Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

rider

Marquette, MI

#248298 Dec 4, 2012
Societą Generale Immobiliare (English: The General Company of Real Estate) was the largest Italian real estate and construction company. It was founded in Turin in 1862 but then moved to Rome in 1870 with the unification of Italy. After moving to Rome, the company became interested in the pastoral land around Rome and ended up buying it. With the growth of Rome, the company grew as real estate prices rose. With time, the company's activities changed from focusing on real estate to focusing on construction. One of the people to lead Immobiliare in the construction direction was Aldo Samaritani who joined the company in 1933. The company is famous for building numerous residential buildings throughout Italy.

Immobiliare's largest share holder was the Vatican, which held fifteen percent of the shares. However, most of the Vatican's holdings in the company were sold in the late 1960s to Gulf and Western. It is the predecessor of group SGI which was brought under the control of the Opus Dei in the early 1990s. The company was also involved in the scandal of Banco Ambrosiano.

[edit] Famous buildingsWatergate complex
Cavalieri Hilton Hotel in Rome

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#248299 Dec 4, 2012
Bree Styles or Horan wrote:
i dont nkow that much about 9/11, but i do know that all of the 19 terrorists were trained in the us air force by the us.
so, basically, the us helped the terrorists to train to do that!
Trained in the U.S. Air-force? You must enlist first to do that.

You have any more funny stories?
rider

Marquette, MI

#248300 Dec 4, 2012
Banco Ambrosiano was an Italian bank which collapsed in 1982. At the centre of the bank's failure was its chairman, Roberto Calvi and his membership in the illegal Masonic Lodge Propaganda Due (aka P2). Vatican Bank was Banco Ambrosiano's main shareholder, and the death of Pope John Paul I in 1978 is rumored to be linked to the Ambrosiano scandal, giving one of the subplots of The Godfather Part III. Vatican Bank was also accused of funneling covert United States funds to Solidarity and the Contras through Banco Ambrosiano.
rider

Marquette, MI

#248301 Dec 4, 2012
Vatican BankerMarcinkus was the president of the Istituto per le Opere di Religione, also known as the Vatican Bank, from 1971 to 1989. As early as April 24, 1973, Marcinkus was questioned in his Vatican office by federal prosecutor William Aronwald and Bill Lynch, head of the Organized Crime and Racketeering Section of the United States Department of Justice, about his involvement in the delivery of $14.5 million US worth of counterfeit bonds to the Vatican in July 1971, part of a total request of $950 million US worth stated in a letter on Vatican notepaper.

His name and the official letter had arisen during the investigation of an international gangster, who eventually served twelve years in prison. Marcinkus "said he considered the charges against him serious but not based enough on fact that he would violate the Vatican Bank's confidentiality to defend himself....back in the States it was agreed on the highest levels that the case against Marcinkus could not be pursued any further." [4]

In July 1982, Marcinkus was implicated in financial scandals being reported on the front pages of newspapers and magazines throughout Europe, particularly the collapse of the Banco Ambrosiano, in which Propaganda Due (aka "P2"), a Masonic Lodge, was involved (Marcinkus had been a director of Ambrosiano Overseas, based in Nassau, Bahamas, and had been involved with Ambrosiano's chairman, financier Roberto Calvi, for a number of years). He was also involved with Michele Sindona, who had links with the Mafia.

In 1984, Marcinkus was named as a possible accomplice in the supposed murder of Pope John Paul I by investigative journalist David Yallop in his book In God's Name. Yallop made allegations regarding a number of suspects associated with Marcinkus' business dealings, claiming involvement of members of the Mafia on behalf of the Vatican Bank, further stating that Marcinkus might face criminal exposure, should he be removed from his position at the bank.

Upon the election of Pope John Paul II, Marcinkus was promoted within the Vatican bank and remained in office for several years before the scandal widened, after the body of Calvi, whose Banco Ambrosiano had dealt with Marcinkus, was found hanging under London's Blackfriars Bridge in June 1982. The death of Calvi was seen by some as symbolic, since Propaganda Due referred to themselves as the "Black Friars." Adding to the troubles, journalist Mino Pecorelli, who had been investigating Marcinkus, the Vatican Bank and ties to organized crime, was found dead in 1979.[5] Marcinkus himself was never charged with a crime.[6]

He stepped aside as head of the Vatican Bank soon after, with a board of laymen assuming control of the bank.[7] The Vatican eventually paid £145 million in a settlement with creditors, with Marcinkus observing in 1986 that: "You can't run the Church on Hail Marys." [8] Markincus later said that he was misquoted, what he actually said was :" When my workers come to retire they expect a pension; it's no use my saying to them.'I'll pay you 400 Hail Marys." [9]

[edit] Later lifeHe returned to the Archdiocese of Chicago in 1990 before retiring to Arizona, where he lived as an assistant parish priest. He declined to discuss his role in the Ambrosiano scandal. Archbishop Marcinkus died in Sun City, Arizona aged 84, of undisclosed causes. In 2006 Tom Flannery's one-man play Marcinkus premiered in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania under the direction of Paul Winarski and starring Greg Korin as the Archbishop. The production has subsequently been produced in Scranton, Pennsylvania and has been optioned for a Chicago run.

Marcinkus was also played by actor Rutger Hauer in the Italian film The Bankers of God.

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#248302 Dec 4, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Landing is difficult at 1/5th of the speed, flaps extended.
I never mentioned 20 pilots, don't know what it refers to.
Pork thinks something, you think something... Amazing osmosis, eh?
Painkillers...
Insults Are Easier
If the plane and passengers didn't go into the building, where did they go?

