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#33808 Apr 15, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
<quoted text>
That's right. We haven't been on the front line since we fought against Napoleon.
Force Majeure
So you are saying the last time a Swedish soldier killed anyone in combat it was probably with a sword? hmmm

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Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33809 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>BBC NEWS | Europe | EU allies unite against Iraq war
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/268 3409.stm
EU allies unite against Iraq war.... The leaders of France and Germany have pledged to intensify their co-operation against a US-led war against Iraq.
- As to 9/11 even our good leaders in power in govt questioned the govt 9/11 commission reports , not trusting our own US govt.
The war in Iraq is over, we are talking about Afghanistan.
BTW-some of the most advanced and democrat nations followed us into Iraq—the UK, Australia, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, New Zealand Iceland, Spain, the Czech Republic, even Japan was there.
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#33810 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
As usual, you are full of crap.
This is a quote from his last speech.
“But American military might should not and need not stand alone against the ambitions of international communism. Our security and strength, in the last analysis, directly depend on the security and strength of others, and that is why our military and economic assistance plays such a key role in enabling those who live on the periphery of the Communist world to maintain their independence of choice. Our assistance to these nations can be painful, risky, and costly, as is true in Southeast Asia today. But we dare not weary of the task.”
u lack critical reasoning skill, u logic 101 is lacking ...

JFK got with MLKjr, most likely talk about Peace... that where got some his idea from. both Assasinated for support Human values, human rights, civil liberties... as those in corrupted power didn't like what they represented. You war mongering Grunt, support evil mens with reason but without moral will do what to its nation and world people in it. Waqke up time you unthinking who lover of wars and violence, those war-for-profiteering...

And LBJ had investments in vietnam and did want the war to stop but JFk wantede to End war , so ? Use you brain for once, you dimwit

He didn't have time to finish his term , if he did have more time to investigate what corrupted in power want our NATION TO DO , i would say he would had not goto war with communism knowing it not about about Communism but about wAR-FOR-PROFITERRING enterprises and us MANIFEST destiny..., and would call on American People to stop all wars in name of world Stability and Peace...but the evil in US power Assassinated JFk before he can get the those Americans who believe in World Peace... because of this below speech and other speeches he made during his short life as President. Remember he irriatated those behind the heavy veil, the US Imperial directive in Power DID NOT like his many speeches about call for Peace , against evil in govt and secrecy... As , those Men in power(the Corrupted ) with reason but without/lack off moral will do what to its nation and the world?
He not a War monger but if he had time he would had known that Communism is just a used a Boogey man ploy (False Flag operations) to get US into war(s) oversea.

"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." He asked the nations of the world to join together to fight what he called the "common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself". He added: "All this will not be finished in the first one hundred days.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33811 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>talking about many wars, ingeneral our evil greedy leaders of the warring US always put our dumb American soldier on the frontline in name of war-for-profiteering, other ill Hegemonic money interest...
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

In case you don't know--JFK

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33812 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>u lack critical reasoning skill, u logic 101 is lacking ...
JFK got with MLKjr, most likely talk about Peace... that where got some his idea from. both Assasinated for support Human values, human rights, civil liberties... as those in corrupted power didn't like what they represented. You war mongering Grunt, support evil mens with reason but without moral will do what to its nation and world people in it. Waqke up time you unthinking who lover of wars and violence, those war-for-profiteering...
And LBJ had investments in vietnam and did want the war to stop but JFk wantede to End war , so ? Use you brain for once, you dimwit
He didn't have time to finish his term , if he did have more time to investigate what corrupted in power want our NATION TO DO , i would say he would had not goto war with communism knowing it not about about Communism but about wAR-FOR-PROFITERRING enterprises and us MANIFEST destiny..., and would call on American People to stop all wars in name of world Stability and Peace...but the evil in US power Assassinated JFk before he can get the those Americans who believe in World Peace... because of this below speech and other speeches he made during his short life as President. Remember he irriatated those behind the heavy veil, the US Imperial directive in Power DID NOT like his many speeches about call for Peace , against evil in govt and secrecy... As , those Men in power(the Corrupted ) with reason but without/lack off moral will do what to its nation and the world?
He not a War monger but if he had time he would had known that Communism is just a used a Boogey man ploy (False Flag operations) to get US into war(s) oversea.
"Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." He asked the nations of the world to join together to fight what he called the "common enemies of man: tyranny, poverty, disease, and war itself". He added: "All this will not be finished in the first one hundred days.
Yet on the day he was assassinated he reiterated the need to support South Vietnam against communism.
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#33813 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
In case you don't know--JFK
But JFK few months, before he got assissinated , made another speech that irked the Imperial directive , as he didn't trust his own US govt . But he know the Vietnam WAR WERE ILLEGAL and wrong,HE became advocater of peace after seeing what govt (corrupted) is doing to it nation, he no War monger. Most lively MLKjr speech and meeting with MLKjr got JFK thinking that war is wrong... Both got Assassinated for making speeches and in opposition to the US imperial directives , those men with reason but without moral will do what to its nation and world in it?
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#33814 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
Yet on the day he was assassinated he reiterated the need to support South Vietnam against communism.
But he asked for withdrawal from vietnam War! LBJ had investments in Vietnam and didn't want to withdraw but JFk wanted to withdraw from Vietnam war! You see the conflict of interest, you dimwit!

