Calling all White People

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#3332
Apr 4, 2013
 
RFD ---- Regarding Mixed Martial Arts (MMA).--- For many, many years now, the striking disciplines have been dominant. With fighters utilizing the sprawl & brawl.

Even fighters whose initial disciplines were Freestyle Wrestling.--- They all HAD to incorporate striking disciples. Whether it was boxing. Or kickboxing. Or, Muay Thai.

The most notable examples being these respective fighters.--- Randy Couture, Dan Henderson, Rashad Evans, Fedor Emelianenko, Chael Sonnen, Jon Fitch, Brock Lesnar & Cain Velasquez.

For many years now, in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA), fighters who are primarily grounded in the striking disciplines. Utilizing the sprawl & brawl.--- Have been dominant.

Here are the most notable examples. In no particular order.--- Anderson Silva, Mirko Filipovic, Chuck Liddell, Georges St-Pierre, Lyoto Machida & Alistair Overeem.

I list these examples, to show.---- That had Muhammad Ali entered into Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) competition.--- Since Muhammad was well trained & very experienced in boxing.--- Ali could have held his own in Mixed Martial Arts competition.

Muhammad could very well have become a champion in Mixed Martial Arts.

Johnny

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#3333
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond --- In regards to your previous post to me,#3261.--- You said "joe louis was a far better fighter than marciano".-- This could be looked at several, different ways.

Joe was taller than Rocky. So, Joes stance was different than Rockys. Since Joe was taller & hand longer arms than Rocky.--- Joes defense & offensive attack was different.

In terms of pure ring technique.--- Joe would probably rank higher than Rocky.

Since Joes boxing style was the boxer-puncher style.

But, Rocky had these advantages over Joe.---

1. Rocky had more chin strength.

2. Rocky had a way greater threshold of pain.

3. Rocky had more punching power.

4. Rocky had a more intensive offensive attack.

5. Rocky had more adaptability in the ring.

In regards to finding a way to win.
Johnny

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#3334
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond ---- You said "ali was the sugar ray robinson of the heavyweights".--- Muhammad Alis boxing style was master-boxer style.

Sugar Ray Robinsons boxing style was boxer-puncher style.

Sugar Ray Robinsons boxing style was way more atuned to Joe Louis' style.

You said "louis was too slow footed...".--- Clearly, Muhammad Ali was faster than Joe.

But, Ken Norton also, was slower than Muhammad.

Look at ALL of the trouble which Ken gave Ali.

You said "joe had very fast hands and punched in combinations".--- Correct.
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#3335
Apr 4, 2013
 
Poor jealous Africans.If you dont like it go back to your homeyland!
Johnny

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Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond --- You said "but ali would have made him pay by moving around the ring and landing jabs, hooks and right crosses from different angles".---I'm not so sure about this. I'll expound upon this in a bit.

You said "the way billy conn made louis work".--- True, Billy Conn did make Joe work.

Billy was WAY lighter than Muhammad Ali.

For Billys first fight against Joe Louis.--- Billy weighed only 174 pounds.

For Billys second fight againt Joe.--- Billy weighed only 182 pounds.

So, Billy was WAY lighter than Muhammad.

Subsequently, comparing Billy Conn with Muhammad Ali is not a good comparison.
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#3337
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond --- You said "but conn got stupid and tried to slug and got blown out too".--- True.

In their first fight, Billy shook Joe in the 13th round. Billy went in, for the knockout or technical knockout. Joe caught Billy coming in.

When a fighter fought against Joe Louis.--- The other fighter couldn't afford even one mistake.

In Billys second meeting against Joe.--- Joe totally dominated over Billy. Knocking Billy out.
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#3338
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond ---- You said "but louis showed against walcott and charles that he could be outboxed if the other guy knew how to use the ring and punch from different angles".---

Throwing up Joe Louis' fights against Jersey Joe Walcott & Ezzard Charles.--- Are not good indicators. Compared to a hypothetical matchup of Joe Louis vs. Muhammad Ali.

Here are reasons as to why.--- Joes first fight against Jersey Joe.---

Jersey Joe was 6 feet tall. On the day of the fight, his weight was at 194 1/4 pounds.

Joe was 6 foot, 2 inches tall. On the day of the fight, his weight was at 211 1/2 pounds.

Jersey Joe, being shorter, utilizing his boxer-puncher style.--- Was VERY problematic for Joe.

Jersey Joe was shorter & lighter than Muhammad Ali.

Since Jersey Joe Walcott was shorter & lighter than Muhammad. Jersey Joes boxer-puncher style.--

Had Jersey Joe fought Ali.--- Jersey Joe would have been VERY problematic for Muhammad Ali.
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#3339
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond --- You using the Joe Louis vs. Ezzard Charles fight as an indicator.---

Granted, when Joe fought Ezzard, Ezzard won. By a 15 round decision.

Why this is not a good indicator.--- For this respective fight, Ezzard was 29 years old.

Joe was 36 years old.

But, way, way more so, Joe was WAY more battle worn. Compared to what Ezzard was.

Ezzard was 6 feet tall. His weight on the day of this fight was 184 1/2 pounds.

So, Ezzard was shorter than Muhammad Ali. Ezzard was much lighter than Muhammad.

You using the outcome of the Joe Louis vs. Ezzard Charles fight.--- As an indicator, for an outcome, for a hypothetical matchup of Joe Louis vs. Muhammad Ali.--- Is not a good example.
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#3340
Apr 4, 2013
 
Desmond ---- You said "also, louis was only 6 foot tall".--- Actually, Joe was 6 foot, 2 inches tall.