It the plot was some nefarious government scheme, why bother sending a missile into the Pentagon? Hell, two of New York's tallest buildings had just been hit.

Why would such forces do something which would destroy the economy?

Seems like your theory lacks evidence and motive.

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#248303 Dec 4, 2012
Stuff wrote:
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Nice little summary of the official govie twoof, didn't require much thinking on your part, that's for sure. Is that all you got?
Where did the planes go? If you have an alternate explanation which makes any sense let's hear it.
rider

Marquette, MI

#248304 Dec 4, 2012
An excerpt of the book IN BANKS WE TRUST by Penny Lernoux

http://www.maebrussell.com/In%20Banks%20We%20...
rider

Marquette, MI

#248305 Dec 4, 2012

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#248306 Dec 4, 2012
Louise Belcher wrote:
MAN, You just pull so much stuff out of your butt without any validity you should rent it out for long term trailer storage.
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ANY PROOF of that?
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AND PROOF of that?
Actually the scientific validity of the poll is suspect, many were off in the last election, cell phones have thrown a moneky wrnch in many.
Yea, You claim to have said Red Hot, I can work with that so.....
You claimed you said red hot not molten so I changed my questions and still you dodge and dodge!
STILL WAITING FOR PROOF OF THIS!
A: You claimed it was steel, not me, I make no specific claims about the substance, BACK IT UP, show us a test that it was steel.
B: HOW DID THERMITE, post collapse, remain in intact density to create a thermate reaction instead of becoming massively spread out into dust like the rest of the building?
C: Post collapse how was the thermite stay connected to the ignition system.
D: If there was so much unspent thermite in endless pockets, which would burn off in a few minutes it would take endless thermite pockets to keep igniting every few minutes to keep red hot or molten pools of steel alive for months, so what the heck brought down the building if such huge amounts of thermite did not ignite when needed?
With regard to crashing. The Pentagon was a huge target. They almost missed. If the plane and passengers didn't go there, what alternate scenario is even remotely possible? What was the motive?
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#248307 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Where did the planes go? If you have an alternate explanation which makes any sense let's hear it.
They were "dustified" just like the steel in the Towers by HAARP death rays.

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#248308 Dec 4, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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They were "dustified" just like the steel in the Towers by HAARP death rays.
No doubt. I must have been aliens from outer-space. Raptured them all away. Jesus will descend on a cloud any day now.

What did I miss here? The Twoof?

Damn......

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#248309 Dec 4, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Idiots laugh when they should be learning.
The faster an airplane goes, the harder it us to line up on a point in space.
Crashing is easy. Crashing into something particular is hard.
When an election falls drastically outside of the polling and margin for error, fraud is suspected.
Okay, enough of you.
Insults Are Easier
Crashing into something is hard you say.

How about something the size of the Pentagon? Is that hard?

BTW, they almost missed.
Anonymous

New York, NY

#248310 Dec 4, 2012
who cares at this point
Louise Belcher

Lincoln, NE

#248311 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Crashing into something is hard you say.
How about something the size of the Pentagon? Is that hard?
BTW, they almost missed.
Kamikaze attacks were a myth, heck, moving, swaying boat, choppy seas, people shooting AA at the pilot all the way down, opposing pilots flying around trying to shot you down. I mean come on, if you can't pilot a plane on a clear day with a straight shot I'm going with this. Kamikaze pilots are a myth created by the Jewish bankers that live in the gold dome on the far dark side of the moon.

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#248312 Dec 4, 2012
Travis Bennett wrote:
who cares at this point
Hey we are all CSI nuts. I'll look at any theories after someone give me a reasonable explanation as to where all the planes and passengers went in an alternate reality. So far the only plausible explanation would be they were sucked into a trans-warp conduit into another dimension and a group of nefarious villians sent drones, missiles and teams of demolitions experts to pull off a scheme which would bankrupt the country and benefit no one.

Let's see those alternate explanations. I can hardly wait.

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#248313 Dec 4, 2012
Louise Belcher wrote:
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Kamikaze attacks were a myth, heck, moving, swaying boat, choppy seas, people shooting AA at the pilot all the way down, opposing pilots flying around trying to shot you down. I mean come on, if you can't pilot a plane on a clear day with a straight shot I'm going with this. Kamikaze pilots are a myth created by the Jewish bankers that live in the gold dome on the far dark side of the moon.
It was a commie plot to make the Japanese look like they had some kind of chance right?
Ironic

Padre Island Ntl Seashor, TX

#248314 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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No doubt. I must have been aliens from outer-space. Raptured them all away. Jesus will descend on a cloud any day now.
What did I miss here? The Twoof?
Damn......
Metaphoricly or spiritually phsically?
Louise Belcher

Lincoln, NE

#248315 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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It was a commie plot to make the Japanese look like they had some kind of chance right?
Yup, Jewish Commies from the moon, they are the worst of the bunch.

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#248316 Dec 4, 2012
Ironic wrote:
<quoted text>Metaphoricly or spiritually phsically?
That's hard to say. If the plane were substituted, then it would have to be physically. Good golly, how did they do that?

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#248317 Dec 4, 2012
Louise Belcher wrote:
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Yup, Jewish Commies from the moon, they are the worst of the bunch.
Never trust Jewish Commies for the Moon. I'll bet Larry Siverstein is one of their covert operatives. Those guys are not too smart about money. They blow up their buildings, confess to it on television, retract their statements and loose billions trying to make a profit. Never trust those guys myself.

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