History Matters - Vietnam Withdrawal Plans
history-matters.com/vietnam1963.htm

They show that by May of 1963 there were plans on the books for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Vietnam,... The Kennedy Assassination and the Vietnam War,...

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33815 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>But JFK few months, before he got assissinated , made another speech that irked the Imperial directive , as he didn't trust his own US govt . But he know the Vietnam WAR WERE ILLEGAL and wrong,HE became advocater of peace after seeing what govt (corrupted) is doing to it nation, he no War monger. Most lively MLKjr speech and meeting with MLKjr got JFK thinking that war is wrong... Both got Assassinated for making speeches and in opposition to the US imperial directives , those men with reason but without moral will do what to its nation and world in it?
Yet on the day he was assassinated he reiterated the need to support South Vietnam against communism.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33816 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>But he asked for withdrawal from vietnam War! LBJ had investments in Vietnam and didn't want to withdraw but JFk wanted to withdraw from Vietnam war! You see the conflict of interest, you dimwit!
History Matters - Vietnam Withdrawal Plans
history-matters.com/vietnam1963.htm
They show that by May of 1963 there were plans on the books for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Vietnam,... The Kennedy Assassination and the Vietnam War,...
Kennedy was asassinated in November and his last speech called for continuing our support for South Vietnam!
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#33817 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
Kennedy was asassinated in November and his last speech called for continuing our support for South Vietnam!
Kennedy, Vietnam and Iraq - Salon.com
www.salon.com/2003/11/22/vietnam

Nov 22, 2003 ·... JFK decided to withdraw from Vietnam a month ... Certain facts — that Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam,... and even the Vietnam War which ...
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#33818 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
The war in Iraq is over, we are talking about Afghanistan.
BTW-some of the most advanced and democrat nations followed us into Iraq—the UK, Australia, Denmark, Norway, the Netherlands, New Zealand Iceland, Spain, the Czech Republic, even Japan was there.
Same thing, US all over planet, worldwide causing dissensions ...
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#33819 Apr 15, 2013
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text>lot of "if" s in your post doc hypocrite.
He knew the dangers of communism, and spoke and acted against it.
Just look at Cuba Doc Hypocrite..
not doc hypocrite . but you a real Doc War monger bimbo

then why 179 nations given the war mongering US militaristic neo--imperialiast the big boot in the US azzes?
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#33820 Apr 15, 2013
courteous europhobe wrote:
<quoted text> who in your opinion were most oppressed? those iranians b4 or after the revolution in 1979
or yourself?
US oppressed middle east first! go way back before 1979 and how us ruined iran.

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Since: Dec 06

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#33821 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>Kennedy, Vietnam and Iraq - Salon.com
www.salon.com/2003/11/22/vietnam
Nov 22, 2003 ·... JFK decided to withdraw from Vietnam a month ... Certain facts — that Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam,... and even the Vietnam War which ...
There were plans to withdraw troops from Iraq in 2003.

The withdraw from Vietnam that McNamara was discussing was contingent on the success of the military campaign and the training of the South Vietnamese to do the fighting on their own. That was the same criteria that Nixon used seven years later (why didn’t they kill him?). Even in the article you posted, Kennedy did not give his unqualified support to the plan and was prepared to continue our presence in South Vietnam if things went badly in ’65. At no point did Kennedy or McNamara suggest abandoning South Vietnam to the communist.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33822 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>Kennedy, Vietnam and Iraq - Salon.com
www.salon.com/2003/11/22/vietnam
Nov 22, 2003 ·... JFK decided to withdraw from Vietnam a month ... Certain facts — that Kennedy wanted out of Vietnam,... and even the Vietnam War which ...
Bullshit!

