Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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yes

no

well, im not sure

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240766 Oct 4, 2012
RADEKT wrote:
I guess Off Topic Troll trash is OK from Elevator Boy ???
<quoted text>
Only when the board has you and your troll shill buds posting on it, then it's fight fire with fire, or ignore you all. I choose a little of both...
Nice resume' you got there...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TJ5J5IP...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240767 Oct 4, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, most of the first page is links debunking twoof!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Oh fontaine!
Of course a government planted web site would try and debunk the truth. What do you expect from the low lifers.
]Porkpie Hats reference links from this post....
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
The first link...of his by Joseph Nobles
Debunker Joseph Nobles has recently made a new version of his site, although it is still very much incomplete. In his latest post he has decided to address the newest site on WTC 7 made by former NASA engineer Dwain Deets. Unlike Pat Curley, who decided to examine only a few of Mr. Deets' points, Mr. Nobles has attempted to address all 7 points. Guess how many mistakes I found with his response?
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2010/07/debu...
.
Second...911 debunked has no contact source or author. telltale signs of a gov blog
http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
.
Third... one by Mark Roberts hmmmm Who is Mark Roberts? He has no contact source of his background just Gov links...
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Fourth...
Implosion world...
http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm
"Furthermore, there is no visible or audible indication that explosives or any other supplemental catalyst was used in the attack."
Do you actually believe they would say there was if the knew it?
They'd be getting a visit from the Men in Black if they said yes it imploded with explosives within in it..
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-sour...
.
Fifth....
Thomas Eager ..is a MIT welder...Materials processing and manufacturing; special interests in welding and joining of metals, ceramics and electronic materials; deformation processing; alternate manufacturing processes; manufacturing management; materials systems analysis; selection of materials and failure analysis.
and Christopher Musso is a graduate research student.
I/w..
So they gave their 'opinions' of why the collapse took place, according to computer models shown to them by NIST. Were they on the ground on Sept 11 2001 doing their research? Hardly
.
Sixth
Enrico Manireri..... Who is he?
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Seventh
Scientific American
Stephen Ashley...I speak to scientists and engineers, then translate their concepts and explanations into stories that average readers can readily understand. I also convert expert-written manuscripts into magazine articles.
Specialties
Writing, Editing, Interviewing, News Editing
.
Disclaimer: on the JOM site
The opinions and statements expressed in JOM are those of the authors only and are not necessarily those of TMS or the editorial staff. No confirmations or endorsements are intended or implied.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/jomhome....
.
I/w...
When people are asked how something happened they give their opinions by what they were told and shown.
Fire forensics is a good example of guess work.
If a building is burned to the ground, the inspectors can give you a guess of why, but they cannot tell you for a certainty it that it was a frayed wire or a magnifying glass left on a window table that caused the fire to begin with.
.
Sorry P-pie you have shown nothing to prove the 911 truthers wrong on any of your govie links.

