Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

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#247297 Nov 26, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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Mostly the tires, some got broken windows from falling debris and the interiors caught fire.
This slide show shows the vehicle fires started after the first collapse.
http://smg.beta.photobucket.com/user/DoYouEve...
Yea I saw that one. Must have caught from a direct hit of really hot debris. The others could have caught from hot debris blowing out of the collapsing buildings. See, we can agree on many things if we look at the existing footage.

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#247298 Nov 26, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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First you'd have to show the damage was anomalous.
You know, the phase of actually proving your idiotic claim had merit.
Funny how twoof always avoids that part...oh and the damage is consistant with all car fires and if you can't figure out what caused the fires, you're a bigger fool than the idiot who originally claimed it was pyroclastic flows.
I see you are not a CSI fan.

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#247299 Nov 26, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>Yea I saw that one. Must have caught from a direct hit of really hot debris. The others could have caught from hot debris blowing out of the collapsing buildings. See, we can agree on many things if we look at the existing footage.
*face palm*

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Edmonton, Canada

#247300 Nov 26, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
<quoted text>I see you are not a CSI fan.
Not a fan of tv in any way, shape or form.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#247301 Nov 26, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Canadians do celebrate Thanksgiving although on a different date.
The difference is that we signed treaties rather than go to war with Native Canadians...regardless, a meaningless comment with no value.
Well thats good to know, and since Canada was greatly influenced by the traitors who were loyal to the British and who went there as refugees, it makes sense they brought their customs with them. It also explains your pro-government position on everything, it's in your Canadian blood after all.

But happy pre-emptive Thanksgiving anyways.
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Here's a corollary in a court of law;
"Defense call coroner John Doe."
"Dr. Doe, can you please describe the wounds found on Dead Guy's body?"
"Of course...(coroner lists the various wounds and their specifics)."
Defense: "Dr. Doe, did you specifically examine the body for gun shot wounds?"
Except in 9/11, the coroner ignored various wounds... In court, as in life, experts can be found to disagree on virtually anything.

If 9/11 was a an individual murder, then the coroner only tested a few pieces of the body, after it was dismembered and shipped off to China, and didn't bother checking for other possible causes of death, because he saw a bloody knife in a crime scene photo.

Defense: Did you check for explosives or incendiaries?

NIST: No, I saw a video of a plane hitting and assumed that to be the only cause. And all the wreckage I was allowed to see showed no indication of explosives.

Defense: Objection, unscientific, and contrary to the scientific method.
Porkpie Hat wrote:
Right, find a mirror.
You first.

Insults Are Easier
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#247302 Nov 26, 2012
WasteOfSpace wrote:
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I see you are not a CSI fan.
Hint: CSI is "entertainment", not reality.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#247303 Nov 26, 2012
The Osama bin Laden Myth
Monday, November 26, 2012 by Paul Craig Roberts
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Paul Craig Roberts
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The interview below with Osama bin Laden was conducted by the Karachi, Pakistan, daily newspaper, Ummat, and published on September 28, 2001, 17 days after the alleged, but unsubstantiated, al Qaeda attack of September 11, 2001, on the World Trade Center twin towers and Pentagon. The interview was sensational.
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The alleged "mastermind" of 9/11 said that he and al Qaeda had nothing to do with the 9/11 attack.
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The British Broadcasting Corporation's World Monitoring Service had the interview translated into English and made public on September 29, 2001.
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Osama bin Laden's sensational denial was not reported by the US print and TV media. It was not investigated by the executive branch.
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No one in the US Congress called attention to bin Laden's refusal of responsibility for the greatest humiliation ever inflicted on a superpower.
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To check my memory of the lack of coverage, I googled "Osama bin Laden's interview denying responsibility for 9/11." Some Internet sites reproduced the interview, but the only mainstream news source that I found was a 1 minute YouTube video from CNN in which the anchor, after quoting an al Jazeera report of bin Laden's denial, concludes that "we can all weigh that in the scale of credibility and come to our own conclusions." .
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In other words, bin Laden had already been demonized, and his denial was not credible.
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The sensational news was unfit for US citizens and was withheld from them by the american "free press," a press free to lie for the government but not to tell the truth.
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Obviously, if bin Laden had outwitted not only the National Security Agency, the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency and the FBI but also all 16 US intelligence agencies, all intelligence agencies of Washington's NATO puppet states, Israel's Mossad and in addition the National Security Council, NORAD, US air traffic control and airport security four times on the same morning, it would be the greatest feat in world history, a movement-building feat that would have made al Qaeda the most successful anti-imperialist organization in human history, an extraordinary victory over "the great satan" that would have brought millions of new recruits into al Qaeda's ranks.
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Yet the alleged "mastermind" denied all responsibility.

