Calling all White People

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#3170 Mar 23, 2013
my point is that obama would have won anyway, even if he didn't claim to be black....and might have even won by a bigger margin if he claimed bi-racial and maybe even lauded for his "courage" to claim mixed race.

- yes, we all know that whites despise african americans more than they despise foreign blacks. this is a proven fact that we have all observed. this is because whites in america do not have a history of hate and violence with foreign blacks. in america, blacks and whites are enemies and have a deep and abiding hate for each other. the history of slavery and jim crow and civil rights made every black-white interaction a potentially explosive event. during the great migration up north, blacks competed with whites for jobs. As a result, whites used their racial privilege to riot in the streets and kill blacks in order to intimidate and neturalize efforts at black self-improvement and upward mobility. whites have always sought to infiltrate, destroy and discredit any organization that blacks created, from the black wall street in oklahoma, to cultural/political movements such as the nation of islam to many powerful civil rights organizations. Then when whites had used their larger numbers and guns and greater financial wealth to destroy these black organizations, they would say "see? they can't run an organization or govern themselves"...but the fact is, for DECADES blacks DID do all those things. For example, blacks operated and ran a baseball league that was superior to the Major leagues for over 50 years.

Whites feel more comfortable around foreign blacks because those people come from countries where they are not at war with whites on a daily basis like blacks. they don't threaten whites and they don't hate whites as much as american blacks do...and whites don't have a collective memory of violence and hate against them. But the reality is, once they have been here in america a few generations, they learn to hate whites just as much as any other black person.

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#3171 Mar 23, 2013
when it comes to athletics, it's a scientifically proven fact that blacks are physically stronger than whites due to the higher levels of testosterone in black people. Yes, there are some sports such as swimming and sailing that whites dominate...that's because blacks don't take part in those sports. But all it takes is ONE black person to participate in an all white sport and that ONE black person will generally tend to dominate, such as tiger woods in golf or the williams sisters in tennis or gabby douglas in gymnastics. For example, soccer is a sport that is popular throughout the world in all continents. The greatest soccer player of all time is a black man, pele. the greatest soccer nation of all time in terms of the number of world cup titles won is a brazil, a team which has either black or mixed black/white race players. The dominican republic team made up of all black players recently won the world baseball championships. the greatest bodybuilders are black men even though bodybuilding is not a popular sport among blacks. i think we can safely say that whites are far physically inferior to blacks.

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#3172 Mar 23, 2013
the thing with obama is, that there are a lotta bm in america with a white mother and black father. That by itself doesn't make them special in any way. when some of those mixed race bm don't amount to much or become criminals, etc, they are called "black" because of the one-drop rule. when they become successful, whites seek to spotlight their white parentage. so you have these whites seeking to take credit for anything good blacks do and even claiming blacks as their own, which they would never do if that half-white/half-black dude was in jail. freakin amazing...

Also, obama was BORN and raised in america and indonesia. he's not an african anymore than garvey or malcolm x or dr king were african. He is a product of the american experience. What saved him from the destructive effects of racism was that he was raised in HAWAII, a state where blacks aren't treated the same as in the mainland.

Obama and others like dr carson are examples of what happens when blacks are given something approaching a level playing field instead of a mountain slope playing field.

When banks give loans based on credit worthiness instead of race, and employers hire based on qualifications instead of race and hospitals provide care based on need instead of race, blacks won't need to use the power of the government as leverage against white racism. it is our ability to understand the racist capitalist system and to use our influence in the political process to counter the effects of capitalist racism that proves our ability to function independently. That is what shows our ability to adapt and use the resources available to us for our benefit. there is NO functioning at a higher level than that.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3173 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond --- In regards to your previous post to me,#3169.---- You said "it wasn't the black vote that put obama over the top. the vast majority of obama supporters were whites".--- True.

You said "so if obama had claimed to be "multi-racial/ bi-racial" he would have lost some black support".--- Correct.

You said "but it's likely he would have gained more white support and especially latino and asians".--- Nope.

Non-Hispanic Whites, Hispanics (Afro-Latinos included) & Asian-Americans do NOT vote for a candidate.--- In regards to how the respective candidate classifies himself/herself according to "race".
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3174 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
this is what his community activism was about when he lived in chicago. this is why he attended an all-black church for decades. that's why his entire agenda has been a liberal agenda that benefits blacks in aggregate. he doesn't HAVE to claim black...he claims black becuase he KNOWS he's black in a cultural and social and political sense even though he has a white mother
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I see your first 3 points. I'm in agreement.

