Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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yes

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well, im not sure

Sungod215

Winchester, KY

#246857 Nov 20, 2012
Sundog512 wrote:
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If you do anything I am sure it will be alone.
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Ohhh...another internet badass. I'm not worried one way or another, dummy.
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Apparently, I am not listening, am I?
Now what are you going to do?
Try shouting in all caps. Maybe I'll listen then.
nobody does it better
go
dog
go
Sungod215

Winchester, KY

#246858 Nov 20, 2012
Sundog512 wrote:
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Like you have any other choice, idiot.
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Translated: You were doing the best you could possibly do.
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What he really means to say is, Sunpuppy, leave me alone or I am going to cry.
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Don't worry. I won't.
;)
basking in the spot light again, eh jackass?
TWOOF

Winchester, KY

#246859 Nov 20, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
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It's hard to imagine people as dull and ignorant as you actually exist, but here you are elevator boy.
Again, you've admitted you just post crap without having a clue whether it's valid or true, you tried to use some other morons argument that rendered elevators inoperable and you're constantly being exposed as an idiot who doesn't even attempt to verify anything you post.
You epitomize the mindless nature of the church using lies to support their dogma in every post by including your idiotic tag line with no clue as to the relevance of jet fuels role in the collapses.
On the other hand, I've spoken with engineers, pilots and fire fighters and presented the inane drivel you worship from the pulpit of your keyboard and have yet to find one person who doesn't find it to be ridiculously childish and empty if fact.
I regularly criticize my government and know full well there isn't some shadowy figure that walks around with a name tag that says, "Hi! I'm the government!".
You're a ridiculous baffoon with no knowledge of anything you post about yet you mindlessly accept anything which supports your stupid conclusions as being true.
Elevator boy-sheep, you argue for flat earth everyday.
Visit the nearest post secondary institution for further confirmation.
so is there ANYTHING AT ALL in the OFFICIAL GOVIE TWOOF that you question?.....
Of course not because it is the TWOOF, the whole TWOOF, and nothing but the TWOOF, eh?

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe, NM

#246860 Nov 20, 2012
You sound angry.
Sungod215 wrote:
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nobody does it better
go
dog
go

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe, NM

#246861 Nov 20, 2012
Why so angry, Goat MacLovin?

Did your goat knock over your still again?
Sungod215 wrote:
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basking in the spot light again, eh jackass?
Projection

Winchester, KY

#246862 Nov 20, 2012
Sundog512 wrote:
You sound angry.
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Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.
SteveO

Stanton, KY

#246863 Nov 20, 2012
Sundog512 wrote:
Why so angry, Goat MacLovin?
Did your goat knock over your still again?
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Nobody does it quite the way you do,
why'd you have to be so good?
rider

Marquette, MI

#246864 Nov 20, 2012
What happened to those who “failed”, and what exactly were their “failures”?
Former Senator Gary Hart observes that,“in terms of accountability, I think this is one of the great mysteries of the last three or four years. Three thousand Americans died three years ago, and no one lost his or her job over it. A president who says that he is a strong president, and those around him say he is, did not fire anyone. Either he was misled, in which case, somebody should have been fired. Or he misled us, in which case he should be fired.”[4] Senator Charles Grassley similarly noted that “I can’t think of a single person being held accountable anywhere in government for what went on and what went wrong prior to Sept. 11. It seems that nobody in government makes any mistakes anymore.”[5] According to testimony given to Congress these statements are accurate; not one single individual within the CIA, FBI, and NSA has been reprimanded, punished, or fired for the events of 9/11.[6]
http://arabesque911.blogspot.com/2007/11/911-...
rider

Marquette, MI

#246865 Nov 20, 2012
rider

Marquette, MI

#246866 Nov 20, 2012
PLANNED BEFORE, FUTURE IDEAS

1962 - US military drafted 'Operation Northwoods', a plan to commit terror acts in US cities, kill innocent people, hijack airplanes, and plant evidence as a way to trick the public into thinking Cuba committed an unprovoked attack against the US in order to support a war against Cuba.(ABC, Natl Security Archives)

