Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

Hello

Stanton, KY

#248341 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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You know you stupid you sound?
HELLO.
Do you?

Since: Aug 11

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#248342 Dec 4, 2012
Imagination wrote:
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Operation Northwoods stated in very explicit detail how it could carry out the deception on a massive scale. One would need only a little bit of an imagination to come up with a scenario for 9/11 to be able to deceive gullible sheeple like you. Since you don't have an imagination how about I give you a very simple scenario for your Air Traffic Control question. How about we plant a government agent as the Air Traffic Controller and simulate a radar tracking on his screen of the hijacked aircraft. Or how about we just report it on the news that we did that, how would the sheeple ever know? Does that sound difficult to you?
It doesn't work. The plane was being tracked on radar at all times. The plane was seen being boared at Washinton Dulles Airport.

The hijackers went though airport security.

On the morning of September 11, 2001, the five hijackers arrived at Washington, D.C.'s Dulles International Airport. At 07:15, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Majed Moqed checked in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77,[19] arriving at the passenger security checkpoint a few minutes later at 07:18.[20] Both men set off the metal detector and were put through secondary screening. Moqed continued to set off the alarm, so he was searched with a hand wand.[21] The Hazmi brothers checked in together at the ticket counter at 07:29. Hani Hanjour checked in separately and arrived at the passenger security checkpoint at 07:35.[13] Hanjour was followed minutes later at the checkpoint by Salem and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who also set off the metal detector's alarm. The screener at the checkpoint never resolved what set off the alarm. As seen in security footage later released, Nawaf Hazmi appeared to have an unidentified item in his back pocket, but four-inch utility knives were nonetheless then permitted by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as carry-on items.[19][21] The passenger security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport was operated by Argenbright Security, under contract with United Airlines.[22]

An airplane was detected again by Dulles controllers on radar screens as it approached Washington, turning and descending rapidly. Controllers initially thought this was a military fighter, due to its high speed and maneuvering.[31] Reagan Airport controllers then asked a passing Air National Guard Lockheed C-130 Hercules to identify and follow the aircraft. The pilot, Lt. Col. Steven O'Brien, told them it was a Boeing 757 or 767, and its silver fuselage meant it was probably an American Airlines jet. He had difficulty picking out the airplane in the "East Coast haze", but then saw a "huge" fireball, and initially assumed it had hit the ground. Approaching the Pentagon, he saw the impact site on the building's west side and reported to Reagan control, "Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir".[19][32]

I suppose all the security staff, the Air Traffic Control staff and the Air National Guard pilot were all co-conspirators right?

Yes it would take a great deal of imagination.

Since: Aug 11

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#248343 Dec 4, 2012
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airline...

The plane was being tacked at all times until moments before the crash.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#248344 Dec 4, 2012
Hello wrote:
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Do you?
Yes I know how stupid you sound.
Porkpie Hat

Stanton, KY

#248345 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Yes I did. Explain where the flight that was tracked went if not into the Pentagon. Please give your best theory. I sure couldn't come up with one that worked given all the facts such as Olsen's phone call and Air Traffic Control along with the fact that the plane took off with those passengers on board. Where did it go? Beamed into space huh?
Why isn't your porkie sock out tonight?
Imagination

