~ Should 911 have a New Investigation? ~

~ Should 911 have a New Investigation? ~

Created by Timesten on Feb 25, 2011

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“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1123 Mar 9, 2013
And your lying off topic spam tells us all who you really are, Pig troll.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1124 Mar 9, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>tom fontaine arrested for buggery
About 3,250,000 results (0.23 seconds)
http://tinyurl.com/cvylter
Must be true, I feel sorry for the cat!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1125 Mar 9, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Nice resume' you got there.
The one that says Juris Doctorate?
Oh man, I should have went for those TV adds so it says Unemployed Truck driver.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1126 Mar 9, 2013
Timesten wrote:
And your lying off topic spam tells us all who you really are, Pig troll.
State one lie SCUMBAG!

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1127 Mar 9, 2013
Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr. explained said that,‘many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings, but they’re afraid for their jobs to admit it because the ‘higher-ups’ forbid discussion of this fact.” Paul further elaborated that former CIA director Robert Woolsey, as the Fire Department’s Anti-terrorism Consultant, is sending a gag order down the ranks.‘There were definitely bombs in those buildings,’ he told me.”
https://www.google.com/search...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1128 Mar 9, 2013
These people want a New 911 Investigation.
They all can't be wrong.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1129 Mar 9, 2013
Pig pie and Sheen 2 pathetic off topic spamming shill trolls.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#1130 Mar 9, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>Must be true, I feel sorry for the cat!
The Berkshire SPCA is on it!

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Calgary, Canada

#1131 Mar 9, 2013
Timesten wrote:
And your lying off topic spam tells us all who you really are, Pig troll.
Really?

Are you trying to claim all your mindless spam is an attempt at discussion wendy?

And your lack of honesty and character is quite relevant as is your use of google searches in place of a valid argument.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1132 Mar 9, 2013
Timesten wrote:
Lieutenant Fireman and former Auxiliary Police Officer, Paul Isaac Jr. explained said that,‘many other firemen know there were bombs in the buildings,
PAUL ISAAC TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT..........I think we are down to zero firefighters)

Paul Isaac never said anything of the kind. Another Conspiracy Theorist deception.

A video is shown on just about every conspiracy web site which shows a few fireman discussing what they heard and saw.

fireman2: We made it outside, we made it about a block.
fireman1: We made it at least 2 blocks.
fireman2: 2 blocks.
fireman1: and we started runnin'
fireman2: poch-poch-poch-poch-poch-poch- poch
fireman1:[red]Floor by floor it started poppin' out …[/red]
fireman2:[red]It was as if as if [/red]they had detonated, det…
fireman1: yea detonated yea
fireman2:[red]as if[/red] they had planned to take down a building,
boom-boom-boom-boom-boom-boom- boom-boom…

In the context of reading it off a conspiracy site this may sound like damming evidence. They are saying “detonated” and “they had planned to take down a building”. They even say “Boom” to describe the sound. But if you hear the other things they’re saying, their body language and context outside the conspiracy theory setting, something else emerges. Before or after every description is “As if”.“As if they had planned to take down a building”.“It was as if as if they had detonated”. They also use body language to show it was the sound of the floors crashing into one another.

boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom-(hand moves down)
boom…[

Here's a statement from Paul Isaac Jr., printed with his permission.

Quote:

So the true statement was the that I heard Explosions not bombs as I couldn't tell what the sounds were as I was blocks away and can not confirm what the noise was. As I was aproaching City Hall the North Tower began the collapse I heard what sounded like thunder just prior to the collapse then the Popping as the tower fell. I had my radio scanner and there were reports of explsions within the conplex over the PD and PAPD frequencies. As I made my way closer I could pick up on the FD Handie Talkie frequencies and it sounded like hell. No one new what the was going to happen next but when the second tower began its fall there were what sounded like loud popping coming from the tower as well as a sucking sound like reveres air pressure.

This could be just as powerful evidence of pancaking as the use of explosives. But the real evidence isn’t so much examining the video as examining the actions taken, or NOT taken, by the NYC Fire Department after the event. The NYC Fire Department hasn’t rallied its members to force an investigation into the possible murder of over 300 of its members. Some sites offer an explanation of this saying there was a gag order placed on the Fire Department. The only place you will find this is on conspiracy theory sites. No mention from main stream press about the hundreds if not thousands of fireman on the scene not being allowed to talk.

http://www.debunking911.com/quotes.htm

The complete text on Paul Issac,

Shows how interested the truth movement is in the truth.

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1133 Mar 9, 2013
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1134 Mar 9, 2013
Timesten wrote:
These people want a New 911 Investigation.
They all can't be wrong.
https://sites.google.com/site/911whatyoumight...
But the polls say different,

SAYS IT ALL!
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1135 Mar 9, 2013
Porkpie Hat wrote:
<quoted text>
The Berkshire SPCA is on it!
Tell them to take a crowbar!

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1136 Mar 9, 2013
PorkpassHat

Prague, Czech Republic

#1138 Mar 9, 2013
Charlie Sheen wrote:
<quoted text>
State one lie SCUMBAG!
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hee hee! you so funny!