This is from his last speech

But American military might should not and need not stand alone against the ambitions of international communism. Our security and strength, in the last analysis, directly depend on the security and strength of others, and that is why our military and economic assistance plays such a key role in enabling those who live on the periphery of the Communist world to maintain their independence of choice. Our assistance to these nations can be painful, risky, and costly, as is true in Southeast Asia today. But we dare not weary of the task.

Read the whole thing!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/fe...
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#33823 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
Bullshit!
This is from his last speech
But American military might should not and need not stand alone against the ambitions of international communism. Our security and strength, in the last analysis, directly depend on the security and strength of others, and that is why our military and economic assistance plays such a key role in enabling those who live on the periphery of the Communist world to maintain their independence of choice. Our assistance to these nations can be painful, risky, and costly, as is true in Southeast Asia today. But we dare not weary of the task.
Read the whole thing!
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/fe...
JFK (a puppet with no power) changed his mind and wanted withdraw from illegal Vietnam war but the power (the corrupted) to be won't let him . JFk k new war had not thing to do with communism but about war-for-profiteering, global Hegemonic agendas those Oil/USD hegemony, as SE Asia filled with Resources. As LBJ had Financial /war investments in Vietnam and number those in US power (crooked and greedy mens) also had investments in vietnam.
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#33824 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
There were plans to withdraw troops from Iraq in 2003.
The withdraw from Vietnam that McNamara was discussing was contingent on the success of the military campaign and the training of the South Vietnamese to do the fighting on their own. That was the same criteria that Nixon used seven years later (why didn’t they kill him?). Even in the article you posted, Kennedy did not give his unqualified support to the plan and was prepared to continue our presence in South Vietnam if things went badly in ’65. At no point did Kennedy or McNamara suggest abandoning South Vietnam to the communist.
It be to obvious if they, those corrupted in power do another on the fly assassination attempt on a Pres., As American people will question the motives of our US govt. They got him on the Watergate charge (planned false flag Op)... aand you know rest. Come on use you little peabrain! WBHAHAHAA

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33825 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>JFK (a puppet with no power) changed his mind and wanted withdraw from illegal Vietnam war but the power (the corrupted) to be won't let him . JFk k new war had not thing to do with communism but about war-for-profiteering, global Hegemonic agendas those Oil/USD hegemony, as SE Asia filled with Resources. As LBJ had Financial /war investments in Vietnam and number those in US power (crooked and greedy mens) also had investments in vietnam.
Did you even bother to read Kennedy’s speech? If you did, you’d know you are full of crap. But none of that surprises me. You claimed Eisenhower was a peacenik even though he supported covert operations around the world, threatened to use nuclear weapons, created the MIC and more importantly prevented WW3. Kennedy was an equally adamant anticommunist. Eisenhower, Kennedy and the majority of the Western world were well aware of the evils of communist ambition. They had seen the Soviets collude with the Nazis to start WW2 and as Eisenhower stated “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method.”

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#33826 Apr 15, 2013
US Holocausts on World wrote:
<quoted text>It be to obvious if they, those corrupted in power do another on the fly assassination attempt on a Pres., As American people will question the motives of our US govt. They got him on the Watergate charge (planned false flag Op)... aand you know rest. Come on use you little peabrain! WBHAHAHAA
They got Nixon on Watergate after American troops had been withdrawn from South Vietnam.
The North Vietnamese attacked the South in 1975. Why didn’t we re-invade? Was Gerald Ford too powerful?

You are a dufus.
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#33827 Apr 15, 2013
Dave C wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you even bother to read Kennedy’s speech? If you did, you’d know you are full of crap. But none of that surprises me. You claimed Eisenhower was a peacenik even though he supported covert operations around the world, threatened to use nuclear weapons, created the MIC and more importantly prevented WW3. Kennedy was an equally adamant anticommunist. Eisenhower, Kennedy and the majority of the Western world were well aware of the evils of communist ambition. They had seen the Soviets collude with the Nazis to start WW2 and as Eisenhower stated “We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insidious in method.”
I did not say he was a Peacenik, but he learned from his experience... he and like some are tricked into working for corrupted.

Henry Kissinger "
Most high officials leave office with the perceptions and insights with which they entered.

John Stockwell, former CIA official
(from his books, speeches...

The major function of secrecy in Washington is to keep the U.S. people ... from knowing what the nation's leaders are doing.

===
Henry Kissinger
"Soldiers are expendable -- dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy."

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