Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Was 9/11 a conspiracy??

Created by djhixx on Oct 13, 2007

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well, im not sure

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#234006 Aug 4, 2012
yet wrote:
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do you know of any others?
Identifying the hijackers

The FBI was able to identify the 19 hijackers within a matter of days as few suspects made any effort to conceal their names on flight, credit card, and other records.[2]
Identical letters

Three of the hijackers carried copies of an identical handwritten letter[3][4](in Arabic) that was found in three separate locations: the first, in a suitcase of hijacker Mohamed Atta that did not make the connection to American Airlines Flight 11 that crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade Center; the second, in a vehicle parked at Washington Dulles International Airport that belonged to hijacker Nawaf al-Hazmi; and the third at the crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.

According to the testimony before the House Intelligence Subcommittee on Terrorism and Homeland Defense on October 3, 2001 given by J. T. Caruso—the Deputy Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division, "translations of the letter indicate an alarming willingness to die on the part of the hijackers."[5]
Passports recovered

According to testimony by Susan Ginsberg, a staff member of the National Commission on Terrorist attacks upon the United States, in the January 26, 2004 Public Hearing:

"Four of the hijackers' passports have survived in whole or in part. Two were recovered from the crash site of United Airlines flight 93 in Pennsylvania. These are the passports of Ziad Jarrah and Saeed al Ghamdi. One belonged to a hijacker on American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Satam al Suqami. A passerby picked it up and gave it to a NYPD detective shortly before the World Trade Center towers collapsed. A fourth passport was recovered from luggage that did not make it from a Portland flight to Boston on to the connecting flight which was American Airlines flight 11. This is the passport of Abdul Aziz al Omari."

"In addition to these four, some digital copies of the hijackers passports were recovered in post-9/11 operations. Two of the passports that have survived, those of Satam al Suqami and Abdul Aziz al Omari, were clearly doctored. To avoid getting into classified detail, we will just state that these were manipulated in a fraudulent manner in ways that have been associated with al Qaeda."

WTC site

The passport of hijacker Satam al-Suqami was found a few blocks from the World Trade Center.[6][7]
Flight 93

According to the 9/11 Commission, the passports of two of the hijackers Flight 93 were also found intact in the aircraft's debris field.[8]
Atta's luggage

The doctored passport of hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari was found in Mohamed Atta’s left-behind luggage.[8]

When examining Mohamed Atta's left-behind luggage, the FBI found important clues about the hijackers and their plans. His luggage contained papers that revealed the identity of all 19 hijackers, and provided information about their plans, motives, and backgrounds.[9] The FBI was able to determine details such as dates of birth, known and/or possible residences, visa status, and specific identity of the suspected pilots. None of these documents have been scrutinized by independent legal experts.[10]
Linking the hijackers to al Qaeda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PENTTBOM

Jet fuel ha ha ha ha

You know the rest !

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#234007 Aug 4, 2012
WTC site

The passport of hijacker Satam al-Suqami was found a few blocks from the World Trade Center.[6][7]
Flight 93

According to the 9/11 Commission, the passports of two of the hijackers Flight 93 were also found intact in the aircraft's debris field.[8]
Atta's luggage

The doctored passport of hijacker Abdulaziz Alomari was found in Mohamed Atta’s left-behind luggage.[8]

When examining Mohamed Atta's left-behind luggage, the FBI found important clues about the hijackers and their plans. His luggage contained papers that revealed the identity of all 19 hijackers, and provided information about their plans, motives, and backgrounds.[9] The FBI was able to determine details such as dates of birth, known and/or possible residences, visa status, and specific identity of the suspected pilots. None of these documents have been scrutinized by independent legal experts.[10]
Linking the hijackers to al Qaeda

The investigators were quickly able to link the 19 men to the terrorist organization al Qaeda, by accessing their intelligence agency files. The New York Times reported on September 12 that: "Authorities said they had also identified accomplices in several cities who had helped plan and execute Tuesday’s attacks. Officials said they knew who these people were and important biographical details about many of them. They prepared biographies of each identified member of the hijack teams, and began tracing the recent movements of the men." FBI agents in Florida investigating the hijackers quickly "descended on flight schools, neighborhoods and restaurants in pursuit of leads." At one flight school, "students said investigators were there within hours of Tuesday’s attacks."[11] The Washington Post later reported that "In the hours after Tuesday’s bombings, investigators searched their files on [Satam] Al Suqami and [Ahmed] Alghamdi, noted the pair’s ties to [Nabil] al-Marabh and launched a hunt for him."[12]

On September 27, 2001, the FBI released photos of the 19 hijackers, along with information about the possible nationalities and aliases of many.[13]

On the day of the attacks, U.S. intelligence agencies also intercepted communications that pointed to Osama bin Laden.[14] It was quickly asserted that Osama bin Laden was responsible for the attacks, and other suspects were ruled out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PENTTBOM

Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha

Thatn a Goodn!
cheer up courteously

Plymouth, NH

#234008 Aug 4, 2012
Say the Truth wrote:
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No, da SCHWARTZ!
his schwartz blinds him, or maybe it's his blind hatred of the us...either way he's blind,deaf and du..,..
cheer up courteously

Plymouth, NH

#234009 Aug 4, 2012
A Tree

Modesto, CA

#234010 Aug 4, 2012
I'm thirsty.