Barack, being a politician VERY much HAS to claim "Black".

Again, if he'd say that he is "multiracial" &/or "mixed", this would alienate him from the African American (Descendants of black American slaves) voting bloc. He CANNOT do that.

Because in each & every election from 1964 till now.--- African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) have voted at least 90% for Democratic Party candidates.

The Democratic Party candidates NEED the African American (Descendants of black American slaves) vote. To get elected to office. Or, to get re-elected to office.

But, even WAY more so.--- Barack also had to come across POSITIVELY to White America.

Obama HAD to come across as being a less threatening black person.

Barack HAD to come across to White America, as being an "acceptable black person".
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3175 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
For example, blacks operated and ran a baseball league that was superior to the Major leagues for over 50 years.
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Uh, "superior"?

When American baseball was segregated.--- The African American teams (It was called the "Negro League" back then) played some of the White-American baseball teams.

In these matchups, the African American teams won more of the games.

But, two CRITICAL factors in regards to the African American teams playing the White-American teams. Here they are.---

1. The White-American teams did not play their top players.

2. Most of all, the White-American teams did not play their top pitchers.

Regarding the African American teams.--- These respective teams did have some good hitters & runners.

But, the African American teams had a VERY critical flaw.

This was the African American teams VERY critical flaw.--- Their pitchers were NOT good at all.

The only top African American pitcher would have been Satchel Paige.

That was it.

The White-American teams had WAY better pitchers.

THIS is the critical equation.

This factor right here. Which shows that the African American baseball league was NOT "superior".--- When integration in American baseball came, the African American baseball league TOTALLY went under.

Had the African American baseball league been "superior".-- It would NOT have succumbed.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3176 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond --- In regards to your previous post to me,#3171.--- You said "But all it takes is ONE black person to participate in an all white sport and that ONE black person will generally tend to dominate, such as tiger woods in golf or the williams sisters in tennis or gabby douglas in gymnastics".--- Somewhat true.

Somewhat true, in this regard.--- For the PRESENT day.

Is Tiger Woods the greatest golfer of all time?---No.

Professional golf is still (It always has been) majority White.

Are the Williams sisters the greatest female tennis players of all time?--- No.

Professional tennis (Mens tennis & womens tennis) is still (It always has been) majority White.

Is Gabrielle Douglas the greatest female gymnast of all time?--- No.

Gymnastics (Mens gymnastics & womens gymnastics) is still (It always has been) majority White.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3177 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
The greatest soccer player of all time is a black man, pele. the greatest soccer nation of all time in terms of the number of world cup titles won is a brazil, a team which has either black or mixed black/white race players.
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This is very debatable if Pele was the greatest soccer player of all time.


Pele was a great player. Pele scored the most goals.

But, Pele was SPECIFICALLY offensively oriented. NOT defensively.

True, Brazil has won the most World Cups.

But, the Brazilian teams are EXCLUSIVELY offensively oriented. NOT defensively.

The top European teams are defensively oriented.

As in boxing, with everything being equal.--- Top defense triumphs over a top offense.

The greatest Brazilian soccer team is the 1970 team.

But, the 1970 Brazilian soccer team would have LOST to these respective European teams.---

1982 Italian national team, 1998 French national team & the 2006 Italian national team.

This is why.--- The 1982 Italian national team, 1998 French national team & the 2006 Italian national team.--- Had very GREAT defenses.

The defense of the 1982 Italian national team, 1998 French national team & the 2006 Italian national team.--- Would have DEFINITELY shut down the offensive attack of ANY respective Brazilian national team.

This was ESPECIALLY the case with the 1998 French national team.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3178 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
a team which has either black or mixed black/white race players.
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Granted, the Brazilian national soccer teams have players who do have some African ancestry.

But, they are Afro-Brasileiros. NOT African American (Descendants of black American slaves).

Brazilians (Including Afro-Brasilerios) are totally DIFFERENT. Compared to African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) are always & constantly claiming OTHER groups.

Again, Brazilians are totally DIFFERENT. Compared to African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Primarily in regards to culture, customs & norms.

Especially in regards to behavior, actions & attitudes.

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3179 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
The dominican republic team made up of all black players recently won the world baseball championships.
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Granted, the Dominican Republics (DRs) baseball team is made up of players who have some African ancestry.