I remember decades ago when a terrorist attack occurred in Europe, whether real or an Operation Gladio false-flag attack, innumerable organizations would claim credit.
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Perhaps this was the CIA's way of diverting attention from itself but it illustrates that every intelligence service understands the value to an organization of claiming credit for a successful attack.
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Although bin Laden denied responsibility, in 2011 some al Qaeda leaders, realizing the prestige value of the 9/11 attack, claimed credit for the attack and criticized Iranian President Ahmadinejad for questioning the official US story.
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Although only a few Americans are aware of the September 28, 2001 interview in which bin Laden states his non-involvement with the 9/11 attacks, many Americans have seen post-2001 videos in which a person alleged to be bin Laden takes credit for the attacks. There are two problems with these videos. Experts have examined them and found them to be fakes, and all of the videos appeared after bin Laden was reported by the Pakistan Observer, the Egyptian press and Fox News to have died in mid-December, 2001, from lung disease.
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Bin Laden also suffered from kidney disease. According to a CBS news report on January 28, 2002, Osama bin Laden was hospitalized for dialysis treatment in the Pakistani military hospital in Rawalpindi on September 10, 2001, the day before 9/11.
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http://www.thedailybell.com/28364/Paul-Craig-...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha agggh
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That's A Funny One huh eh !

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#247304 Nov 26, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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Not a fan of tv in any way, shape or form.
Me neither. I rent the series on DVDs. I don't think cable has much worth paying for.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

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#247305 Nov 26, 2012
Obviously, a man suffering from terminal lung and kidney disease did not survive for another decade to be murdered by a US Navy SEAL team in Abbottabad. A Pakistani TV interview with the neighbor of the alleged "bin Laden compound" exposed the assassination hoax. This sensational interview also went unreported by america's "free press." I had the interview translated, and it is available here. See also this video from the BBC.
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Shortly after the alleged assassination 30 members of the SEAL unit died in a mysterious helicopter crash in Afghanistan, and now we learn that not a single one of the thousands of sailors on the aircraft carrier, the USS Carl Vinson, witnessed bin Laden's alleged burial at sea from that ship. The press reports with a straight face that for unexplained reasons it was kept secret from the ship's sailors.
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This is supposed to be the explanation of the sailors' emails reporting to family and friends that they witnessed no burial at sea.
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Some speculate that the SEALs were bumped off before their questions to one another, "Were you on that raid?", reached outside the unit..
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Apparently, it doesn't strike the media or the public as strange that the US government captured and killed the terror mastermind without interrogating him and without keeping any evidence or presenting any witnesses to support the assassination claim.
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Adolf Hitler claimed that communists burned down the Reichstag and that Polish troops had crossed the frontier and attacked Germany. With 9/11, Americans experienced Washington's version of these grand lies.
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An omniscient bin Laden dying from terminal illnesses in distant Afghanistan defeated the American National Security State and drove his attack through the walls of the Pentagon itself, requiring for our defense a "war on terror" that destroyed US civil liberties and financially ruined the country in order to prevent the triumph of a man who died of natural causes in December 2001.
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On May 9, 2011, Professor Michel Chossudovsky republished the September 28, 2001, Osama bin Laden interview in Global Research.
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Interview with Osama bin Laden. Osama Denies his Involvement in 9/11
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By Global Research, May 09, 2011, URL of this article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/interview-with-o...
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Global Research Editor's Note
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We bring to the attention of our readers the following text of Osama bin Laden's interview with Ummat, a Pakistani daily, published in Karachi on September 28, 2001.
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It was translated into English by the BBC World Monitoring Service and made public on September 29, 2001.
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The authenticity of this interview, which is available in recognized electronic news archives, is confirmed.
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Osama bin Laden categorically denies his involvement in the 9/11 attacks.
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Bin Laden's statements in this interview are markedly different from those made in the alleged Osama video tapes.
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In this interview, Osama bin Laden exhibits an understanding of US foreign policy. He expresses his views regarding the loss of life on 9/11. He also makes statements as to who, in his opinion, might be the likely perpetrator of the September 11 attacks.
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This is an important text which has not been brought to the attention of Western public opinion.
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We have highlighted key sections of this interview. It is our hope that the text of this interview, published barely a week before the onset of the war on Afghanistan, will contribute to a better understanding of the history of Al Qaeda, the role of Osama bin Laden and the tragic events of September 11, 2001.
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Michel Chossudovsky, May 9, 2011
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Full text of September 2001 Pakistani paper's "exclusive" interview with Usamah Bin-Ladin
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Ummat (in Urdu), Karachi, 28 September 2001, pp. 1 and 7. http://ummatpublication.com/2012/11/25/
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http://www.thedailybell.com/28364/Paul-Craig-...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha
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Funny Oh So Funny huh eh !

