainer and the flight deck of a Boeing. To put it mildly, the attackers, as private pilots, were completely out of their league. However, they were not setting out to perform single-engine missed approaches or Category 3 instrument landings with a failed hydraulic system. For good measure, at least two of the terrorist pilots had rented simulator time in jet aircraft, but striking the Pentagon, or navigating along the Hudson River to Manhattan on a cloudless morning, with the sole intention of steering head-on into a building, did not require a mastery of airmanship. The perpetrators had purchased manuals and videos describing the flight management systems of the 757/767, and as any desktop simulator enthusiast will tell you, elementary operation of the planes' navigational units and autopilots is chiefly an exercise in data programming. You can learn it at home. You won't be good, but you'll be good enough.

"They'd done their homework and they had what they needed," says a United Airlines pilot (name withheld on request), who has flown every model of Boeing from the 737 up. "Rudimentary knowledge and fearlessness."

"As everyone saw, their flying was sloppy and aggressive," says Michael (last name withheld), a pilot with several thousand hours in 757s and 767s. "Their skills and experience, or lack thereof, just weren't relevant."

"The hijackers required only the shallow understanding of the aircraft," agrees Ken Hertz, an airline pilot rated on the 757/767. "In much the same way that a person needn't be an experienced physician in order to perform CPR or set a broken bone."

That sentiment is echoed by Joe d'Eon, airline pilot and host of the "Fly With Me" podcast series. "It's the difference between a doctor and a butcher," says d'Eon.
http://www.salon.com/tech/col/smith/2006/05/1...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248886 Dec 12, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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The reason paper may stick to a cooling clump of molten building components is the outside cools first then as the center cools it shrinks, causing the outside layer to be pulled inward, imbedding anything stuck to it.
So the outer layer of molten steel, had paper stuck and what looks like a big piece of carpet and you can still read as after it cooled down and shrunk, AH ... LMFAO! That makes total sense, in twoofer world.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248887 Dec 12, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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And make no mistake, steel did melt on 9-11.
http://youtu.be/h7S9bnd_pnY
Show me one test that proves it was steel.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248888 Dec 12, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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The space beam theory is not something I personally can vouch for, but its not something I can rule out either. This technology has been around since Tesla, and obviously continued to this day.
http://youtu.be/6AiFL9FSz-E
Yea, But that's a sanity issue, not real world.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248889 Dec 12, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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the un cracked horseshoe steel beams, was a result of high temps not attainable in office fires.
That&#65279; warped beam shows that the fire was hot enough to warp the trusses. Which means bolts could have easily started popping. Bolts that support vertical load. This just goes to show even more evidence that the building collapsed due to structural failure.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248890 Dec 12, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Copy and pasting others words really isn't debating, and doesn't show your own understanding of the material at hand. Next time, just paste the link, and save readers the time.
LMFAO!
Insults Are Easier wrote:
Predictive Programming in Movies
Predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by our leaders. If and when these changes are put through, the public will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as 'natural progressions', as Alan Watt calls it; thus lessening any possible public resistance and commotion.
The Matrix asked the question. You wanna know why your eyes hurt? Because you never used them before.
This is why some of you can't believe government is capable of conspiracy, because you have been programmed since birth to trust them. They indoctrinate people to see the world as left/right, restrictive government or anarchy, black or white without shades of grey, a 2D model in at least a 3D universe. Thats why your mind hurts when you confront government conspiracies, because you never used it to critically analyze them before.
Government sells the idea that it is so incompetent, that it can't conspire. Its set up where incompetence is rewarded with more funding, competence is funded less. It intentionally promotes and acts incompetent for economics and to promote the idea to it's population to always avoid responsibility.
In school, people are programmed to repeat the answers, and solve the problem exactly as they tell you to. They don't teach you to learn, they teach you to follow orders. Intentionally boring as possible, with no food or drinks, no talking, after waking up early to be sleep deprived; All intentional not to maximize education, but to maximize indoctrination. Compare school tactics to the treatment of POW's, you will see the similarities.
Their goal is to make people better citizens, and better citizens to the power structure are people unable to see lies and be easily manipulated by that same power structure. The snake oil salesman of today are corporate controlled politicians, who lie easily to their dumbed down brainwashed voters who receive their information from "News" broadcasts, owned by the same corporate interests that own the politicians.
The school, the "News", are all owned by the same people. And you still think your free?
Go look at final exams from a 6th grade class in America from the 1860's, compare them to College exams today, you will see the dumbed down effect that federally funded school systems have had on our Nation.
Its how they want us, and why
Insults Are Easier

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#248892 Dec 12, 2012
Operation Northwoods wrote:
Charlie,
You mean like when Bush's Jew Treasury Secretary> Hank Paulson, demands that the US Taxpayer pay off the bad gambling debts of the Jew Wall Street Bankers, Foreign Banks, and AIG, and that he is not not to tell us which banks are getting the money, that he isn't going to tell us how much they got of our money, and that no oversight or reversal of his plan to give the Jew Bankers and AIG our money..., you mean that kind of private nondisclosure?
Anit-Semitic much?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#248893 Dec 12, 2012
RADEKT wrote:
<quoted text>by the way, it sounds like things are going well if you are hiring that many people !!!
Ya, we've hired 20 some in the last few months and need more.

