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Nov 26, 2012
 
RADEKT wrote:
Does it matter !?!?!?! You are a CLUELESS MORON who just doesn't get it or doesn't want to get it
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So am I ! And you for that matter.

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Nov 26, 2012
 
Steve Herrmann BBC 11:33 UK time, Friday, 27 October 2006

A five-year-old story from our archive has been the subject of some recent editorial discussion here. The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. This confusion was widely reported and was also acknowledged by the FBI.

The story has been cited ever since by some as evidence that the 9/11 attacks were part of a US government conspiracy.

We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. In the intervening years we have also reported in detail on the investigation into the attacks, the 9/11 commission and its report.

We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names
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No they did not retract their story!

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Nov 26, 2012
 
..... as are your parents for ever having a worthless piece of shit like you
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Nov 26, 2012
 
hunter wrote:
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No they did not retract their story!
That's odd, From the BBC, Link provided.

A five-year-old story from our archive has been the subject of some recent editorial discussion here. The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. This confusion was widely reported and was also acknowledged by the FBI.

The story has been cited ever since by some as evidence that the 9/11 attacks were part of a US government conspiracy.

We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. In the intervening years we have also reported in detail on the investigation into the attacks, the 9/11 commission and its report.

We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names.

In an effort to make this clearer, we have made one small change to the original story. Under the FBI picture of Waleed al Shehri we have added the words "A man called Waleed Al Shehri..." to make it as clear as possible that there was confusion over the identity. The rest of the story remains as it was in the archive as a record of the situation at the time.

We recently asked the FBI for a statement, and this is, as things stand, the closest thing we have to a definitive view: The FBI is confident that it has positively identified the nineteen hijackers responsible for the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Also, the 9/11 investigation was thoroughly reviewed by the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States and the House and Senate Joint Inquiry. Neither of these reviews ever raised the issue of doubt about the identity of the nineteen hijackers.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2006/10...
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Sorry, Missed your post.
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Steve Herrmann BBC 11:33 UK time, Friday, 27 October 2006
A five-year-old story from our archive has been the subject of some recent editorial discussion here. The story, written in the immediate aftermath of the 9/11 attacks, was about confusion at the time surrounding the names and identities of some of the hijackers. This confusion was widely reported and was also acknowledged by the FBI.
The story has been cited ever since by some as evidence that the 9/11 attacks were part of a US government conspiracy.
We later reported on the list of hijackers, thereby superseding the earlier report. In the intervening years we have also reported in detail on the investigation into the attacks, the 9/11 commission and its report.
We’ve carried the full report, executive summary and main findings and, as part of the recent fifth anniversary coverage, a detailed guide to what’s known about what happened on the day. But conspiracy theories have persisted. The confusion over names and identities we reported back in 2001 may have arisen because these were common Arabic and Islamic names
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#247261
Nov 26, 2012
 
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>Yea of coarse you have spoken to them, NOT!
You may have done,In your imagination!
As I said before,Go see your therapist and get your medication changed.
Personally I don't think there's a lot of hope for you.
I've spoken to many engineers about twoof, I work with engineers all day, every day.

Not one has ever said, "they're right!". Yet every one I've spoken to has chuckled about the absolute lack of knowledge you losers possess.

I know it hurts little camper, just like finding out reports of molten steel are commonplace in large fires hurts you.

I've had the same experience speaking with fire fighters and pilots, but you read twoofer websites...then think you know more than the lot of them together.

Btw, still waiting for all those papers about nano-thermite...

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#247262
Nov 26, 2012
 
Say the Truth wrote:
<quoted text>So am I ! And you for that matter.
Why is it twoof relies on intentional deception for everything elevator boy-sheep?

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#247263
Nov 26, 2012
 
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>No they did not retract their story!
In twooferdumb, here in reality they did.

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First off, Canadians should celebrate Thanksgiving, because without the Pilgrims breaking bread with the Native Americans, then subsequently committing genocide upon them, none of what our two nations enjoy today would be possible.
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Nothing points to the use of explosives and your argument is akin to a coroner examining a body for knife wounds because a bloody knife was found near the body, then turning around and claiming he was wrong because he didn't also examine the body for gun shots or tire tracks.
In this investigative scenario, the coroner should check for all causes of injury, especially if witnesses claimed to hear gunshots and the sound of an engine. I have a problem with any investigation not being thorough and scientific, and so should everyone.

All scientific investigations should follow the scientific method (which is taught in 5th grade), where all observations are tested. At WTC the investigators were not there to observe first hand, so witness testimony and video should have been the observation that they prove or disprove.

The NIST ignoring molten steel at WTC video shows steel in yellow hot status days and weeks after the collapse. This suggests temperatures much higher during collapse, and why explosives should have been tested, not ignored.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r9lhQTeVJv4/S7zWJeG...

The "meteorite" itself shows concrete wrapped around steel. Indicative of high heat and/or pressure. Assuming NIST didn't consider these types of recovered pieces relevant, because they assumed them to be created long after the collapse, is unscientific in itself, because science shouldn't assume, it should test and prove.