“DECEPTION = MOST POWERFUL ”

Since: Jul 11

POLITICAL FORCE ON THE PLANET

#1139 Mar 10, 2013
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall Acceleration (Part III) by David Chandler
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Published on Feb 4, 2013
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Part III of this series fully explores the implications of NIST's admission that WTC7 entered actual freefall acceleration and critiques the foundations of their "investigation." In the end it calls for a new, independent, fully empowered, and open investigation.
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In this video report you will find that all of WTC7's supporting columns down low in the building for 8 floors had to give away at once together to thrust the building immediately into free-fall acceleration as it did.
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The whole building let go at one moment in time.
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NIST now says it took 5.4 seconds for the complete collapse.
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It was not a progressive collapse. It happened all at once.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Jet Fuel ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h
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Didn't Need Any For This CD Job But Its Funny Anyway Huh Eh !
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http://www.youtube.com/watch...

“Twoof, a true act of ignorance”

Since: Jun 09

Drumheller, Canada

#1140 Mar 10, 2013
NIST never had to "admit" free fall oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop, it's extremely obvious right from the draft report there was a 2.5 second period of free fall...the only people who seem to require an explicit statement of the obvious are the gullible sheep for twoof.

NIST NCSTAR 1A pg. 39 table 3-1

The rest of your idiotic drivel is just that, drivel.

A re-packaged pile of stupid with a couple new lies and no supporting evidence.

There was no 5.4 sec free fall and NIST doesn't claim it.

And seriously,

"It was not a progressive collapse. It happened all at once."

That statement is as dumb as the one that earned you the name "oh elevator boy-sheep 20 pilots glop".
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1141 Mar 10, 2013
Dr_Zorderz wrote:
WTC7: NIST Finally Admits Freefall Acceleration (Part III) by David Chandler
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NIST now says it took 5.4 seconds for the complete collapse.
NOT FREEFALL!

11. In a video, it appears that WTC 7 is descending in free fall, something that would not occur in the structural collapse that you describe. How can NIST ignore basic laws of physics?

In the draft WTC 7 report (released Aug. 21, 2008; available at http://www.nist.gov/el/disasterstudies/wtc/wt... ), NIST stated that the north face of the building descended 18 stories (the portion of the collapse visible in the video) in 5.4 seconds, based on video analysis of the building collapse. This time period is 40 percent longer than the 3.9 seconds this process would have taken if the north face of the building had descended solely under free fall conditions. During the public comment period on the draft report, NIST was asked to confirm this time difference and define the reasons for it in greater detail.

To further clarify the descent of the north face, NIST recorded the downward displacement of a point near the center of the roofline from first movement until the north face was no longer visible in the video. Numerical analyses were conducted to calculate the velocity and acceleration of the roofline point from the time-dependent displacement data. The instant at which vertical motion of the roofline first occurred was determined by tracking the numerical value of the brightness of a pixel (a single element in the video image) at the roofline. This pixel became brighter as the roofline began to descend because the color of the pixel started to change from that of the building façade to the lighter color of the sky.

The approach taken by NIST is summarized in NIST NCSTAR Report 1A, Section 3.6, and detailed in NIST NCSTAR Report 1-9, Section 12.5.3.

The analyses of the video (both the estimation of the instant the roofline began to descend and the calculated velocity and acceleration of a point on the roofline) revealed three distinct stages characterizing the 5.4 seconds of collapse:

Stage 1 (0 to 1.75 seconds): acceleration less than that of gravity (i.e., slower than free fall).
Stage 2 (1.75 to 4.0 seconds): gravitational acceleration (free fall)
Stage 3 (4.0 to 5.4 seconds): decreased acceleration, again less than that of gravity

This analysis showed that the 40 percent longer descent time—compared to the 3.9 second free fall time—was due primarily to Stage 1, which corresponded to the buckling of the exterior columns in the lower stories of the north face. During Stage 2, the north face descended essentially in free fall, indicating negligible support from the structure below. This is consistent with the structural analysis model, which showed the exterior columns buckling and losing their capacity to support the loads from the structure above. In Stage 3, the acceleration decreased as the upper portion of the north face encountered increased resistance from the collapsed structure and the debris pile below.
Charlie Sheen

Lincoln, NE

#1142 Mar 10, 2013
Charlie Zangels wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, given that pancaking was ruled out by NIST (!!) and explosives have been found in the dust (!!)(for anyone who bothers to look, which curiously NIST refuses to do!), then Isaac's testimony is further corroboration of demolition.
That's odd, Issac says it is not, but hey, why not put words in his mouth, you have youtube!

“Google Operation Northwoods”

Since: Aug 10

** 9-11 was an inside job **

#1144 Mar 15, 2013
Charlie Zangels wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, given that pancaking was ruled out by NIST (!!) and explosives have been found in the dust (!!)(for anyone who bothers to look, which curiously NIST refuses to do!), then Isaac's testimony is further corroboration of demolition.
And its further confirmation that Chuckie Sheenster and pals are lying their fingers raw 24/7!
Agreed

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