The first few units are shipped and it looks like we'll be getting tons of work from this client alone.

I took this job grudgingly because I invested in the company.

I think my dividend cheques will make it all worthwhile;-)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#248894 Dec 12, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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That&#65279; warped beam shows that the fire was hot enough to warp the trusses. Which means bolts could have easily started popping. Bolts that support vertical load. This just goes to show even more evidence that the building collapsed due to structural failure.
Of course.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#248895 Dec 12, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>Story of the month, I can just see your ears perk up.
And he still can't figure out why I keep leaving cardboard boxes around his desk!

Since: Aug 11

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#248896 Dec 12, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Ya, we've hired 20 some in the last few months and need more.
The first few units are shipped and it looks like we'll be getting tons of work from this client alone.
I took this job grudgingly because I invested in the company.
I think my dividend cheques will make it all worthwhile;-)
Hope they aren't as bad as those 20 pilots who said they couldn't crash a 767 into the Pentagon if they wanted too.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248897 Dec 12, 2012
Operation Northwoods wrote:
Charlie,
You mean like when Bush's Jew Treasury Secretary> Hank Paulson, demands that the US Taxpayer pay off the bad gambling debts of the Jew Wall Street Bankers, Foreign Banks, and AIG, and that he is not not to tell us which banks are getting the money, that he isn't going to tell us how much they got of our money, and that no oversight or reversal of his plan to give the Jew Bankers and AIG our money..., you mean that kind of private nondisclosure?
Could you please show me the legislation or bill that specifies "demands that the US Taxpayer pay off the bad gambling debts of the Jew Wall Street Bankers".

Please make sure as you say that it specifically says "Jew Wall Street Banker".

And a observation, I wonder how many people would object to living next to a Jewish banker, do you think it would be higher or lower than those that would want to live next to a convicted sex offender?
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#248898 Dec 12, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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And he still can't figure out why I keep leaving cardboard boxes around his desk!
LOL!
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248900 Dec 12, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Anit-Semitic much?
the WHITE Jew of today, the Ashkenazi Jew which comprises 90% of world Jewry, were descended from the Khazarians, a Turkic pagan warrior race of WHITE people whose original homeland was in Eastern Europe/Central Asia. These Khazarians converted to Judaism in 740 AD at the behest of their king for political and economic expediency. Thus, these Khazarian descended Ashkenazi Jews are not actually 'semitic'. The true semites were descended from North Africa and thus are a DARK race of people like the descendents of the the original Israelite Jews (which the Ashkenazi are not) and the Arabs, Palestinians, Syrians, Jordanians, Egyptians, and Lebanese.
That means that these Khazarian descended white Jews are lying when they say their homeland is Israel when in fact it is Eastern Europe and their persecution of the Palestinians (who are the real semites) and the stealing of their land makes the Ashkenazi fake white Jew the real anti-semite.
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248902 Dec 12, 2012
Ashkenazis are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites
The Jews admit that they are not the descendants of the Ancient Israelites in their writings. Under the heading of "A brief History of the Terms for Jew" in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following:

"Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew."
(1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3).
The Jewish Encyclopedia:
"Khazars, a non-Semitic, Asiatic, Mongolian tribal nation who emigrated into Eastern Europe about the first century, who were converted as an entire nation to Judaism in the seventh century by the expanding Russian nation which absorbed the entire Khazar population, and who account for the presence in Eastern Europe of the great numbers of Yiddish-speaking Jews in Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Galatia, Besserabia and Rumania."



The Encyclopedia Judaica (1972):
"Khazars, a national group of general Turkic type, independent and sovereign in Eastern Europe between the seventh and tenth centuries C.E. During part of this time the leading Khazars professed Judaism... In spite of the negligible information of an archaeological nature, the presence of Jewish groups and the impact of Jewish ideas in Eastern Europe are considerable during the Middle Ages. Groups have been mentioned as migrating to Central Europe from the East often have been referred to as Khazars, thus making it impossible to overlook the possibility that they originated from within the former Khazar Empire."

The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia:
"The primary meaning of Ashkenaz and Ashkenazim in Hebrew is Germany and Germans. This may be due to the fact that the home of the ancient ancestors of the Germans is Media, which is the Biblical Ashkenaz... Krauss is of the opinion that in the early medieval ages the Khazars were sometimes referred to as Ashkenazim... About 92 percent of all Jews or approximately 14,500,000 are Ashkenazim."
http://www.iamthewitness.com/doc/Ashkenazis.a...
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248903 Dec 12, 2012
so basically the people who call themselves Jews today (the Ashkenazi) are a bunch of converted imposters who are using the religion of Judaism as a cover for their agenda of taking over the entire Muslim word. They are feeding off the ignorance of dumb Christian evangelicals who have no knowlede of the Khazarian history of the Ashkenazi Jew who unknowingly believe that they must side with these fake Jew imposters when in fact they are not even descendants of the original twelve tribes of Israel, or "God's chosen people"
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248906 Dec 12, 2012
Research Proves Jews are not Israelites
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com/TruthPage/Jew...
Research Proves "Jews" are non-Israelite Asiatics!