Most of the links you provide start off with the premise that "conspiracists" are crazy and can't be convinced of anything scientific, then labels them "troothers". I tend to disregard these types of biased attack pieces intended to mislead readers into false belief systems.

One article actually compares questioning government accounts to questioning the sun rise, even though government has been shown to mislead on countless occasions, while the sun rising has always been truthful.

Facts do not require character attacks, but

Insults Are Easier

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Nov 26, 2012
 
First off, Canadians should celebrate Thanksgiving, because without the Pilgrims breaking bread with the Native Americans, then subsequently committing genocide upon them, none of what our two nations enjoy today would be possible.
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text> Nothing points to the use of explosives and your argument is akin to a coroner examining a body for knife wounds because a bloody knife was found near the body, then turning around and claiming he was wrong because he didn't also examine the body for gun shots or tire tracks.
In this investigative scenario, the coroner should check for all causes of injury, especially if witnesses claimed to hear gunshots and the sound of an engine. I have a problem with any investigation not being thorough and scientific, and so should everyone.

All scientific investigations should follow the scientific method (which is taught in 5th grade), where all observations are tested. At WTC the investigators were not there to observe first hand, so witness testimony and video should have been the observation that they prove or disprove.

The NIST ignoring molten steel at WTC video shows steel in yellow hot status days and weeks after the collapse. This suggests temperatures much higher during collapse, and why explosives should have been tested, not ignored.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r9lhQTeVJv4/S7zWJeG...

The "meteorite" itself shows concrete wrapped around steel. Indicative of high heat and/or pressure. Assuming NIST didn't consider these types of recovered pieces relevant, because they assumed them to be created long after the collapse, is unscientific in itself, because science shouldn't assume, it should test and prove.

Most of the links you provide start off with the premise that "conspiracists" are crazy and can't be convinced of anything scientific, then labels them "troothers". I tend to disregard these types of biased attack pieces intended to mislead readers into false belief systems.

One article actually compares questioning government accounts to questioning the sun rise, even though government has been shown to mislead on countless occasions, while the sun rising has always been truthful.

Facts do not require character attacks, but

Insults Are Easier

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#247266
Nov 26, 2012
 
and even though it was posted twice they still wont get it
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Sorry, Missed your post.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
The lost quote... Third times a charm.

First off, Canadians should celebrate Thanksgiving, because without the Pilgrims breaking bread with the Native Americans, then subsequently committing genocide upon them, none of what our two nations enjoy today would be possible.

Porkpie Hat wrote "Nothing points to the use of explosives and your argument is akin to a coroner examining a body for knife wounds because a bloody knife was found near the body, then turning around and claiming he was wrong because he didn't also examine the body for gun shots or tire tracks."

In this investigative scenario, the coroner should check for all causes of injury, especially if witnesses claimed to hear gunshots and the sound of an engine. I have a problem with any investigation not being thorough and scientific, and so should everyone.

All scientific investigations should follow the scientific method (which is taught in 5th grade), where all observations are tested. At WTC the investigators were not there to observe first hand, so witness testimony and video should have been the observation that they prove or disprove.

The NIST ignoring molten steel at WTC video shows steel in yellow hot status days and weeks after the collapse. This suggests temperatures much higher during collapse, and why explosives should have been tested, not ignored.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r9lhQTeVJv4/S7zWJeG...

The "meteorite" itself shows concrete wrapped around steel. Indicative of high heat and/or pressure. Assuming NIST didn't consider these types of recovered pieces relevant, because they assumed them to be created long after the collapse, is unscientific in itself, because science shouldn't assume, it should test and prove.

Most of the links you provide start off with the premise that "conspiracists" are crazy and can't be convinced of anything scientific, then labels them "troothers". I tend to disregard these types of biased attack pieces intended to mislead readers into false belief systems.

One article actually compares questioning government accounts to questioning the sun rise, even though government has been shown to mislead on countless occasions, while the sun rising has always been truthful.

Facts do not require character attacks, but

Insults Are Easier

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Nov 26, 2012
 
"I have a problem with any investigation not being thorough and scientific"