They are Afro-Dominicanos. NOT African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Dominicans (Including the Afro-Dominicanos) are totally DIFFERENT. Compared to African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves).

Primarily in regards to history, culture, customs & norms.

Especially in regards to behavior, actions & attitudes.

Again, African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) are always & constantly claiming other groups.

Please quit claiming other groups.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3180 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
the greatest bodybuilders are black men even though bodybuilding is not a popular sport among blacks.
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Oh geez. Come on.

Granted, there are some top African American (Descendants of black American slaves) bodybuilders. Both African American male & female bodybuilders.

These would be the top African American male bodybuilders.--- Dexter Blade Jackson, Phil "The Gift" Heath & Kai Greene.

That's it.

The top male & female bodybuilders have been (Still are) Whites.

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#3181 Mar 24, 2013
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
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Uh, "superior"?
When American baseball was segregated.--- The African American teams (It was called the "Negro League" back then) played some of the White-American baseball teams.
In these matchups, the African American teams won more of the games.
But, two CRITICAL factors in regards to the African American teams playing the White-American teams. Here they are.---
1. The White-American teams did not play their top players.
2. Most of all, the White-American teams did not play their top pitchers.
Regarding the African American teams.--- These respective teams did have some good hitters & runners.
But, the African American teams had a VERY critical flaw.
This was the African American teams VERY critical flaw.--- Their pitchers were NOT good at all.
The only top African American pitcher would have been Satchel Paige.
That was it.
The White-American teams had WAY better pitchers.
THIS is the critical equation.
This factor right here. Which shows that the African American baseball league was NOT "superior".--- When integration in American baseball came, the African American baseball league TOTALLY went under.
Had the African American baseball league been "superior".-- It would NOT have succumbed.
I don't know about whites fielding their second-raters and blacks fielding their best. never heard that. but either way, it's not black's problem if whites didn't field their best teams....all it meant was that blacks beat whites 3-1 in those matchups which proved black superiority. And especially back then, whites didn't want any evidence of blacks being superior to them at anything. whites would have lost if whites had fielded their best teams too.

secondly, the african american leagues went down only because the major leagues was where the money was at. the white league could pay black players a lot more. and given the limited viable playing years of a baseball player it made sense for black players to chase the money. blacks who played in the negro leagues had to hold full-time jobs and/or play two or three games a day just to stay in business. with a white team, they made a lot more money with a lot less work and trouble, under better conditions and on top of that, they got recognition by the white media which was the only media that existed so they could demonstrate black superiority to the world.

with all the constant travel and logistics involved in organizing the league with limited resources, the fact that the negro league existed for so long is evidence of the superior managerial skills of black owners and black managers.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3182 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
i think we can safely say that whites are far physically inferior to blacks.
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Please take some time out & evaluate.---

Powerlifting competitions are won by Whites.

Whites dominate in Mixed Martial Arts (MMA).

Strongman competitions are dominated by Whites.

Toughman competitions are dominated by Whites.

In regards to boxing.--- The greatest African American (Descendants of black American slaves) heavyweight boxers (In no particular order) would have been these.--- Joe Louis, Muhammad Ali, Jersey Joe Walcott & Ezzard Charles.

But, White boxer Rocky Marciano totally DESTROYED Joe Louis.

Rocky Marciano totally DESTROYED Jersey Joe Walcott.

Rocky Marciano totally DESTROYED Ezzard Charles.

Rocky Marciano also totally DESTROYED another very top African American boxer, Archie Moore.

In regards to the "pound for pound" category in boxing.--- The greatest African American (Descendant of a black American slave) boxer would have been Sugar Ray Robinson.

But, White boxer (Italian-American) Joe Giardello totally SMASHED Sugar Ray Robinson.

White boxer Paul Pender totally dominated OVER Sugar Ray Robinson.

Other great White boxers such as Tony Canzoneri & Benny Leonard.---

Tony Canzoneri & Benny Leonard BOTH scaled way HIGHER heights in professional boxing. Compared to what Sugar Ray Robinson scaled.

In regards to boxings pound for pound category.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3183 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
yes, we all know that whites despise african americans more than they despise foreign blacks. this is a proven fact that we have all observed. this is because whites in america do not have a history of hate and violence with foreign blacks. in america, blacks and whites are enemies and have a deep and abiding hate for each other. the history of slavery and jim crow and civil rights made every black-white interaction a potentially explosive event.
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In regards to your 5 points above.--- You are 150% correct.

