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“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#30097 Mar 1, 2013
dUng wrote:
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Max wrote:
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Hey you never replied to my question. Why do you talk of China, Iran and Russia when the depleted uranium shells were shot in Iraq and Afganistan?
SO WHAT'S WRONG WITH KARL MARX; EVERYTHING HE SAID IS GOING RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.
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For starters, he's an evil commie like you and the rest of your minions, little slob. <¦-o

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#30098 Mar 1, 2013
Horse Manure wrote:
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He is the best. As I understand he's still locked up without trial or even being told the charges. There is maximun time one can be held in custody until the charges be filed but the U.S. is not honouring that law. Very odd "Democracy" they have over there.
Max would love to hear some of your lies about, being a Swedish National serving in the American Special Forces during the Vietnam War. Tell him about how you posted as Annie Muk before getting the ban hammer dropped on you. He would love to hear your fabricated tales of atrocities committed by American forces against Vietnamese citizens. He may aslo want to know about your homosexuality, that your so proud of, old geezer. <¦-o

“Seriously guys...”

Since: May 12

Regina

#30099 Mar 1, 2013
DENG wrote:
JA, TRY EATING IT, DU, AND GET BACK IN A YEAR.
Mmmmmm I dunno dude. Would take a helluva marinade to tenderize it enough to eat it.
DENG

Nanjing, China

#30102 Mar 1, 2013
GO READ IT, IT'S ONLINE, THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO, AS IT OUTLINES THE SOCIAL AND TECHNOLOGICAL EVOLUTION OF THE HUMAN RACE.
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>For starters, he's an evil commie like you and the rest of your minions, little slob. <¦-o

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#30104 Mar 1, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
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FIRST: "treason"? He hasn't been charged with treason ..... or anything at all.
SECOND: "higher penalty"? Penalties and sentencing are only valid once you've been convicted of a crime ..... any crime. One cannot be sentenced for something that hasn't even taken place. So far he's not been tried or even told what crime he's not being charged for.
You have serious difficulties keeping "on track" and "on Topic" and you need to improve your reading comprehension.
Pled guilty to 10 charges yesterday, but not the big one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/28/b...
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30105 Mar 1, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>5.0 makes for a lousy truck engine. My old '94 Dodge battering ram, with it's 360 would drag your truck backwards, Muslim fool. <¦-o
yeah right only if it had the cummings then thee truck falls apart around the motor.
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30106 Mar 1, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Why waste my time with you? You're just another left wing piece of shit, that comes onto an American forum, to bash my country because you think you're answering a higher calling, by disseminating your socialist/communists view points. You're no different than Horse Manure, other than he's more honest than you about what he truly is. He openly admits he's a communist, you on the other hand start your battles through a round about way, all the while accusing your opponent of doing what you already started. At least the other losers on this thread like Horse Manure, DUNGS, John Brown Stain, Captain Fucking zerO and so fourth, are upfront about being low lifes. So I'll type real slow, so my American vernacular doesn't confuse you. In the words of John Wayne, go fuck yourself,idiotic fool. <¦-o
I promise you this is not your country.
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30107 Mar 1, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
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He is the best. As I understand he's still locked up without trial or even being told the charges. There is maximun time one can be held in custody until the charges be filed but the U.S. is not honouring that law. Very odd "Democracy" they have over there.
yes he is a true patriot.A hero.And I think he is from crescent Oklahoma.
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30108 Mar 1, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Well, let's clear the air here. Obviously you know sweet fuck, about the American Justice system. Otherwise you'd know that the military has it's own rules, regulations and standards of conduct, not the same as civilian rules, regulations and laws provided under the constitution. That being said, you're referring to a case of treason, such garner much higher penalties. Depending on how much he potentially compromised the security of the United States and it's allies, as well as how well the prosecution argues it's case, he quite potentially will spend the rest of his life in military prison. There maybe the potential for the death penalty. Now reverse the role and pick one of the countries you idolize, his counterpart would have already been executed, under a much more streamlined proceeding, consisting of a superior officer, a political officer a judge or Regent and a bullet. <¦-o
you are a joke the security of America no such thing.if their was their would of been no 9/11 if that is what you believe.however the truth is 9/11 was done by the terrorist in Washington.
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30109 Mar 1, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>For starters, he's an evil commie like you and the rest of your minions, little slob. <¦-o
evil like the sin you commit everyday.
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30110 Mar 1, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
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FIRST: "treason"? He hasn't been charged with treason ..... or anything at all.
SECOND: "higher penalty"? Penalties and sentencing are only valid once you've been convicted of a crime ..... any crime. One cannot be sentenced for something that hasn't even taken place. So far he's not been tried or even told what crime he's not being charged for.
You have serious difficulties keeping "on track" and "on Topic" and you need to improve your reading comprehension.
this is one of the new executive orders they can lock anybody up for being a terrorist.And hold them without charges or trial.the ffffnnnn country is a giant shit hole we have no rights but the right to take it up the ass from the g men uncle sam.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#30111 Mar 1, 2013
John Brown wrote:
<quoted text>this is one of the new executive orders they can lock anybody up for being a terrorist.And hold them without charges or trial.the ffffnnnn country is a giant shit hole we have no rights but the right to take it up the ass from the g men uncle sam.
I would never live in a country like that. Why do you?
John Brown

Oklahoma City, OK

#30112 Mar 1, 2013
Go out and buy a American flag or steal your neighbors .take it and smear shit all over it then drag it behind something then pour gas on it and burn the worthless pos. the worship of the flag is like worshiping satan.