CAN ANYBODY SAY .... IRONIC !!!!!!!!!!
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First off, Canadians should celebrate Thanksgiving, because without the Pilgrims breaking bread with the Native Americans, then subsequently committing genocide upon them, none of what our two nations enjoy today would be possible.
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In this investigative scenario, the coroner should check for all causes of injury, especially if witnesses claimed to hear gunshots and the sound of an engine. I have a problem with any investigation not being thorough and scientific, and so should everyone.
All scientific investigations should follow the scientific method (which is taught in 5th grade), where all observations are tested. At WTC the investigators were not there to observe first hand, so witness testimony and video should have been the observation that they prove or disprove.
The NIST ignoring molten steel at WTC video shows steel in yellow hot status days and weeks after the collapse. This suggests temperatures much higher during collapse, and why explosives should have been tested, not ignored.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_r9lhQTeVJv4/S7zWJeG...
The "meteorite" itself shows concrete wrapped around steel. Indicative of high heat and/or pressure. Assuming NIST didn't consider these types of recovered pieces relevant, because they assumed them to be created long after the collapse, is unscientific in itself, because science shouldn't assume, it should test and prove.
Most of the links you provide start off with the premise that "conspiracists" are crazy and can't be convinced of anything scientific, then labels them "troothers". I tend to disregard these types of biased attack pieces intended to mislead readers into false belief systems.
One article actually compares questioning government accounts to questioning the sun rise, even though government has been shown to mislead on countless occasions, while the sun rising has always been truthful.
Facts do not require character attacks, but
Insults Are Easier
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Insults Are Easier wrote:
The NIST ignoring molten steel at WTC video shows steel in yellow hot status days and weeks after the collapse. This suggests temperatures much higher during collapse, and why explosives should have been tested, not ignored.
A: Show us any test that proves it was steel

B: How would molten steel weeks latter prove explosives?
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Insults Are Easier wrote:
The "meteorite" itself shows concrete wrapped around steel. Indicative of high heat and/or pressure.
And unburned paper embedded in it so I'm going with pressure, with 110 stories of rubble I wonder where that would have came from.

http://www.debunking911.com/jones.htm#Iron%20...

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Nov 26, 2012
 
...... Que CONFUSION !!!!!
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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A: Show us any test that proves it was steel
B: How would molten steel weeks latter prove explosives?

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9/11 was a theatrical (Wag The Dog) event, the largest (black op) in world history. Planes were seen hitting (melting into) buildings that should have shaken off the blow like a man being tapped on the arm by a friend.
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Buildings untouched dropped like stepped on by Zeus.
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Videos from airports, videos of all kinds disappeared, our Air Forces seemed to dissolve, NORAD became non-existent, top secret security systems were turned off and a story was invented of how 19 men who spent months screaming out to everyone who would listen,“we are terrorists” got on planes and did the impossible, made planes do what planes can’t, flew in ways no pilot could fly and evaded the video systems of airports that had been under terror alert for years.
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Thus, a decade later, when the blaming begins, the stories about how the FBI and CIA covered it all up, how they really knew about the hijackers but were somehow totally stupid, how George Tenet was a traitor for some reason after a lifetime of loyal service, the fairy tales loading the news today, know that the “cover and deception” program is alive and well.
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Of course I believe there were no real hijackers, just actors with stolen identities, FBI and CIA agents misled, duped into giving them money, told it was part of a secret scheme to undermine a secret terror organization.
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Now they know better, the “fall guys” of the CIA and FBI, now being blamed for 9/11.
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Those that couldn’t be controlled, threatened with “career death,” no more job, no pension, even prison, were “liquidated.”
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We will never know how many.
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When it was proven that a third tower, Building 7, was blown up on 9/11, what did that mean? If one building was blown up on purpose, they all were..
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The planes were just theater, nothing else, just like the actors who played the hijackers. Pure Wag The Dog stuff.
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You might say you have seen no proof of this? In fact, the proof is, not only overwhelming, it exists in such quantity it would boggle the mind. Here is a simple question.
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Why are we in Afghanistan? Think for a minute. 80 billion dollars in heroin will be shipped by plane from Afghanistan.
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We say the Taliban does it but they have no planes.
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Where do they get them?
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Where does the money go?
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What will 80 billion buy?
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Then add the billions missing from the defense budget, the trillions that disappeared from Wall Street, the endless billions in drug trade over the border with Mexico that we seem unable to control.
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With one billion dollars, I could buy congress, the presidency, the heads of our government agencies, the military.
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Tell me I am wrong?
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The folks we are dealing with could blow a billion dollars on lunch?
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Their “chump change” bought your news, bought much of the internet, certainly bought congress, bought enough generals and admirals to fill a stadium.
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Just go to work tomorrow or wait for that check in the mail. Send your kids to Afghanistan to die. Pay your taxes and vote for the idiot of their choice.
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http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/09/11/911-c...
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If you want to live, keep your mouth shut.
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha
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That's Good For A Laugh huh eh !
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Buildings untouched dropped like stepped on by Zeus.
Which one was untouched?
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Of course I believe there were no real hijackers, just actors with stolen identities, FBI and CIA agents misled, duped into giving them money, told it was part of a secret scheme to undermine a secret terror organization.
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Now they know better, the “fall guys” of the CIA and FBI, now being blamed for 9/11.
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Those that couldn’t be controlled, threatened with “career death,” no more job, no pension, even prison, were “liquidated.”

We will never know how many.
I'll go with ZERO, do you have anything at all that would put that number into doubt?

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Well mobile doesn't show quotes... I thought it was correct.

And everythings always ironic, talk about an overused word. Get with NFL and use his thesaurus. Another word for moron would also be good.

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