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#3184 Mar 24, 2013
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
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Oh geez. Come on.
Granted, there are some top African American (Descendants of black American slaves) bodybuilders. Both African American male & female bodybuilders.
These would be the top African American male bodybuilders.--- Dexter Blade Jackson, Phil "The Gift" Heath & Kai Greene.
That's it.
The top male & female bodybuilders have been (Still are) Whites.
the greatest bodybuilders have been lee haney and ronnie coleman. sergio oliva is the most gifted bodybuilder ever.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3185 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
whites have always sought to infiltrate, destroy and discredit any organization that blacks created.
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Yes & no.

In regards to "yes".--- Whites have infiltrated EVERY main African American (Descendants of black American slaves) organization.

Whites have sought to destroy every main (Which they did) left wing African American organizations.

This is why.--- Left wing African American organizations are a threat to White America.

Way MORE so, left wing African American organizations are a threat to the American establishment.

Left wing African American organizations are a threat to the American System.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3186 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
whites have always sought to infiltrate, destroy and discredit any organization that blacks created, to cultural/political movements such as the nation of islam to many powerful civil rights organizations.
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You are absolutely correct about the civil rights organizations.

But, there was never any attempt by the federal government to shut down the Nation of Islam (NOI) organization.

There was also never any attempt by the federal government to shut down the New Black Panther Party (NBPP) organization.

There was also never any attempt by the federal government to shut down the US Organization (Formerly known as the US Slaves organization).

This is why.--- The Nation of Islam (NOI), New Black Panther Party (NBPP) & US Organization don't carry enough weight throughout the United States (US).

To pose a threat to White America.

Or (Even more so), to pose a threat to the United States (US) federal government.

The Nation of Islam (NOI), New Black Panther Party (NBPP) & US Organization don't carry enough weight throughout the United States (US).--- To be a threat to the American establishment.

But, the Nation of Islam (NOI), New Black Panther Party (NBPP) & US Organization are LOADED with United States (US) federal government infiltrators & informants.

Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3187 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
whites have always sought to infiltrate, destroy and discredit to many powerful civil rights organizations.
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True.

Left wing African American organizations which ARE a threat to White America.

Even way more so, left wing African American organizations which are a threat to the American establishment.

But, it isn't just the left wing African American organizations.

There have also been many left wing Hispanics & left wing non-Hispanic Whites.--- Who were also viewed as being a threat.

A threat to White America.

Also (Way more so), a threat to the American establishment.

These organizations, from the very beginnings of their formation.---- They were loaded with United States (US) federal government infiltrators & informants.

These organizations were tolerated for awhile. Until they got some traction. Then, they were shut down by the United States (US) federal government.

Black Panther Party (The original Black Panther Party), Black Liberation Army (BLA), Weather Underground Organization (WUO), Symbionese Liberation Army (SLA), Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), Fuerzas Armadas de Liberacion Nacional Puertorriquena (FALN -- Left wing Boricua Independencia Organizacion) & the Ejercito Popular Boricua (Left wing Boricua Independencia Organizacion).

These left wing organizations were comprised of African American (Descendants of black American slaves) leftists, Hispanic leftists & non-Hispanic White leftists.

These left wing organizations were a threat to White America.

Also (Way more so), these left wing organizations were a threat to the American establishment.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3188 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
Whites feel more comfortable around foreign blacks because those people come from countries where they are not at war with whites on a daily basis like blacks. they don't threaten whites and they don't hate whites as much as american blacks do...and whites don't have a collective memory of violence and hate against them.
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Your 4 points above.--- You are 150% correct.
Johnny

Milwaukee, WI

#3189 Mar 24, 2013
Desmond Sandiford wrote:
But the reality is, once they have been here in america a few generations, they learn to hate whites just as much as any other black person.
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No. The dynamics are totally different.

This is why.---- Foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) come from a totally DIFFERENT history & culture. Than what African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) come from.

Foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) "American experience" has been totally DIFFERENT.

Compared to African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) "American experience".

Foreign born blacks (Afro-Latinos, blacks from the Anglophone, French / Creole speaking Caribbean black nations & from Africa) personal dealings with non-Hispanic Whites has been totally DIFFERENT.

Compared to African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) personal dealings with non-Hispanic Whites.

In my next post, I'll list many examples throughout the time frame when the United States (US) had the institution of legal segregation & Jim Crow in FULL operation.

How VERY different foreign born blacks were treated. Compared to how African Americans (Descendants of black American slaves) were treated.

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