March '00 - Filming begins for The Lone Gunmen's 'Pilot' episode that depicts a US plot to crash an electronically hijacked Boeing 727 into WTC and blame foreign terrorists to provoke war and increase military's budget (KC Star), March '01 -'Pilot' episode airs on FOX TV, 6 months before attacks (TV Guide), Lone Gunmen co-producer hopes WTC attack wasn't 'somehow inspired' by anything they did.(KC Star)

rider

Marquette, MI

#246867 Nov 20, 2012
PREPARATION

1999 - NORAD starts conducting exercises in which airplanes are hijacked and crashed into targets which include the WTC and Pentagon (USA Today), April '01 - NORAD requested a war games event of having a terrorist group hijack a commercial airline and fly it into the Pentagon.(Boston Globe)

Oct '00 - Pentagon conducts emergency training exercises of a mock passenger plane crash into the Pentagon.(Army)

June '01 - Terrorist act exercise involving an explosion is conducted near the Pentagon to test first team's 'external response.'(Military District of Washington)

Aug '01 - Raytheon and US Air Force successfully land pilot-less Boeing 727 using military GPS landing system that enables ground control to take control of hijacked plane.(Der Spiegel, Raytheon)

Sept '01 - 25,000 British troops ensemble in Oman near Afghanistan for 'Operation Swift Sword' and will help US in attacking OBL.(BBC, Telegraph)

Sept '01 - US pulls the plug on Muslim websites days before 9/11.(Guardian, BBC)

Sept 10 - FEMA rescuer Tom Kenney says he was deployed to NYC late Monday night before going into action Tuesday morning, the day of the attacks.(CBS video)

Sept 11 - Fort Belvoir near the Pentagon was conducting an exercise to test the security at the base in case of a terrorist attack.(Connection Newspapers)

Sept 11 - An airport emergency operations exercise is being conducted at Fort Myer, a mile from the Pentagon.(MDW, DC Military)

Sept 12 - FEMA was scheduled to participate in an attack drill in NYC.(9/11 Panel, NYC.gov )
rider

Marquette, MI

#246868 Nov 20, 2012
June '01 - Attorney General John Ashcroft stops flying commercial aircrafts because of a 'threat assessment'.(CBS)

Sept 3 - Author Salman Rushdie given US air ban.(Ananova)

Sept 4 - An Israeli owned shipping company moves out of the WTC.(Virginian-Pilot, Real Estate Weekly)

Sept 7 - Jeb Bush puts the Florida National Guard on alert (WorldNetDaily, MyFlorida.com ), Sept 10-11 - President Bush is in FL, state that controversially handed him 2000 presidency (Telegraph), 9/11 - Jeb Bush declares state of emergency in FL immediately after 2nd tower fell (WorldNetDaily), At least 15 of the 19 hijackers have Florida ties.(Augusta Chronicle)

Sept 8 - Marine Aviation group moves further away from where explosion at the Pentagon will happen.(Leatherneck)

Sept 10 - Group of top Pentagon officials canceled travel plans for next morning because of 'security concerns'.(Newsweek)

Sept 10 - San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown receives travel warning 8 hours before attacks.(SF Chronicle)

9/11 - Employees at Israeli instant messaging company Odigo received text message warnings about attacks 2 hours prior.(Haaretz, Washington Post)

9/11 - Donald Rumsfeld predicts terrorist attack in US 2 minutes before 1st WTC plane crash (Fayetteville Observer), later predicts Pentagon crash minutes prior.(Telegraph)

9/11 - White House staff given Cipro, a full month before first cases of anthrax reported.(Washington Post)

9/11 - President Bush's cousin escaped death from the WTC thanks to a 'schedule change' the night before.(Ananova)
rider

Marquette, MI

#246869 Nov 20, 2012
9/11 - Fiduciary Trust, located in the south WTC, had scheduled an emergency drill for the day.(NY Times)

9/11 - Larry Silverstein is not in his office on the 88th floor of the North Tower because of a 'doctors appointment.'(NY Magazine)

DECOYING, STAND DOWN

Sept 9 - NORAD conducts operation 'Northern Vigilance,' planned months in advance, which deploys fighter jets to Alaskan region.(NORAD, Toronto Star)

9/11 - Three F-16 jetfighters from Andrews AFB, 15 miles from Pentagon, are flown 180 miles away for training mission in the morning.(Aviation Week)

9/11 - Andrews AFB, home to DC Air National Guard and Air Force 1 & 2, had no jetfighters on alert.(Newsday, USA Today)