Since: Jul 09

Location hidden

#30113 Mar 1, 2013
John Brown wrote:
Go out and buy a American flag or steal your neighbors .take it and smear shit all over it then drag it behind something then pour gas on it and burn the worthless pos. the worship of the flag is like worshiping satan.
I would like to do that to you.
Max

Montréal, Canada

#30116 Mar 1, 2013
1USA1 wrote:
<quoted text>Why waste my time with you? You're just another left wing piece of shit, that comes onto an American forum, to bash my country because you think you're answering a higher calling, by disseminating your socialist/communists view points. You're no different than Horse Manure, other than he's more honest than you about what he truly is. He openly admits he's a communist, you on the other hand start your battles through a round about way, all the while accusing your opponent of doing what you already started. At least the other losers on this thread like Horse Manure, DUNGS, John Brown Stain, Captain Fucking zerO and so fourth, are upfront about being low lifes. So I'll type real slow, so my American vernacular doesn't confuse you. In the words of John Wayne, go fuck yourself,idiotic fool. <¦-o
Based on your angry reply, I can tell that you know deep down that depleted uranium shells are bad but you don't want to admit it. Since you are unable to state an opinion in a normal manner on the subject, let me help you.

Let me tell you the two worse reasons why depleted uranium shells are used:

1 - The US relies so much on nuclear energy that they have huge excess of depleted uranium and dont know wtf to do with it, so why not use the enemy as a toxic garbage disposal?

2 - When you wage a war on a country by normal means ( bullets ), the elderly, handicapped, mentally ill, all of them die and those left are the strong ones, and that workforce can rebuild the country rather quickly. But if you poison its inhabitant, it can take them twice as long to rebuild, even more, since they will give birth to many birth defects which will require a lot more effort on their part.

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#30117 Mar 1, 2013
Force Majeure wrote:
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I'm sure he's not guilty of "the big one" anyway.
What he's released is what was suppressed and "covered up" fact. He (as I'm sure you were too) led to believe in democracy and honesty. He knew (beyond any shadow of doubt) that his countrymen had a right to know what was being done. So ...... "the big one"? No.
If it was as simple as that, there wouldn’t be a law against it. I’ll let the Judge decide.
Max

Montréal, Canada

#30118 Mar 1, 2013
Whisgean Zoda wrote:
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I've already made my point on DUC munitions. I've stated at least twice now what the hazards are. Just because YOU don't like the answer isn't my fucking problem. DU in any state is a POTENTIAL toxilogical hazard, NOT a radiological hazard. But you see, stupid people hear "uranium" and start thinking nuclear weapon levels of radiation. The issue isn't radioactivity, the issue is that uranium is a heavy metal(for the umpteenth time now). Most heavy metals are quite toxic when one is exposed to significant doses,
and the two worst ways to be exposed are breathing and orally. Exposure through oral contamination could come from handling spent munitions casings, picking up pieces of shrapnel, touching destroyed equipment with DU armour or even just touching the ground around where these kinds of munitions were targeted or armour was destroyed, and then putting your fingers in your mouth or handling food before washing up. This goes for uranium, lead, mercury, cadmium(the stuff they use in many batteries ie: NiCad batteries), barium, arsenic(which is actually a metalloid) and several others. Of those metals specifically listed, only uranium is radioactive, yet enough exposure to any of them can cause birth defects and renal failure.
We all know the dangers of lead poisoning these days. Well, from a toxilogical perspective, uranium and lead are about as dangerous.
You see, I know you and others are making an emotive connection to the nukes dropped on Japan: Uranium automatically=radioactive death. Therefore, since DU is uranium, radiation must be the cause of the illnesses and birth defects.
What those poor people in Bosnia and Iraq are suffering are classic cases of heavy metal poisoning. The effects of heavy metal poisoning are well known and documented.
So then why use them? With today's modern armour, militaries need denser materials to pack more punch into an anti-tank round. The only two naturally occuring elements that are denser are tungsten and gold, both of which are way too expensive to use on something disposable like munitions. So, as usual, the civilians end up paying the bulk of the price from their use.
That's not a justification, it's simply an explanation why they are used.
If you have an issue with them and think they should be banned, good luck telling the US, UK, France, Russia, China and Pakistan to "knock it off". And those are just the countries that manufacture and sell DUC munitions. There's about 20 others that have admitted to equipping their militaries with them. And ya know what? It doesn't matter which "side" you're on, BOTH the "good guys" and the "bad guys" have them.
And if you really think a ban will be effective, take a look at the ban on land mines. In fact, look no further than the border between the Koreas.
Interesting. Well, I already knew most of that. But that is such a depressing end to your argument. Are you trying to discourage anyone from seeking a solution?

“Never run from a fight.”

Since: Dec 06

Vista, Ca.

#30119 Mar 1, 2013
Max wrote:
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Interesting. Well, I already knew most of that. But that is such a depressing end to your argument. Are you trying to discourage anyone from seeking a solution?
And your solution would be…?

“For F***'s Sake”

Since: Aug 12

Tanner Flats

#30120 Mar 1, 2013
Dave C wrote:
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And your solution would be…?
His solution is, blame America.
Max

Montréal, Canada

#30121 Mar 1, 2013
Dave C wrote:
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And your solution would be…?
The only real solution would be an armed civil revolution. Don't ask me to help though, we re a disarmed people over here.

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