And just who is the creator of 911 myths.com ? The site has no author, no contact. Typical disinfo site.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240768 Oct 4, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, most of the first page is links debunking twoof!
Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Oh fontaine!
Of course a government planted web site would try and debunk the truth. What do you expect from the low lifers.
Porkpie Hats reference links from this post....
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
The first link...of his by Joseph Nobles
.
Debunker Joseph Nobles has recently made a new version of his site, although it is still very much incomplete. In his latest post he has decided to address the newest site on WTC 7 made by former NASA engineer Dwain Deets. Unlike Pat Curley, who decided to examine only a few of Mr. Deets' points, Mr. Nobles has attempted to address all 7 points. Guess how many mistakes I found with his response?
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2010/07/debu...
.
Second...911 debunked has no contact source or author. telltale signs of a gov blog
http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
.
Third... one by Mark Roberts hmmmm Who is Mark Roberts? He has no contact source of his background just Gov links...
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Fourth...
Implosion world...
http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm
"Furthermore, there is no visible or audible indication that explosives or any other supplemental catalyst was used in the attack."
Do you actually believe they would say there was if the knew it?
They'd be getting a visit from the Men in Black if they said yes it imploded with explosives within in it..
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-sour...
.
Fifth....
Thomas Eager ..is a MIT welder...Materials processing and manufacturing; special interests in welding and joining of metals, ceramics and electronic materials; deformation processing; alternate manufacturing processes; manufacturing management; materials systems analysis; selection of materials and failure analysis.
and Christopher Musso is a graduate research student.
I/w..
So they gave their 'opinions' of why the collapse took place, according to computer models shown to them by NIST. Were they on the ground on Sept 11 2001 doing their research? Hardly
.
Sixth
Enrico Manireri..... Who is he?
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Seventh
Scientific American
Stephen Ashley...I speak to scientists and engineers, then translate their concepts and explanations into stories that average readers can readily understand. I also convert expert-written manuscripts into magazine articles.
Specialties
Writing, Editing, Interviewing, News Editing
.
Disclaimer: on the JOM site
The opinions and statements expressed in JOM are those of the authors only and are not necessarily those of TMS or the editorial staff. No confirmations or endorsements are intended or implied.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/jomhome....
.
I/w...
When people are asked how something happened they give their opinions by what they were told and shown.
Fire forensics is a good example of guess work.
If a building is burned to the ground, the inspectors can give you a guess of why, but they cannot tell you for a certainty it that it was a frayed wire or a magnifying glass left on a window table that caused the fire to begin with.
.
Sorry P-pie you have shown nothing to prove the 911 truthers wrong on any of your govie links.
.
And just who is the creator of 911 myths.com ? The site has no author, no contact. Typical disinfo site.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#240769 Oct 4, 2012
Yea, Not seeing proof, BENEFIT BOY!
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
You think elevator shafts don't get sealed?
https://www.google.com/search...
.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240770 Oct 4, 2012
Too funny!

Everything that debunks twoof, whether it's an engineering journal or a privately run website that just links to the facts, is a gubberment plant in the world of vulgar-tommy.

He's just the vulgar-ee-ist!

Of course there's no evidence for it in his wall of irrelevant text...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240771 Oct 4, 2012

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240772 Oct 4, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
**** TROLL SWARM****
USE CAUTION AHEAD
AVOID FLYING BULLSHIT.
$$$$$$$$$$
End of message.
Especially when that flying b/s is coming from a flying.....
https://www.google.com/search...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240773 Oct 4, 2012
So fontaine, why spend every waking hour here instead of searching for relevant experts to put your twoofs to the test?

Oh ya, because twoof=/=truth.

It's all about agenda.

Again, anyone who has any questions about the NIST reports, fires or flying the planes, please find relevant professionals in your area to discuss those questions.

Oh twoof, how you've failed!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240774 Oct 4, 2012
Timesten wrote:
So prove that by disproving what's on those sites as well as what many of us have said by putting your twoofs to the test.

Go visit a fire station, some engineers and pilots and have them confirm your phony bs.

Oh and google searches only prove your ineptness in carrying on a discussion vulgar-tommy...and " iranfiles.com "?

Are you serious?

Hahahahahahaha!!!

Oh truck driver of many vulgar aliases, you make me laugh!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#240775 Oct 4, 2012
Still waiting for proof on that sealed elevator claim.
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Especially when that flying b/s is coming from a flying.....
https://www.google.com/search...
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#240776 Oct 4, 2012
Disinfo mongoloid web sites

http://fontainesauction.net/

“Bright Waters House ”