9/11 - US intel agency planned exercise in the morning to simulate plane crash into government building.(Boston Globe, USA Today)

9/11 - NORAD was running war game called 'Vigilant Guardian' in which the commander in charge thought first hijacking was "part of the exercise." (Aviation Week, NY Observer)

9/11 - FAA bans takeoffs at 9:26 am for all civilian, military, or law enforcement aircraft (FAA, Time)

9/11 - Shoot-down authorization not communicated to NORAD until 28 minutes after Flight 93 crashed.(9/11 Panel, Seattle Post)

Feb '05 - Donald Rumsfeld, Gen. Myers confirm there were total of four wargames on 9/11 from Rep. McKinney questioning.(C-SPAN)
rider

Marquette, MI

#246870 Nov 20, 2012
WTC ATTACK

Jan '01 - Frank De Martini, deceased Mgr of WTC Construction & Project Mgmt, says in documentary before 9/11 that he believes WTC towers could sustain multiple hits from large jetliners, comparing it to poking a pencil through mosquito netting.(WTC-A Modern Marvel, DVD Talk)

July '01 - WTC landlord leased the entire WTC complex 6 six weeks before attacks.(CBS, Washington Times)

Twin Towers were hated, poorly designed money-losers subsides by the State and weren't torn down before because of expensive asbestos removal in which 9/11 benefited the owners by efficiently destroying the complex in a way that they didn't have to pay for any of it.(Baltimore Sun, Salon, Front Page)

Sept 6 - WTC officials recently took steps to secure towers against aerial attacks by installing bulletproof windows and fireproof doors in the 22nd-floor computer command center (Newsday)

Two week heightened security alert at WTC is lifted and bomb-sniffing dogs are abruptly removed days before 9/11.(Newsday)

Occupant in WTC says weeks before attacks they had "unusual" amount of evacuations from WTC and says he thinks "they had an inkling something was going on." (People)

9/11 - A Fiduciary Trust CEO from the South WTC is invited to early morning charity event at Offutt AFB hosted by billionaire Warren Buffett and is escorted to TV by military officers and sees 2nd plane crash into her offices.(Forbes, SF Business Times)

9/11 - A missile was reportedly launched from the Woolworth Building near the WTC.(NIST, WNBC, NY Daily)

9/11 - Rudy Giuliani says he was told South WTC was going to collapse.(ABC video)

Company hired to help clean up Ground Zero is control demolition experts, Controlled Demolition Inc.(Waste Age)

Preliminary tests show steel quality did not contribute to twin towers' collapse.(Boston Globe, Pittsburg Live)

Oct '04 - Fire in 56-story Venezuelan skyscraper spreads over 26 floors and burns for over 17 hours, but does not collapse.(CBS)

WTC Ground Zero workers claim they helped FBI find 3 of the 4 black boxes from planes that struck WTC, contradicting official accounts that none were found.(Philadelphia Daily News)
rider

Marquette, MI

#246871 Nov 20, 2012
EMT Jeff Birnbaum near the South Tower says he heard an eerie high-pitched noise and a 'popping sound' then an explosion before the top of the tower leaned toward him and started coming down.(CEE News)

Firefighter Louie Cacchioli in elevator going to 24th floor hears a bomb go off and thinks bombs were set in the building.(People)

Firefighter Edward Cachia says the South Tower gave at a lower floor then where the plane hit because they thought there was internal explosions going off from hearing successions of 'boom, boom, boom, boom' before the tower came down.(NY Times)

Fire Captain Karin Deshore says there was orange and red flashes followed by explosions that were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the WTC 2.(SF Gate)

Tom Elliott on 67th floor floor in WTC 2 felt explosion below him as plane hit, firemen going up told him of an explosion near 60th floor.(CS Monitor)

Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.'(NY Times)

Nadine Keller from her balcony in Soho, NY says she 'heard the bomb' before she saw the buildings collapse.(BBC)

EMT Joseph Lovero reports hearing 'additional explosions' to dispatcher.(WNBC)

Edmund McNally phoned his wife from 97th floor of WTC 2 following the plane crash, says he heard explosions below him.(NY Times)

Mike Pecoraro and co-worker hear a loud explosion in WTC 1 basement and believes a bomb went off after seeing major damage to the basement floors.(Chief Engineer)