Stanton, KY

#248346 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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It doesn't work. The plane was being tracked on radar at all times. The plane was seen being boared at Washinton Dulles Airport.
The hijackers went though airport security.
On the morning of September 11, 2001, the five hijackers arrived at Washington, D.C.'s Dulles International Airport. At 07:15, Khalid al-Mihdhar and Majed Moqed checked in at the American Airlines ticket counter for Flight 77,[19] arriving at the passenger security checkpoint a few minutes later at 07:18.[20] Both men set off the metal detector and were put through secondary screening. Moqed continued to set off the alarm, so he was searched with a hand wand.[21] The Hazmi brothers checked in together at the ticket counter at 07:29. Hani Hanjour checked in separately and arrived at the passenger security checkpoint at 07:35.[13] Hanjour was followed minutes later at the checkpoint by Salem and Nawaf al-Hazmi, who also set off the metal detector's alarm. The screener at the checkpoint never resolved what set off the alarm. As seen in security footage later released, Nawaf Hazmi appeared to have an unidentified item in his back pocket, but four-inch utility knives were nonetheless then permitted by the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) as carry-on items.[19][21] The passenger security checkpoint at Dulles International Airport was operated by Argenbright Security, under contract with United Airlines.[22]
An airplane was detected again by Dulles controllers on radar screens as it approached Washington, turning and descending rapidly. Controllers initially thought this was a military fighter, due to its high speed and maneuvering.[31] Reagan Airport controllers then asked a passing Air National Guard Lockheed C-130 Hercules to identify and follow the aircraft. The pilot, Lt. Col. Steven O'Brien, told them it was a Boeing 757 or 767, and its silver fuselage meant it was probably an American Airlines jet. He had difficulty picking out the airplane in the "East Coast haze", but then saw a "huge" fireball, and initially assumed it had hit the ground. Approaching the Pentagon, he saw the impact site on the building's west side and reported to Reagan control, "Looks like that aircraft crashed into the Pentagon, sir".[19][32]
I suppose all the security staff, the Air Traffic Control staff and the Air National Guard pilot were all co-conspirators right?
Yes it would take a great deal of imagination.
yes, just like Operation Northwoods
Imagination

Stanton, KY

#248347 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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I suppose all the security staff, the Air Traffic Control staff and the Air National Guard pilot were all co-conspirators right?
Yes it would take a great deal of imagination.
not much really
Imagination

Stanton, KY

#248348 Dec 4, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Pearl Harbor was due to a lack of preparedness. So was Operation Drumbeat. The Government is big, slow and stupid. No, Oswald did not kill JFK nor did James Earl Ray kill MLK. J. Edgar Hoover was involved in both along with organized crime.
well, if you know we have a government who can lie about who killed JFK and MLK with an FBI director involved with organized crime, then why would you believe they would be any different today with their 9/11 narrative? In fact, after the killing of JFK and MLK they are probably worse now than they ever were.
Say the Truth

Lansdale, PA

#248349 Dec 4, 2012
Pentagon wrote:
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1. Did you ever see any video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? It looked more like a cruise missile to me followed by a big explosion. Did it ever occur to you how it was so easy to capture the video of the planes hitting the towers yet they couldn't even come up with one for the Pentagon?
2. The motive was to put an end to the investigation into the missing 2.3 trillion dollars.
1. "looked...like..."

2. The investigation didn't stop on 9/11, idiot; google it!
Say the Truth

Lansdale, PA

#248350 Dec 4, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Why isn't your porkie sock out tonight?
Oh the socking irony!

Since: Aug 11

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#248352 Dec 5, 2012
Imagination wrote:
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yes, just like Operation Northwoods
Doesn't work, there was no place to do the switch. FAIL.

Besides were did the planes and passengers go? What about the phone calls? What about Air Traffic Control? What about the radio communications?

That's a great big dodo. Not buying it.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#248353 Dec 5, 2012
Imagination wrote:
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well, if you know we have a government who can lie about who killed JFK and MLK with an FBI director involved with organized crime, then why would you believe they would be any different today with their 9/11 narrative? In fact, after the killing of JFK and MLK they are probably worse now than they ever were.
There was a certain amount of evidence in both those cases. With this there is not one shred of evidence, only wild speculation contrary to what the evidence shows us to be true. Not any different, only for this to be true, the planes and passengers needed to disappear which they did not. JFKs brain disappeared. The chain of custody of evidence was broken. I don't know much about MLK. I know that Jame Earl Ray confessed and later recanted. Both cases lack tangible evidence like the four planes, Air Traffic Controllers, Passengers, Passenger lists, airport security personnel, ticket collectors, people who saw the planes depart, people who saw the planes crash, phone calls, other pilots, radio communications, etc. etc. This is way too much evidence and people to be involved in some hair brained scheme. It makes sense for the hijackers to target four places. It makes no sense for conspirators to hit WTC7 or the pentagon. It makes sense for hijackers to destroy the economy. It makes no sense for the government to destroy the economy. So you can't actually refute the evidence. You can't supply a strong motive. You can't hang the crime on anyone but some imaginary group of conspirators consisting of thousands of people. You want me to buy this foolishness?

You MUST be kidding. Are you kidding me?