Since: Jun 07

Manhattan, New York

#240777 Oct 4, 2012
Mark Roberts is a tour guide in NYC IMBECILE !!!!!
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course a government planted web site would try and debunk the truth. What do you expect from the low lifers.
Porkpie Hats reference links from this post....
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TSBMT04...
The first link...of his by Joseph Nobles
.
Debunker Joseph Nobles has recently made a new version of his site, although it is still very much incomplete. In his latest post he has decided to address the newest site on WTC 7 made by former NASA engineer Dwain Deets. Unlike Pat Curley, who decided to examine only a few of Mr. Deets' points, Mr. Nobles has attempted to address all 7 points. Guess how many mistakes I found with his response?
http://911debunkers.blogspot.com/2010/07/debu...
.
Second...911 debunked has no contact source or author. telltale signs of a gov blog
http://www.debunking911.com/index.html
.
Third... one by Mark Roberts hmmmm Who is Mark Roberts? He has no contact source of his background just Gov links...
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Fourth...
Implosion world...
http://www.implosionworld.com/wtc.htm
"Furthermore, there is no visible or audible indication that explosives or any other supplemental catalyst was used in the attack."
Do you actually believe they would say there was if the knew it?
They'd be getting a visit from the Men in Black if they said yes it imploded with explosives within in it..
http://www.computerweekly.com/blogs/open-sour...
.
Fifth....
Thomas Eager ..is a MIT welder...Materials processing and manufacturing; special interests in welding and joining of metals, ceramics and electronic materials; deformation processing; alternate manufacturing processes; manufacturing management; materials systems analysis; selection of materials and failure analysis.
and Christopher Musso is a graduate research student.
I/w..
So they gave their 'opinions' of why the collapse took place, according to computer models shown to them by NIST. Were they on the ground on Sept 11 2001 doing their research? Hardly
.
Sixth
Enrico Manireri..... Who is he?
https://www.google.com/search...
.
Seventh
Scientific American
Stephen Ashley...I speak to scientists and engineers, then translate their concepts and explanations into stories that average readers can readily understand. I also convert expert-written manuscripts into magazine articles.
Specialties
Writing, Editing, Interviewing, News Editing
.
Disclaimer: on the JOM site
The opinions and statements expressed in JOM are those of the authors only and are not necessarily those of TMS or the editorial staff. No confirmations or endorsements are intended or implied.
http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/jomhome....
.
I/w...
When people are asked how something happened they give their opinions by what they were told and shown.
Fire forensics is a good example of guess work.
If a building is burned to the ground, the inspectors can give you a guess of why, but they cannot tell you for a certainty it that it was a frayed wire or a magnifying glass left on a window table that caused the fire to begin with.
.
Sorry P-pie you have shown nothing to prove the 911 truthers wrong on any of your govie links.
.
And just who is the creator of 911 myths.com ? The site has no author, no contact. Typical disinfo site.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#240778 Oct 4, 2012
Charlie Sheen wrote:
Yea, Not seeing proof, BENEFIT BOY!
<quoted text>
In some low and passive energy houses or buildings with improved
energy efficiency, building shell and lift shafts are so tightly sealed that natural, uncontrolled air flows are almost excluded.

The closing of these elevator vents would permit the elevator shaft to be pressurized and prevent the flow of smoke and heat into the elevator shafts during a fire.
http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire92/PDF/f920...

Section L also requires that buildings are
airtight and the provision of a ventilation opening at
the head of the shaft will cause conditioned air to
be drawn from the building, through the shafts and
wasted to atmosphere. With buildings where shaft
ventilation has been provided, the vent opening or
all the entrances have to be sealed up to test that
the building is airtight.
http://www.cibseliftsgroup.org/docs/Elevator%...
.
And how would a shaft get pressurized? Hmmmmm seal it air tight would be a good theory huh?
.
And where did all this Jet fuel come from, seeing most of it burned up on impact?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RJ1jqXXTkRU/UFSCgMz...
.
http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac66/total...
.

.
And what was making these noises described by the firefighters here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.
And that was long after the initial impact.
.
more...
http://www.youtube.com/results...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240779 Oct 4, 2012
RADEKT wrote:
Mark Roberts is a tour guide in NYC IMBECILE !!!!!
<quoted text>
Now who owns "serendippy"?

That's a site vulgar-tommy uses quite a bit...then there's his links to white supremacist sites.