Janitor William Rodriguez in WTC 1 basement hears explosion below him, then the plane crash above him seconds later, then saw severely burnt man come out of basement elevator.(CNN)

Teresa Veliz on the 47th floor of the WTC 1 feels the building shake again more violently then the shaking from the 1st crash and hears explosions going off everywhere inside the building and also hears explosions when she was outside that she was convinced bombs were 'planted all over the place' and that someone was 'sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons.'(September 11: An Oral History)

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#246872 Nov 20, 2012
rider wrote:
EMT Jeff Birnbaum near the South Tower says he heard an eerie high-pitched noise and a 'popping sound' then an explosion before the top of the tower leaned toward him and started coming down.(CEE News)
Firefighter Louie Cacchioli in elevator going to 24th floor hears a bomb go off and thinks bombs were set in the building.(People)
Firefighter Edward Cachia says the South Tower gave at a lower floor then where the plane hit because they thought there was internal explosions going off from hearing successions of 'boom, boom, boom, boom' before the tower came down.(NY Times)
Fire Captain Karin Deshore says there was orange and red flashes followed by explosions that were getting bigger going both up and down and then all around the WTC 2.(SF Gate)
Tom Elliott on 67th floor floor in WTC 2 felt explosion below him as plane hit, firemen going up told him of an explosion near 60th floor.(CS Monitor)
Commissioner Stephen Gregory along with a Lieutenant Evangelista from Ladder 146 say they both saw multiple flashes coming from the lower level of the WTC 2 right before it collapsed and mentions the flashes they saw are like what you'd see when they 'blow up a building.'(NY Times)
Nadine Keller from her balcony in Soho, NY says she 'heard the bomb' before she saw the buildings collapse.(BBC)
EMT Joseph Lovero reports hearing 'additional explosions' to dispatcher.(WNBC)
Edmund McNally phoned his wife from 97th floor of WTC 2 following the plane crash, says he heard explosions below him.(NY Times)
Mike Pecoraro and co-worker hear a loud explosion in WTC 1 basement and believes a bomb went off after seeing major damage to the basement floors.(Chief Engineer)
Janitor William Rodriguez in WTC 1 basement hears explosion below him, then the plane crash above him seconds later, then saw severely burnt man come out of basement elevator.(CNN)
Teresa Veliz on the 47th floor of the WTC 1 feels the building shake again more violently then the shaking from the 1st crash and hears explosions going off everywhere inside the building and also hears explosions when she was outside that she was convinced bombs were 'planted all over the place' and that someone was 'sitting at a control panel pushing detonator buttons.'(September 11: An Oral History)
Check this out. Bush tells about seeing the plane flying into the first building. The problem is, that footage was unavailable that day. Bush lied!!!

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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#246873 Nov 20, 2012
Bush lies like a dog.

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“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe, NM

#246874 Nov 21, 2012
Now you're confused and angry. I left out stupid because we just assume CT's are stupid by nature, but if you want, I'll include that next time.

Maybe you should check your blood pressure.
Projection wrote:
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Psychological projection or projection bias is a psychological defense mechanism where a person subconsciously denies his or her own attributes, thoughts, and emotions, which are then ascribed to the outside world, usually to other people. Thus, projection involves imagining or projecting the belief that others originate those feelings.

“Of Course I Can”

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe, NM

#246875 Nov 21, 2012
As long as there's a never ending supply of idiots like you, it's easy.

;)
SteveO wrote:
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Nobody does it quite the way you do,
why'd you have to be so good?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#246876 Nov 21, 2012
hunter wrote:
<quoted text>Hit the nail on the head!

Porkfart and the other stooges have been on here for years now trying to convince us that this was not an inside job,
They are obviously threatened by the truth movement to have been on here day after day with the most stupid of so called facts that's been ripped to bits numerous times,
When this happen's they just abuse people,This is when you have proved them WRONG!
Why are they so concerned about the world finding the truth,
After all we are supposed to be truthful and do the right thing,
Why can't they!

ps.Porkfart &co, If you cant talk the talk don't try and walk the walk!
So much irony, do little time.

And if I ask you to post one example of twoof ripping anything to shreds you'll run away with your tail between your legs...as always.

So let's see it...GO!

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