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#247306 Nov 26, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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Hint: CSI is "entertainment", not reality.
It is based upon a greatly exaggerated view of reality. Yes many of the techniques employed would help to solve crimes, yet those kind of resources only are used for a very small number of crimes. Any crime scene or accident can be viewed carefully and reveal precise details as to the sequence of events leading up to the ultimate catastrophe. Most criminals leave something behind. There are too many inconsistencies and statistical anomalies in the official 9/11 myth.

“Truth is unthinkable.”

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#247307 Nov 26, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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But it was officially tested during PMI testing for material chemistry.
Was it aluminum that melted the steel together from two separate pieces of steel to form the WTC cross?
&fe ature=related
And did NIST examine it?

Insults Are Easier
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#247308 Nov 26, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
Obviously, a man suffering from terminal lung and kidney disease
Show us any evidence of the above, or did the 20 fake pilots tell you that?
Say the Truth

Eatontown, NJ

#247309 Nov 26, 2012
WasteWater wrote:
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It is based upon a greatly exaggerated view of reality. Yes many of the techniques employed would help to solve crimes, yet those kind of resources only are used for a very small number of crimes. Any crime scene or accident can be viewed carefully and reveal precise details as to the sequence of events leading up to the ultimate catastrophe. Most criminals leave something behind. There are too many inconsistencies and statistical anomalies in the official 9/11 myth.
There are NO "anomolies" worth investigating.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#247310 Nov 26, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Was it aluminum that melted the steel together from two separate pieces of steel to form the WTC cross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =M2YGFCeRfL4XX&feature=rel ated
And did NIST examine it?
Insults Are Easier
A: You claimed it was steel, not me, I make no specific claims about the substance, BACK IT UP, show us a test that it was steel.

B: How did a thermate reaction, which lasts a minute or two tops until all the heat energy is expended account for molten steel weeks and months latter?

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#247311 Nov 26, 2012
WTC7 was demolished. The Pentagon was hit by a cruise missile. Why not help the other buildings to collapse? Clean-up or repairs would have been far more expensive. All it really took was weakening the structures below the point of impact along with severing the stairwells and elevator shafts. It was determined by experts that the building would pancake downward.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#247312 Nov 26, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Was it aluminum that melted the steel together from two separate
Neither, Bolts.

World Trade Center cross

Background

The World Trade Center was built using prefabricated parts which were bolted or welded together at the site.

In the midst of the WTC6 debris was this intact cross beam, which its discoverer believes came from the North Tower.

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This process dramatically reduced construction time and costs. Using this process, t-beams and other types of cross beams were created and used in each of the World Trade Center buildings. When the Twin Towers collapsed, it sent debris down on to 6 World Trade Center, and gutted the interior of World Trade Center 6. In the midst of the WTC6 debris was this intact cross beam, which its discoverer believes came from the North Tower.

Following the terrorist attacks, a massive operation was launched to clear the site and attempt to find any survivors amongst the rubble. On September 13 a worker at the site named Frank Silecchia discovered a 20 feet (6.1 m)[5] cross of two steel beams amongst the debris of 6 World Trade Center. Those with access to the site used the cross as a shrine of sorts, leaving messages on it or praying before it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Cent...

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#247313 Nov 26, 2012
Was the plane's autopilot tampered with and rigged? The missing black boxes would have shown this. The fact that they have gone missing is highly suspicious. Here is one possible scenario. The black boxes at the towers would have revealed the truth. The black box at the Pentagon is bogus but is said to have contained valuable information.

Too many inconsistencies here.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#247314 Nov 26, 2012
Insults Are Easier wrote:
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Was it aluminum that melted the steel together from two separate pieces of steel to form the WTC cross?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =M2YGFCeRfL4XX&feature=rel ated
And did NIST examine it?
Insults Are Easier
PS: I've seen it and took pictures, here is a much better picture.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/26/art...

http://www.snopes.com/Rumors/cross.asp

Does the look like some sort of random melting or pre-constructed part.

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#247315 Nov 26, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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There are NO "anomolies" worth investigating.
If you wish to buy the indoctrination and pablum fed to fools, that is your choice. There are too many clues left behind by the criminals who perpetrated this crime. In the very least, you should never trust our government to either protect you or to tell you the truth.

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#247316 Nov 26, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
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PS: I've seen it and took pictures, here is a much better picture.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/07/26/art...
http://www.snopes.com/Rumors/cross.asp
Does the look like some sort of random melting or pre-constructed part.
Yes

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