Black people should recieve Reparations

Black people should recieve Reparations

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“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#1 Nov 29, 2008
Black people that have founded, built, defended, sacrificed for this United States of America and are basically considered 2nd class citizens even to immigrants who have done nothing for nor can't even stand America. It's funny how our Government refuses to pay the people they have bought and sold, killed and maimed, slandered and libeled, kidnapped, disgraced and conspired against for hundreds of years. We have paid the Japanese for interment camps, the Zionist for the holocaust, which didn't even happen here and even the Chinese. We continue to pay the refugees from various countries we have inflicted our warfare on, yet we have a problem when it comes to Brothers and Sisters, who in actuality have made this country the Great Power it is today. Our legacy has been stolen without compensation, our inventions, knowledge and culture leaving us homeless. We are not accepted to my knowledge by any African country as countrymen. We are not even accepted in this country. We are stigmatized by every country in the world. We are even looked down on by fellow Americans. America has brainwashed other immigrants who come into country to fear and hate us with its propaganda. We are the biggest consumers in this country and possibly the world. In the 60's, we were asking for Human rights instead got Civil rights. See based on the Constitution we were considered chattel or personal property. I don't remember any Constitution Admendment being rendered that said otherwise. That's why we have Civil Rights instead of Human Rights like the rest of the free world. "Its like bringing civility to animals than humanity to man." Also in the 60's we asked for fair accomodations. We didn't ask to be integrated into a racist society and even more racist capitalistic system. Because we owned our own banks, school, hospital and communities; they might not have been as good as the European but they were ours. This country has practiced redlining, gerrymandering, redistricting, and pseudo-slavery prison system to the point of Black Genocide. The founding fathers were black if the real story be told. For two years during the Revolutionary War Blacks fought before a white man even joined the fight. Ebonics is spoken with compensation on copyrighted material our dance, music and inventions. Before the Civil War, Blacks inventions owned to their master, so whites get credit for shit they could not even explain much less do. Black people because of our Government is the most despised people on the planet but we are the most talented people on Earth. Did I mention the diseases that were put on us in an effort to exterminate us. We don't die we multiply. On my birth certificate, I was called a Negro. I thought if you were born in America you were American. I was not born in Negroland. I feel humiliated, slandered and libeled every time I look or present my birth certificate and see the disgrace it has and continue to represent as my identification. In the Constitution, we are considered 3/5 a man. I don't see any admendment making me a human being with full citizenship. In closing, hell yeah, America and every other European and Arab country owe Reparations and its high time that they pay their debt to the people who built this country.

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Johnny

Burlington, WI

#3 Nov 29, 2008
chopchop, first off, don't call yourself an "Ethiopian Moor". You are NOT Ethiopian. You are african American (A descendant of an American slave). Subsequently, quit "claiming" that you are an Ethiopian Moor. Quit "claiming" that you are something which you are not.

Now, picking cotton DIDN'T build anything. And whatever "profit(s)" which the southern White slave owners made, these profits were "wiped out" by 1865 (When the Civil War ended). Furthermore, ALL of Americas GREAT, urban industrial centers were built PRIMARILY by White European immigrants.

Now, what you "want" (Your "form" of reparations) will NEVER happen. And this is why.--- There are WAY too MANY roadblocks involved (Politically, legally, financially, etc.). Politically,--- The Republican party & democratic party alike are against reparations. Even Obama is against reparations. And at least 80%-- 85% of Americans are against reparations. And from a "legal" standpoint,--- The time frame.--- Slavery ended back in 1865. And even ex. president, democrat Bill Clinton said that WAY too much time has passed for there to be any "payments". And in regards to the "cost".---There ISN'T any money to go around for ANY "payments". At best, you'll probably get an apology for slavery & quite possibly a slavery museum built. This is it.

Now, african Americans have ALREADY been paid reparations.---- From the 1960s till now, african Americans have been GIVEN preferential treatment in the areas of aid/assistance, college -- university admissions, job hiring & set asides. Furthermore, from the 1960s till now, african Americans have been GIVEN trillions & trillions of dollars in aid in the form of welfare, housing aid, rent assistance, health care aid, educational aid, TANEF, Section 8, AFDC, child care/day care, foster care, food stamps, free school lunches, legal aid, phone bill aid, transportation aid, affirmative action/quotas, set asides & federal jobs.

And in regards to your comment about immigrants.-- Yes, immigrants are treated better than african Americans because immigrants are considered better than african Americans. This is just the way it currently is, how it has been & how it will ALWAYS be. Fact is, MOST african Americans are considered unproductive, lazy, criminal, incompetent & irresponsible human garbage.

And you CAN'T compare the Japanese Americans & Jewish people (On the one hand) with african Americans on the other hand. And this is why.---The Japanese Americans & Jewish people who were paid reparations were the DIRECT victims. They WEREN'T the GREAT, GREAT, GREAT, GREAT descendants.

