Why are Atheist so incredibly angry?

[MPL]

Because someone stole their wallets?

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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Hate atheists? No. Distrust and despise them? yes. Over tens of million of people have died by the direct action of atheists throughout the world, more than all the religious wars in all of history combined. Have we forgotten the socialists and communists are atheists? Atheists have proven to be as ruthless dogmatic, oppressive, fanatical, and zealous as any religion. They have become a religion.
I don't need to be a Christian, Muslims, or Jew to recognize a intellectual holy war when I see one. I's sure many atheists are not Marxist, but most are indeed Marxist or influenced by Marxist culture, and are the most violent people around the world by far.

How many people have been killed in the name of religion throughout history?

I couldn't help but notice, but you didn't answer my question, are you a christian?

[hinamanu]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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How many people have been killed in the name of religion throughout history?
I couldn't help but notice, but you didn't answer my question, are you a christian?

they kill in the name of God but don't truly represent God.

Jesus warned his disciples that there would be some who would persecute, imprison and even kill them thinking they were doing God a favor (John 16:3).

[Not an angry atheist]

Where do you get that notion from? I for one am not angry. Why waste my energy on such trivial matters.

And your voting poll is totally prejudiced, by the way, with no option of defense to the contrary.

[follower of Christ]

JustWow wrote:

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So you agree with the similarities in belief between theists and atheists?
And, now just want to push it off on I don't understand you while you not understanding the point?
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As do I.
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Now, it seems it is you making an assumption about me.
But, I have a question for you.
Why defend a position you do not hold as your own?
Why such strong feelings on the definition of atheism if you yourself do not hold that position?
You state you lack belief and are agnostic. On this we agree, the only group that lacks a belief at all are the agnostics. Yet, at the same time you defend wholeheartedly that it is actually the atheists that lack belief.

Wow refer back to that same question on a thread about gay life style!
I think it is a valid question thanks for asking it here.

[Idi O Syncrasy]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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Yo Idi, haven't seen you around in awhile.

I went off backpacking in the High Sierra's, pretty peaceful in the big granite.
Found an isolated trail to where there was nobody but me, the woods, a cascading waterfall and some bears.
Funny thing, I couldn't find an atheist amongst the Ursidae Americanus.
Pretty good company, overall, except they kept staring at my food.

[Burrow Owl]

Idi O Syncrasy wrote:

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Funny thing, I couldn't find an atheist amongst the Ursidae Americanus.

Now that's batsh!t crazy- even for a fundy.

How can a bear be anything *but* an atheist?

[Xcntrik InVidor]

hinamanu wrote:

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they kill in the name of God but don't truly represent God.

They always think they do, just like you think you do.

No difference.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Idi O Syncrasy wrote:

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I went off backpacking in the High Sierra's, pretty peaceful in the big granite.
Found an isolated trail to where there was nobody but me, the woods, a cascading waterfall and some bears.
Funny thing, I couldn't find an atheist amongst the Ursidae Americanus.
Pretty good company, overall, except they kept staring at my food.

Sounds like a great trip.

You sure do hate atheists, huh?

Strange, must be fear.

Are you afraid that you're actually an atheist?

[Yankee Yahoo]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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How many people have been killed in the name of religion throughout history?
I couldn't help but notice, but you didn't answer my question, are you a christian?

The number of people that died in the name of religion throughout history is insignificant compared to all that died by the hands of atheists in the Twentieth Century, perhaps only a fraction.

And I'm not going to answer your question because you are merely looking for a back door argument rather than arguing on the merits of the facts. The most glaring fact is that atheists have killed more people and caused the most amount of misery in the world. You are welcome to convince me otherwise, I will listen to any valid argument NOT based on passionate hatred.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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The number of people that died in the name of religion throughout history is insignificant compared to all that died by the hands of atheists

Thanks for showing your ignorance and prejudice.

[Yankee Yahoo]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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Thanks for showing your ignorance and prejudice.

Really? As I said, I will listen to any valid argument, and you don't have one, do you? So every historian that wrote about both World Wars and the various Marxist revolutions around the world are ignorant AND prejudice? I don't think so.

I merely stated the obvious facts of history. Most of the murderous regimes in recent history were motivated by atheist political movements. Very easy to kill people and get soldiers to kill people when they have no fear of the afterlife, isn't it? Basically, remove the religion entirely, and atheists have no fear of the consequence of their actions, because they believe in no morality. Much easier for oppressive governments to control a population when the population believes they came from a primordial goo millions of years ago.

Prejudice? No, I do not judge individuals by any standard. One of the greatest philosophers in American history was an atheist, Ayn Rand. But unlike most atheists, she believed in a moral code of some kind ... unlike those atheists that controlled concentration camps.

Don't try and play the prejudice card with me. Most atheists are utter and completely prejudice when it comes to those of faith. You attempt to pin me as a Christian was nothing more than the first step in proving YOUR prejudice and ignorance, which you were all too eager to use against me.

So, let me know when you have some real arguments, instead of pathetic one-liners.