Just makes one laugh!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240780 Oct 4, 2012
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
In some low and passive energy houses or buildings with improved
energy efficiency, building shell and lift shafts are so tightly sealed that natural, uncontrolled air flows are almost excluded.
The closing of these elevator vents would permit the elevator shaft to be pressurized and prevent the flow of smoke and heat into the elevator shafts during a fire.
http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire92/PDF/f920...
Section L also requires that buildings are
airtight and the provision of a ventilation opening at
the head of the shaft will cause conditioned air to
be drawn from the building, through the shafts and
wasted to atmosphere. With buildings where shaft
ventilation has been provided, the vent opening or
all the entrances have to be sealed up to test that
the building is airtight.
http://www.cibseliftsgroup.org/docs/Elevator%...
.
And how would a shaft get pressurized? Hmmmmm seal it air tight would be a good theory huh?
.
And where did all this Jet fuel come from, seeing most of it burned up on impact?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RJ1jqXXTkRU/UFSCgMz...
.
http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac66/total...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =VbA12IJuw3QXX
.
And what was making these noises described by the firefighters here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.
And that was long after the initial impact.
.
more...
http://www.youtube.com/results...
Blogs and youtube links vulgar-tommy?

Wasn't it you that claimed youtube is owned by Jews?

Are you having fun kicking yourself in the head today?

Have you tried contacting anyone from a fire station or university engineering program to discuss your foolish drivel?

Has your family seen what a putz you play on the internet yet?

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240781 Oct 4, 2012
And yes vulgar-tommy, elevator shafts can be sealed against fire...but that doesn't address the idiocy your little scientifically illiterate buddy tried to pass off as fact.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#240782 Oct 4, 2012
What's even funnier is your claim, pig pie haq, that the alleged hijacked planes titanium engine parts turned to dust when the WTC towers exploded, so they could not be identified by serial numbers.
.
That was a whale of a whopper eh!
.
What's even funnier is
.
Jet Fuel hah ha ha ah ah
.
That's A Good One eh

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Olds, Canada

#240783 Oct 4, 2012
Ya just have to wonder how Tommy's ranting has hurt his brothers business.

I mean, if someone googles "Fontaines Auctions" they'll most likely end up seeing this.

I don't know John Fontaine, but I feel for the guy.

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#240784 Oct 4, 2012
Porkpie Hat wrote:
And yes vulgar-tommy, elevator shafts can be sealed against fire...but that doesn't address the idiocy your little scientifically illiterate buddy tried to pass off as fact.
The only idiocy occurred when you claimed that the elevator cars could not go up or down when the elevator shafts were sealed and pressurized.
.
How in hell did you survive 5th grade? Betcha got your ass kicked most every day.
.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
.
That's A Good One eh !
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#240785 Oct 4, 2012
Were you born stupid or was it a skillset you worked on.

That says nothing about airtight elevators.
To be airtight one would need not pressurization and since the shafts were compromised they could not be pressurized.

LMFAO uncontrolled air flows "are almost excluded"
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
In some low and passive energy houses or buildings with improved
energy efficiency, building shell and lift shafts are so tightly sealed that natural, uncontrolled air flows are almost excluded.
The closing of these elevator vents would permit the elevator shaft to be pressurized and prevent the flow of smoke and heat into the elevator shafts during a fire.
http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/fire92/PDF/f920...
Section L also requires that buildings are
airtight and the provision of a ventilation opening at
the head of the shaft will cause conditioned air to
be drawn from the building, through the shafts and
wasted to atmosphere. With buildings where shaft
ventilation has been provided, the vent opening or
all the entrances have to be sealed up to test that
the building is airtight.
http://www.cibseliftsgroup.org/docs/Elevator%...
.
And how would a shaft get pressurized? Hmmmmm seal it air tight would be a good theory huh?
.
And where did all this Jet fuel come from, seeing most of it burned up on impact?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RJ1jqXXTkRU/UFSCgMz...
.
http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/ac66/total...
.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =VbA12IJuw3QXX
.
And what was making these noises described by the firefighters here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
.
And that was long after the initial impact.
.
more...
http://www.youtube.com/results...
Timesten wrote:
<quoted text>
And how would a shaft get pressurized? Hmmmmm seal it air tight would be a good theory huh?
LMFAO, A seal does not make them airtight nor pressurized, you might look into bio-hazard suits to get the idea, in such a case if they were airtight you would blow up like a Goodyear blimp.

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