You say "We are the most talented people on earth".-- Now, african Americans do dominate in basketball, some positions in football & in r & b & hip hop. And granted, there are some "professional" african Americans. However, MOST african Americans CAN'T survive nor function on their own merit(s). MOST african Americans NEED the aid/assistance of the federal gov't (The White, Hispanic, Asian, Native American & Pacific Islander taxpayers) for their survival. MOST african Americans NEED the federal gov't for aid & for jobs.

And in regards to your "claim" (VERY false "claim" at this) that african Americans "invented" a lot of things.---- http://www33.brinkster.com/iiiii/inventions/ .

You say "We are not accepted to my knowledge by any african country as countrymen".--- You are ABSOLUTELY correct about this. And even foreign born blacks in American (Nigerians, Ethiopians, Eritreans, Somalians, Senegalese, Ghanians, Caribbean born blacks & South American born blacks) distance themselves from african Americans. MOST foreign born blacks consider MOST african Americans to be a bunch of pathetic losers.
Johnny

Burlington, WI

#4 Nov 29, 2008
chopchop, "A continuation".--- You say "We (african Americans) are the biggest consumers in this country & possibly the world".---- You are correct about this brotha. However though, ONE VERY CRITICAL flaw though.--- And this is it.---WAY over 95% of what african Americans spend their money with (businesses), THESE businesses are NOT african American owned. Subsequently, african Americans DON'T spend their money with "their people" (african Americans). african Americans throw their money "outside" their "community". african Americans don't keep their money inside their "community".

You say "The founding fathers were black if the real story be told".--- This here is ANOTHER leftwing, pro-black, pro-afrocentric lie here.

You say "We don't die we multiply".--- Even "if" this is the case, "your people" (african Americans) having kids currently hasn't, it didn't & it will NEVER translate into "REAL" power in America.--- aka/ala -- Who controls the VERY critical Intelligence Services, military, security forces, police, raw material/natural resource base & industry (Heavy industry & light industry). Actually, african Americans having kids has been a VERY good supply of "labor" within Americas jail/prison -- industrial complex.

“Jersey Girl ”

Since: Sep 08

Jersey Baby!!!

#5 Nov 29, 2008
If you could get them how could you put a price on them?? And you would have to prove that your family were slaves. Can you do that with gov. recognition???? There are no records of who was and wasnt a slave. Its too hard for the gov. to do that. I just dont see that happening.
Johnny

Burlington, WI

#6 Nov 29, 2008
chopchop, here's some reality for you brotha.---

african Americans "future" in America is going to be VERY, VERY, VERY bleak. And it is going to be VERY bleak because of 2 CRITICAL factors.--- 1. Americas VASTLY growing Hispanic population. 2. The prison -- industrial complex. For 1, since at least the late 1970s, MANY african Americans have been outsourced by Hispanics ("Legal" as well as "illegal") for aid, jobs, housing & health care. And since at least the late 1970s, MANY african Americans have been 'forced' into the prison -- industrial complex.

And there WON'T be enough aid, jobs, housing, health care, etc. to go around. And which group will be affected -- impacted the WORST by this??--- african Americans. african Americans currently are at & have ALWAYS been at the bottom of Americas "food chain". And african Americans are the last hired & first fired. And when White America gets a cold, the african American "community" gets pnemonia or cancer.

Furthermore, for over a year now, Hispanics (Primarily Mexicans, Central & South Americans) have begun a campaign of "racial cleansing" of african Americans from California & other areas of the Southwest.--- http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/... & http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2... .. And what is currently happening out in California & other areas of the Southwest WILL be spreading out to other areas of America in years to come (Due to Americas VASTLY changing demographics).

However, the 2 CRITICAL factors which has DEFINITELY sealed african Americans "fate" in America is --- 1. Americas VASTLY growing Hispanic population (Hispanics outsourcing african Americans for aid, jobs, housing & health care). 2. The prison -- industrial complex. Upon MANY more african Americans not having aid, jobs, housing & health care, they will be 'forced' into the prison -- industrial complex. FURTHER destroying the african American "family".

Actually, Louis Farrakhan on the leftwing & Ted Hayes on the Rightwing have said that african Americans "future" in America is going to be VERY bleak due to outsourcing & due to the prison -- industrial complex. And Farrakhan & Hayes have said that outsourcing & the prison -- industrial complex currently is & has destroyed the african American "community" from within. And Farrakhan & Hayes are 150% correct about this.

“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#7 Nov 29, 2008
Johnny-boy my family first of all was never enslaved by no man. My last name is Moor-man. Black man. Why do you choose to attack the messenger rather the message. Obviously, you don't know the real history but that bullshit they teach. Most people in this country must find a Moorman then they can trace their roots. Furthermore, my daughter is name Makeda her mother is Ethiopian, my son Marques is Eriterean, my twin boys are Leban and Jamal from Somalia. I am man you are mankind m/f. The Government still owe us money from the Revolutionary, Civil War & War of 1812. 30-years after slavery black people invented the modern way of life that gay as white people like you take credit for.
Rev Ken

Grand Saline, TX

#8 Nov 29, 2008
I just do not understand the giving money to people that is not alive anymore. giving reparations to blacks is like giving it to Italians, Irish, Scottish which all came here as indentured servents. At least slaves got roofs over their heads, food to eat, medical care, clothes to wear and JObs. then they collected welfare checks for years. They have already been paid. the other nationalities that came over had to fend for themselves from the beginning.
baby

Ephrata, PA

#9 Nov 29, 2008
no black people shouldn't they got enough! a black prsident

“Jersey Girl ”

Since: Sep 08

Jersey Baby!!!