_Abraxas_

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#234011 Aug 4, 2012
DARK ET wrote:
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Is the moron a part of the engine???
There are many problems and inconsistencies with your statement:
WTC 1 (north tower) was hit on its north facade. Murray street is 3 blocks north of that which means that the engine would have had to 'bounce' off the building (as per STT) and travel three blocks BACKWARDS to end up on Murray street.
WTC 2 (south tower) was hit on its south facade and if you look on an overhead map you will see that this is about 7 blocks north of the impact zone. If you look at the trajectory of the airplane parts 'shooting' out the other side of WTC 2 it clearly does not appear to have been able to travel a full 7 blocks while evading the buildings in its path to land on Murray St.
You don't need to have a knowledge of physics to understand that an engine ending up on Murray St. is impossible. Common sense and a knowledge of basic geometry is all you need and I think even a MORON like you (from Snodfart University???) should be able to grasp these concepts.
So which engine ended up on Murray St? The one that 'bounced' backwards off building 1 or the one that shot through building 2 and flew 7 blocks in the air weaving its way through the other buildings?

You dont even have to understand the energy in a heavy piece of equipment traveling nearly 500 mph to know it in fact did land exactly where it was found.
engine

Lebanon, KY

#234012 Aug 4, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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You dont even have to understand the energy in a heavy piece of equipment traveling nearly 500 mph to know it in fact did land exactly where it was found.
what did that engine that was found on Murray St. look like? Your fellow bwunker STT claims it should have shattered into tiny pieces upon impact with the tower, so which is it? You guys need to get your stories straight...didn't they teach you that in bwunker school?
engine

Lebanon, KY

#234013 Aug 4, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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You dont even have to understand the energy in a heavy piece of equipment traveling nearly 500 mph to know it in fact did land exactly where it was found.
so you are claiming that engine was from the plane that hit WTC 1 in which case it 'bounced' three blocks backwards or was it from the plane that hit WTC 2 in which case it shot through the building and went 7 blocks and weaved its way through the other buildings to end up on Murray St.
So that accounts for one engine, what about the other three? Where did they end up and where were they found?

_Abraxas_

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#234014 Aug 4, 2012
engine wrote:
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what did that engine that was found on Murray St. look like? Your fellow bwunker STT claims it should have shattered into tiny pieces upon impact with the tower, so which is it? You guys need to get your stories straight...didn't they teach you that in bwunker school?
If it was up your wazoo you'd know what it looked like.

http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5533/Jet_engine_on_...
engine

Lebanon, KY

#234015 Aug 4, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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If it was up your wazoo you'd know what it looked like.
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5533/Jet_engine_on_...
from the looks of that engine it seems it should be pretty easy to identify from which plane it came from. So which one was it, and again, what happened to the other three engines?
engine

Lebanon, KY

#234016 Aug 4, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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If it was up your wazoo you'd know what it looked like.
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5533/Jet_engine_on_...
you must be speaking from experience, did they pull that engine out of your wazoo?

The Gloop

Since: Sep 08

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#234017 Aug 4, 2012
engine wrote:
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from the looks of that engine it seems it should be pretty easy to identify from which plane it came from. So which one was it, and again, what happened to the other three engines?
Engine weevils most likely.
A Tree

Tracy, CA

#234018 Aug 4, 2012
Gloop?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

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#234019 Aug 4, 2012
engine wrote:
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from the looks of that engine it seems it should be pretty easy to identify from which plane it came from. So which one was it, and again, what happened to the other three engines?
Again, they turned to dust when the building exploded.

Discussion of the Church and Murray engine.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...

Probably dumped out of a black SUV during the commotion.

Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha

That's also a good one
just wondering

Lebanon, KY

#234020 Aug 4, 2012
_Abraxas_ wrote:
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If it was up your wazoo you'd know what it looked like.
http://img94.exs.cx/img94/5533/Jet_engine_on_...
how did that engine get BEHIND the pole and leave the pole still standing?
engine

Lebanon, KY

#234021 Aug 4, 2012
The Gloop wrote:
<quoted text>Engine weevils most likely.
wow Gloop, I never though you actually formed sentences. What drove you to this uncharacteristic response?
Dr Order ZZ

Lebanon, KY

#234022 Aug 4, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
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Again, they turned to dust when the building exploded.
Discussion of the Church and Murray engine.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
Probably dumped out of a black SUV during the commotion.
Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha
That's also a good one
kind of like the landing gear that was also planted on the sidewalk and cordoned off. The black SUVs were busy that day.
You know they could have at least planted 3 more engines just to be consistent with their story. Instead they have to get the bwunkers to convince everyone that one engine survived while the others disintegrated. Bwunking sure is tough work isn't it?

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#234024 Aug 4, 2012
De bwunkers got der bwunkins cut out for em doan dey dats fer sure know wad im sayin!

Jet fuel ha ha ha ha

Dats a goodn

_Abraxas_

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#234025 Aug 4, 2012
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
De bwunkers got der bwunkins cut out for em doan dey dats fer sure know wad im sayin!
Jet fuel ha ha ha ha
Dats a goodn
That you are a imbecile ?

Since: Nov 11

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#234026 Aug 5, 2012
RADEKT wrote:
and why are you posting on this obscure board !?!?!?!?
it's not like you can change anybody's opinion !?!?!?!?!
so why nail yourself to an inconsequential board like Topix, just to support a fringe view?
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I refer you to my previous answer.

Noted, that you (unsurprisingly) couldn't answer my question... instead preferring to throw it straight back at me.

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