In 1976 Random House published a book that should have hit Modern Christian Churches like a block buster, but instead they chose to totally ignore it. It dealt with the racial origin of the people in Communist and Christian countries throughout the globe, who call themselves "Jews," and whom many Churches (and Jews themselves) generally insist are "God's Chosen People," the descendants of Abraham.

Since the late 1800's several Bible Scholars, who were also students of History and Racial origins, have insisted the Church denominations were wrong; that instead of being descendants of Abraham, Israelites, these Jews from Eastern Europe and Western Asia were descended from Mongolians and other Asiatic peoples who had adopted Judaism as their "religion" about 1,000 years ago and have become known as "Jews."

These Bible scholars were for the most, ignored or condemned, and often called "cultists" or "anti-Semites."

Now, after many years of research, a well-known 'Jewish author', Arthur Koestler has published a 255 page book titled THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE in which he proves the same point of the earlier scholars; i.e. that these Eastern European "Jews" are neither Israelites nor "Semites," but are instead Khazars, Mongols, and people of Hun descent!

Most major newspapers and magazines reviewed the book during 1976. Also, Random House, the publisher, advertised it extensively and began some of their ads with the following headline: WHAT IF MOST JEWS AREN'T REALLY SEMITES AT ALL? In addition, Random House quoted the following reviews:
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248907 Dec 12, 2012
"...Koestler...tells his story with characteristic zest, treading a lucid often entertaining path...and throws the light of shrewd common sense on what is known of Khazar culture...his thesis...is intriguing and a t several points, credible...a stimulating book..." George Steiner, The Sunday Times

"...a fascinatingly controversial book...Koestler marshals his arguments with great skill...he is certainly very persuasive..." Philip Toynbee, The Observer

"...an intriguing book which asks to be read...clearly written and well-presented...a brilliant focus on facts which too few know." Robin Lane Fox, The Financial Times

"...one of his most interesting books - interesting in its own right as a narrative of a proud and forgotten race, but also...for its possible curative effects among those still influenced by genetico-racial notions of Jewishness." John Cumming, The Tablet

"...an explosive book...by a masterly 'populariser' of scientific ideas..." Keith Brace, Birmingham Post

"...Mr. Koestler's excellent book...Is as readable as it is thought-provoking. Nothing could be more stimulating than the skill, elegance and erudition with which he marshals his facts and develops his theories..." Fitzroy Maclean, New York Times Book Review

"...You do not have to be Jewish to be interested...Are today's Western Jews really ethnic, Semitic, Biblical Jews, or are most of them descendants of converted Khazars?...This compact, interesting book...examines tragic-ironic implications in [this question] for modern history...It should fascinate." --Edmund Fuller, Wall Street Journal

"...Koestler marshals the evidence in a clear and convincing way. He tells a good story, pulling together materials from medieval Muslims and Jewish travelers, scholarly controversy and the mysterious lore of the Khazars." --Raymond Sokolov, Newsweek

"...Robert Kirsch of the Los Angeles Times stated in his lengthy review that 'Arthur Koestler publicizes with his customary skills a daring hypothesis: that THE KHAZAR JEWS MIGRATED TO POLAND AND BECAME THE FOREBEARS OF EASTERN EUROPEAN JEWRY...' GENETICALLY THEY ARE MORE RELATED TO THE HUN, UIGUR, AND MAGYAR TRIBES THAN TO THE SEED OF ABRAHAM, ISAAC, AND JACOB..." (emphasis added)
Khazarians

Stanton, KY

#248908 Dec 12, 2012
We cannot stress enough how absolutely imperative it is for all Christians to consider the startling proof in Arthur Koestler's book that today's Jews are not Israelites, and never have been. The Jewish influence on American life has reached such a stage that no student of contemporary history can ignore it. Not only the news media are Jewish monopolies, but top positions in the U.S. government are largely filled by Eastern European Jews. The magazine and book publishing houses are in Jewish hands; and movies, television, and the other entertainment industries are dominated by Jews in all phases. America's government and most of her people's sources of information are controlled and directed by Jews. If these people were really "God's Chosen People," perhaps Americans would have little cause for concern -- BUT IF THEY ARE REALLY THE "HUNS" THEY ARE THE ANCIENT ENEMIES OF CHRISTENDOM.
Say the truth

Lansdale, PA

#248909 Dec 12, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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LMFAO!
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Oh the twoofing IRONY!!!

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