#10 Nov 29, 2008
baby wrote:
no black people shouldn't they got enough! a black prsident
pensyltucky stop being racist against people. There is no need for that.

“Jersey Girl ”

Since: Sep 08

Jersey Baby!!!

#11 Nov 29, 2008
Rev Ken wrote:
I just do not understand the giving money to people that is not alive anymore. giving reparations to blacks is like giving it to Italians, Irish, Scottish which all came here as indentured servents. At least slaves got roofs over their heads, food to eat, medical care, clothes to wear and JObs. then they collected welfare checks for years. They have already been paid. the other nationalities that came over had to fend for themselves from the beginning.
you are right on one thing they are not alive to get checks but to say that all blacks are on wefare is b.s. Why would you say that?? You just make yourself sound ignorant.

“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#12 Nov 29, 2008
baby wrote:
no black people shouldn't they got enough! a black prsident
See you must be a product of American school system. The founding fathers were black.

“Winchester Model 1894”

Since: Apr 07

Roy, Washington

#13 Nov 29, 2008
loveblkmen wrote:
If you could get them how could you put a price on them?? And you would have to prove that your family were slaves. Can you do that with gov. recognition???? There are no records of who was and wasnt a slave. Its too hard for the gov. to do that. I just dont see that happening.
History has recorded that many, if not most Africans were captured and enslaved by their own people and sent to the colonies, but that's not the point.

These slaves had to endure generations of bad treatment and humiliation.

However! "What if?" What if this had never happened? What if those Africans had never been brought here to do our bidding?

There are many brilliant African Americans that have contributed to the growth of the United States, how did they get here?

As tragic as history seems to be, there's always another way to look at things.

“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#14 Nov 29, 2008
Johnny-Boy also must people are taught they brought Black people over here from Africa. Most black people were already here. They were kidnapped from the North taken South and vice versa. Black people have been here before the Persians or Alexander went into Egypt Also, Ethiopian was the name Europeans called Africa. The only reason the rest of Africa is not called Ethiopian because they were colonized. Ethi(burnt) ops(face). The land of the burnt face people. Africa is like calling them the "N" word. The K is silent yet not forgotten. Keep listening you might learn the real story instead of his-story
SICK OF IT

Deshler, OH

#16 Nov 29, 2008
Get a job. Pull you pants up. Know want to see your boxers. Be a man!! Stop asking for hand outs.
baby

Ephrata, PA

#17 Nov 29, 2008
loveblkmen wrote:
<quoted text> pensyltucky stop being racist against people. There is no need for that.
wasn't but no iam! what you black or mix or something but american! leaving room...got better things to do!

“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#18 Nov 29, 2008
Rev Ken wrote:
I just do not understand the giving money to people that is not alive anymore. giving reparations to blacks is like giving it to Italians, Irish, Scottish which all came here as indentured servents. At least slaves got roofs over their heads, food to eat, medical care, clothes to wear and JObs. then they collected welfare checks for years. They have already been paid. the other nationalities that came over had to fend for themselves from the beginning.
As if they didn't have that before the European came. All of these other people were not abused like the American Black people are. The New York Stock Market was a slave market. Also they built most American cities 3-5 times. All of the those other people land was not stolen from them. The Black People are in the same boat as Native American are. Actually, the Native Americans are in the veins of Black People

EnochSpeaks

“MARRIAGE IS 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN”

Since: Nov 08

Chicago

#19 Nov 29, 2008
Our forebears who suffered greatly under the harsh rules of Slavery are history now and we must move forward.
Education must be the main-stay of our community and we must train our youths to prepare to be the face of the new America.
President-elect Obama is only the beginning. We as a people must prepare our children to be Lawyers, Doctors, Nurses, Engineers, Computer Programmers, etc, etc,.
Education must be first in the minds of our children and those involved in their upbringing.
No excuses!
EnochSpeaks
baby

Ephrata, PA

#20 Nov 29, 2008
SICK OF IT wrote:
Get a job. Pull you pants up. Know want to see your boxers. Be a man!! Stop asking for hand outs.
fall over chair.. can't brealth...still laughing..okay i'm done now woow that was good!

EnochSpeaks

“MARRIAGE IS 1 MAN and 1 WOMAN”

Since: Nov 08

Chicago

#21 Nov 29, 2008

“Ethiopian-Moor”

Since: Nov 08

--VA

#22 Nov 29, 2008
SICK OF IT wrote:
Get a job. Pull you pants up. Know want to see your boxers. Be a man!! Stop asking for hand outs.
Actually, my pants are up and I have worked for myself almost the last 20-years. Before your KKK killed my people and stole our wealth our women had never worked outside our family

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