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#248355 Dec 5, 2012
The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible -

Donlad Rumsfeld 9/10/01

MISSING !?!?!?!?!? I THINK NOT YOU LYING TWOOFER !!!!!
Pentagon wrote:
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1. Did you ever see any video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? It looked more like a cruise missile to me followed by a big explosion. Did it ever occur to you how it was so easy to capture the video of the planes hitting the towers yet they couldn't even come up with one for the Pentagon?
2. The motive was to put an end to the investigation into the missing 2.3 trillion dollars.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#248356 Dec 5, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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Pearl Harbor was due to a lack of preparedness. So was Operation Drumbeat. The Government is big, slow and stupid. No, Oswald did not kill JFK nor did James Earl Ray kill MLK. J. Edgar Hoover was involved in both along with organized crime. Now tell me, where did the pentagon plane go? It was being tracked by radar until it dropped below at the very last point. What about the plane and passengers who departed the airport? What about Olsen's phone call? Care to elaborate on those points?
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So now you have admitted to not believing your government when the Warren Commission tells you Oswald acted alone and the government says JER killed MLK. You also believe both murderous events were organized by the head of the FBI in collusion with a notorious crime syndicate, and possibly with military organizations of other countries.
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In short your government can not be trusted to tell you the truth, and does indeed act outside the law of the land when it suits them.
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This revelation begs the question: Why do you put so much faith in the findings of NIST, the 9/11 Commission, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, or any other government entity when it has been shown and you already believe that they all will lie directly to your face whenever it behooves them politically?
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Why are they all of a sudden telling you the truth about 9/11?(Within hours of the event) And why do you believe anything they say?
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"Scratch a liar and find a thief."
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If I have the time today I may post a synopsis of a particular theory of Flight 77 you are welcome to believe or not as you see fit.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah
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That’s A Good One huh eh !

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#248357 Dec 5, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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So now you have admitted to not believing your government when the Warren Commission tells you Oswald acted alone and the government says JER killed MLK. You also believe both murderous events were organized by the head of the FBI in collusion with a notorious crime syndicate, and possibly with military organizations of other countries.
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In short your government can not be trusted to tell you the truth, and does indeed act outside the law of the land when it suits them.
.
This revelation begs the question: Why do you put so much faith in the findings of NIST, the 9/11 Commission, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, or any other government entity when it has been shown and you already believe that they all will lie directly to your face whenever it behooves them politically?
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Why are they all of a sudden telling you the truth about 9/11?(Within hours of the event) And why do you believe anything they say?
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"Scratch a liar and find a thief."
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If I have the time today I may post a synopsis of a particular theory of Flight 77 you are welcome to believe or not as you see fit.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah
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That’s A Good One huh eh !
Oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Canada

#248358 Dec 5, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Why isn't your porkie sock out tonight?
http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlny/files/o...

Sleep it off junkie.
Charlie Sheen

Louisville, NE

#248359 Dec 5, 2012
Who were those 20 elevator pilots you put so much faith in?
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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So now you have admitted to not believing your government when the Warren Commission tells you Oswald acted alone and the government says JER killed MLK. You also believe both murderous events were organized by the head of the FBI in collusion with a notorious crime syndicate, and possibly with military organizations of other countries.
.
In short your government can not be trusted to tell you the truth, and does indeed act outside the law of the land when it suits them.
.
This revelation begs the question: Why do you put so much faith in the findings of NIST, the 9/11 Commission, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, or any other government entity when it has been shown and you already believe that they all will lie directly to your face whenever it behooves them politically?
.
Why are they all of a sudden telling you the truth about 9/11?(Within hours of the event) And why do you believe anything they say?
.
"Scratch a liar and find a thief."
.
If I have the time today I may post a synopsis of a particular theory of Flight 77 you are welcome to believe or not as you see fit.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah
.
That’s A Good One huh eh !