So, Joe was only 1 inch shorter than Muhammad Ali.

You said "and not as fast as ali".--- True, Joe didn't have Muhammads speed.

But, neither did Ken Norton.

Look at ALL of the problems which Ken Norton caused for Muhammad Ali. In their 3 fights.

Ken Norton had NOWHERES near the punching power. Such as what Joe Louis had.

Ken Norton had NOWHERES near the boxing technique. Such as what Joe Louis had.

Ken Norton had NOWHERES near the punch combinations. Such as what Joe Louis had.

Ken Norton had NOWHERES near the stamina &/or endurance. Such as what Joe Louis had.

Since Ken Norton gave Ali A LOT of problems.--- Joe Louis' height, boxer-puncher style, punch combinations, punching power, stamina & endurance.---

Would have been a NIGHTMARE for Muhammad Ali.
Adam

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#3341
Apr 5, 2013
 
Multiculturalism” is a program that is forced to every White countries.

“Multiculturalism” is a program to turn EVERY White country into a non-White country.

This IS geNOcide. WHITE geNOcide.

If you are White, and you object to your own geNOcide, you are called a RACIST!

Well guess what, my people, White people, are catching on very quickly to the following two things:

1 – Multiculturalism is a code for White geNOcide.

2 – Anti-racist is a code for anti-White.
RFD

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#3342
Apr 5, 2013
 
Truth wrote:
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Hey you pasty bastard, in spite of your dirty tricks and racism black people are sitting across the table from your sickly looking asses in the boardroom. We own homes we own businesses we are educated and living better than you ever could. So who looks like the loser now!??? Slavery may have ended 147 years ago, but jim crow in the south ended 50 yrs ago and we are still successful. AND any success we've had has been truly earned not like you lazy white mofos who whine and expect everything for nothing. I work with a bunch of lazy *ss white girls who complain about everything. They refuse to work but expect to be paid the most because they are white. You are delusional nutcase like most white ppl which is why ppl can't stand you!!!!!!!!!!
Black babies are cheaper than monkeys..

http://www.naturalnews.com/039556_anthrax_vac...

I call this one nik nok patty wack'...

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RFD

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#3343
Apr 5, 2013
 
Johnny wrote:
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This is the third time now on this thread that you have thrown up this charge.
Oh come now, little fella.
Everyone knows that Germany is a common place for proxies. Are you using JOnDo,,hmm?
RFD

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#3344
Apr 5, 2013
 
Johnny wrote:
Ken Norton had NOWHERES near the punching power. Such as what Joe Louis had.
HOw do you know that? Have you been punched by both?
Adam

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#3345
Apr 5, 2013
 
Homosexuality is a forced program upon every and only white&#65279; countries.

Multiculturalism is a program to turn every white and christian country into a non-White country.

This IS geNOcide. WHITE geNOcide.

If you are White, and you object to your own geNOcide, you are called a RACIST!
if you are straigt and white you object to your own geNOcide,you are called a racist homophobe
Well guess what, my people, White people, are catching on very quickly to the following two things:

Multiculturalism is a code for White geNOcide.

Anti-racist is a code for anti-White.

Homosexuality is a code for world demise.
Adam

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#3346
Apr 5, 2013
 
Multiculturalism is a program to turn every white and christian country into a non-White country.

This IS geNOcide. WHITE geNOcide.

If you are White, and you object to your own geNOcide, you are called a RACIST!
if you are straigt and white you object to your own geNOcide,you are called a racist homophobe
Well guess what, my people, White people, are catching on very quickly to the following two things:

Multiculturalism is a code for White geNOcide.

Anti-racist is a code for anti-White.

Homosexuality is a code for world demise.
Adam

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#3347
Apr 5, 2013
 
Multiculturalism and homosexuality is a program to turn every white christian country into a non-White christian country.

This IS geNOcide. WHITE geNOcide.

If you are White, and you object to your own geNOcide, you are called a RACIST!
if you are straigt and white you object to your own geNOcide,you are called a racist homophobe
Well guess what, my people, White people, are catching on very quickly to the following two things:

Multiculturalism is a code for White geNOcide.

Anti-racist is a code for anti-White.

Homosexuality is a code for world demise.
RFD

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#3348
Apr 5, 2013
 
Johnny wrote:
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Muhammad Ali would VERY well have held his own had he participated in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) competition.
Western boxing alone is not a viable art for ground engagement.
Stop being a child.
Western boxing is a simpleton art compared to most others.
YOu have no idea what Ali would have been good in. He was an offensive runner. Hit and run. Anything other than that that you have no idea what he would have been good in. Grow up.
Again, what is your experience?
It is quite evident that you spend to much time scouring the internet.
RFD

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#3349
Apr 5, 2013
 
Adam wrote:
Multiculturalism and homosexuality is a program to turn every white christian country into a non-White christian country.
This IS geNOcide. WHITE geNOcide.
If you are White, and you object to your own geNOcide, you are called a RACIST!
if you are straigt and white you object to your own geNOcide,you are called a racist homophobe
Well guess what, my people, White people, are catching on very quickly to the following two things:
Multiculturalism is a code for White geNOcide.
Anti-racist is a code for anti-White.
Homosexuality is a code for world demise.
Yep. Sadly to say, too many Caucasians have no idea what is going on.
RFD

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#3350
Apr 5, 2013
 
More of your assumptions..
Johnny wrote:
Well, the mental simpleton from Oakland is back.
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Where have I said I am from Oakland? What makes you think I am in Oakland?
Grow up.
RFD

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#3351
Apr 5, 2013
 
Johnny wrote:
the striking disciplines
Too funny.

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