should soft drugs be legalized?

[cypriotNot fake tc]

+drug use(one time or more):
usa 37%
Netherlands 17%

+drug related deaths:
usa 40 to 60 per million
Netherlands 2.4 per million

+drug war cost (not including prison system or black market cost of drugs):
usa 160 billion per year
netherlands few hudread of millions

+drug prisoners(addicts and traders):
usa 600 000
Netherlands few hundreds

+drug money related crime incomes:
usa 400-500 billions per year.
netherlands few hudread of millions from illegal drugs.

+soft drug related deaths usa :
marijuana 0 in direct relation
hashish 0 in direct relation
alcohol 100 000
cigarettes 500 000
(fatalities from soft drugs may exist in combination with other factors , but even so numberer in few hudreads if not less.)

+state incomes from drug use taxes:
Netherlands 500 million
usa equivalent sum 10 billion
usa equivalent sum base on consumption as much as 30 billion

+pot related tourism in Netherlands:
several millions.

[Freemind]

Other than pot, what is considered a "soft" drug? Meth? Cocaine? Heroin? I could possibly get on board with legalizing weed, but everything else I can think of off the top of my head is just too dangerous to be legal.

[cypriotNot fake tc]

drug are not responsible for deaths per se,but th conditions of that drug use take place.
most drug related deaths are due to intoxication and drugs allergic shocks from overdose.
netherlands system philsophy was originaly to save lives, and that it did.
in the same philosophy line drug addicts are viewed as patients .
Methadone maintenance is available on demand. In 1998, a number of Dutch cities started experimenting with prescribing heroin, in combination with methadone, on medical grounds, meaning that the government allows use of heroin and methadone substitutes under medical supervision.

this practice resulted in the elimination of:
-hiv or hepatitis spreading from drug use.
-elimination of deaths of drug addicts in the medical proscription programs.(there are still drug related deaths from unsupervised use)
-crime reductions, drugs are the primal income of organize crime along prostitution.(which is also legal and supervised by the government)
-averting family and social problems ,from the economic collapse of families due to drug user members.
-minimize the psychological effects of drug use.

drug addicts are normal people with works and families , that receive their dose or substitutes , along with the government and medical services effort to enable them to abandon use.

[Duh]

Yes i think so....you make some good points and it would also stop kids having to deal with drug dealers!

[cypriotNot fake tc]

Duh wrote:

Yes i think so....you make some good points and it would also stop kids having to deal with drug dealers!

true.
much of the teenage prostitution interrelate with drug addiction of teenagers.

[Alyssa]

Like in the NL where it's legal to buy and smoke weed in the coffeshops, it isn't allowed to drink alcohol.

So ppl have to decide if they would rather smoke or drink in the public. Of course it's possible to just buy it go home and get drinks lol

so i say yes for legalizing weed

[cypriotNot fake tc]

Alyssa wrote:

Like in the NL where it's legal to buy and smoke weed in the coffeshops, it isn't allowed to drink alcohol.
So ppl have to decide if they would rather smoke or drink in the public. Of course it's possible to just buy it go home and get drinks lol
so i say yes for legalizing weed

who says so?
of course alcohol it is allowed ,and exist in every entertainment center.

[Alyssa]

cypriotNot fake tc wrote:

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who says so?
of course alcohol it is allowed ,and exist in every entertainment center.

Well I was livin in Amsterdam and there are no pubs where u can drink and smoke.

Of course u can drink alcohol, but in the pubs u can only buy weed legally - no alcohol allowed there.

I have no clue what u mean with an entertainment center.