“9/11 Twoof = STUPID ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#248360 Dec 5, 2012
REALLY MORON !?!?!??!

how many camera's captured the first strike into the WTC !?!?!?!?!?
Pentagon wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Did you ever see any video of a plane hitting the Pentagon? It looked more like a cruise missile to me followed by a big explosion. Did it ever occur to you how it was so easy to capture the video of the planes hitting the towers yet they couldn't even come up with one for the Pentagon?
2. The motive was to put an end to the investigation into the missing 2.3 trillion dollars.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#248361 Dec 5, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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What about the plane and passengers who departed the airport?
Care to elaborate on those points?
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The official theory states that AA Flight 77 Boeing 757-223, tail number N644AA took of from Gate D26 at Dulles Airport at 8:20AM, ten minutes later than scheduled.
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In spite of the lack of documentation in the BTS archives, there are solid reasons to believe that a plane identified as Flight 77 was airborne on 9/11/01. The expected sources, the Washington Air Traffic Control Center, the Indianapolis Control Center, the Herndon Command Center and the FAA have all been cited as having identified and/or contacted the flight while it was airborne.
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The issue is not the existence of the plane, but rather of the passengers boarding. There are apparently no credible sources that account for sightings of passengers, either waiting for the plane or boarding it. Attempts by a leading researcher to obtain permission from American Airlines to interview employees who saw the passengers off have been declined by the airline for reasons of privacy.
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http://www.newdemocracyworld.org/old/Noeviden...
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The Armed Forces has released a document as to the number of people whose remains they identified among the AA 77 passengers, but has never released names.
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http://www.cstl.nist.gov/strbase/pub_pres/Eds...
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It is hard to accept that a need for privacy could be more important than informing the public as to one of the reasons the US went to war in the MidEast. Viewing the passengers as people rather than the accumulation of numbers would be much stronger evidence that they were on the plane.
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A look at the backgrounds of the alleged passengers reveal some interesting facts. At least sixteen of the alleged 58 passengers worked in classified positions in the defense sector. This should make us wonder if these passengers were perhaps blackmailed into their participation in the plot or if they had the confidence of the plotters not to reveal their true roles.
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http://www.voltairenet.org/article163908.html
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According to declassified data obtained by Pilots for 9/11 Truth a data parameter known as “CI” recorded no movements from the cockpit door throughout the flight. This means that no one could have gotten inside the cockpit during the flight. No one could have hi-jacked it.
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http://www.voltairenet.org/article163151.html
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In fact the 9/11 Commission on pages 32-33 acknowledges that no ATC’s ever identified AA Flight 77 as a hi-jacked plane while it was airborne.
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Two unidentified military aircraft (one was an EB4) were tracked on radar and flew near the Pentagon at the time the Pentagon was struck. What were these planes doing so close to the Pentagon and did they have anything to do with the plot? If the official theory is true, it would seem that this information should not be a secret.
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http://www.historycommons.org/searchResults.j...
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A photography expert (Jack White) has identified inconsistencies in pictures purportedly taken at the Pentagon shortly after the crash and those taken a few days later. In one comparison, he shows differences in the shade of the color of the grass on the lawn outside the building and in another he demonstrates that a steel guard rail was either retouched or that photos were composites. White also identifies objects that were most likely planted or inserted into photos after the fact. He raised the obvious question as to why the Pentagon would tamper with the scene or the pictures if Flight 77 had indeed struck the building.
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The conclusion that best fits the facts is that AA Flight 77 made it into the air on 9/11/01 without passengers and did not strike the Pentagon.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That’s A Good One huh eh !

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#248362 Dec 5, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
<quoted text>
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So now you have admitted to not believing your government when the Warren Commission tells you Oswald acted alone and the government says JER killed MLK. You also believe both murderous events were organized by the head of the FBI in collusion with a notorious crime syndicate, and possibly with military organizations of other countries.
.
In short your government can not be trusted to tell you the truth, and does indeed act outside the law of the land when it suits them.
.
This revelation begs the question: Why do you put so much faith in the findings of NIST, the 9/11 Commission, the FBI, the CIA, NSA, or any other government entity when it has been shown and you already believe that they all will lie directly to your face whenever it behooves them politically?
.
Why are they all of a sudden telling you the truth about 9/11?(Within hours of the event) And why do you believe anything they say?
.
"Scratch a liar and find a thief."
.
If I have the time today I may post a synopsis of a particular theory of Flight 77 you are welcome to believe or not as you see fit.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ah ah
.
That’s A Good One huh eh !
I looked at all the information that was available too me and came to the conclusion there were many problems. What's more, the JFK assassination actually proves that wide spread conspiracies fail. For example, Earl Rose, the coroner in Dallas wrote a book about it.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/medical.htm

There is simply no comparison between the two events. Unless you can come up with a more reasonable explanation of how the planes could have been substituted other than the "false flag" nonsense, I can come to no other conclusion than what the official report stated.

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