[Xcntrik InVidor]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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Really? As I said, I will listen to any valid argument, and you don't have one, do you? So every historian that wrote about both World Wars and the various Marxist revolutions around the world are ignorant AND prejudice? I don't think so.
I merely stated the obvious facts of history. Most of the murderous regimes in recent history were motivated by atheist political movements. Very easy to kill people and get soldiers to kill people when they have no fear of the afterlife, isn't it? Basically, remove the religion entirely, and atheists have no fear of the consequence of their actions, because they believe in no morality. Much easier for oppressive governments to control a population when the population believes they came from a primordial goo millions of years ago.
Prejudice? No, I do not judge individuals by any standard. One of the greatest philosophers in American history was an atheist, Ayn Rand. But unlike most atheists, she believed in a moral code of some kind ... unlike those atheists that controlled concentration camps.
Don't try and play the prejudice card with me. Most atheists are utter and completely prejudice when it comes to those of faith. You attempt to pin me as a Christian was nothing more than the first step in proving YOUR prejudice and ignorance, which you were all too eager to use against me.
So, let me know when you have some real arguments, instead of pathetic one-liners.

Nah, you're just trying to fit your argument into your propaganda. Religion has been used for controlling and killing people for thousands of years. You're only referencing about a hundred year period of time.

It's ok, just admit it, you just hate atheists. You'll feel better when you confront your own prejudices.

[Mind_Freak]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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Really? As I said, I will listen to any valid argument, and you don't have one, do you? So every historian that wrote about both World Wars and the various Marxist revolutions around the world are ignorant AND prejudice? I don't think so.
I merely stated the obvious facts of history. Most of the murderous regimes in recent history were motivated by atheist political movements. Very easy to kill people and get soldiers to kill people when they have no fear of the afterlife, isn't it? Basically, remove the religion entirely, and atheists have no fear of the consequence of their actions, because they believe in no morality. Much easier for oppressive governments to control a population when the population believes they came from a primordial goo millions of years ago.
Prejudice? No, I do not judge individuals by any standard. One of the greatest philosophers in American history was an atheist, Ayn Rand. But unlike most atheists, she believed in a moral code of some kind ... unlike those atheists that controlled concentration camps.
Don't try and play the prejudice card with me. Most atheists are utter and completely prejudice when it comes to those of faith. You attempt to pin me as a Christian was nothing more than the first step in proving YOUR prejudice and ignorance, which you were all too eager to use against me.
So, let me know when you have some real arguments, instead of pathetic one-liners.

Hell, that doesn't sound Prejudice against Atheists at all.

:P

[Yankee Yahoo]

Xcntrik InVidor wrote:

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Nah, you're just trying to fit your argument into your propaganda. Religion has been used for controlling and killing people for thousands of years. You're only referencing about a hundred year period of time.
It's ok, just admit it, you just hate atheists. You'll feel better when you confront your own prejudices.

Maybe you need help with the English language? A handy dictionary perhaps? It's not my argument, and not my propaganda. All I've mentioned are historical facts.

The last hundred years more people died by the hands of atheists than ALL murders in human history combined. Did you not understand that? Do I have to type slower? You're still playing the prejudice card? That's all you have? Never mind that there's no such thing as PRE-judging history. It's already written.

[short_b]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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Maybe you need help with the English language? A handy dictionary perhaps? It's not my argument, and not my propaganda. All I've mentioned are historical facts.
The last hundred years more people died by the hands of atheists than ALL murders in human history combined. Did you not understand that? Do I have to type slower? You're still playing the prejudice card? That's all you have? Never mind that there's no such thing as PRE-judging history. It's already written.

A link to a reputable site would be nice.

[froggy]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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The number of people that died in the name of religion throughout history is insignificant compared to all that died by the hands of atheists in the Twentieth Century, perhaps only a fraction.
And I'm not going to answer your question because you are merely looking for a back door argument rather than arguing on the merits of the facts. The most glaring fact is that atheists have killed more people and caused the most amount of misery in the world. You are welcome to convince me otherwise, I will listen to any valid argument NOT based on passionate hatred.

I contend that you and I are both athiests. I merely reject one more God than you do.

[Mind_Freak]

Yankee Yahoo wrote:

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Maybe you need help with the English language? A handy dictionary perhaps? It's not my argument, and not my propaganda. All I've mentioned are historical facts.
The last hundred years more people died by the hands of atheists than ALL murders in human history combined. Did you not understand that? Do I have to type slower? You're still playing the prejudice card? That's all you have? Never mind that there's no such thing as PRE-judging history. It's already written.

OK, I'm curious, exactly how many people HAVE been killed by Atheists since 1908? Please provide sources. To make a fair judgement, we will also need the number of people murdered by non-atheists in the history of humanity. Please provide sources for the info also.

[Yankee Yahoo]

short_b wrote:

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A link to a reputable site would be nice.

You've got to be kidding, right? I guess start with the French Revolution, then work your way through European history of that time period to the Russian Revolution. Don't forget all the greatest atheist philosophers like Nietzsche (who inspired Hitler and many more tyrants), Freud, Marx, Engle, etc. Now, how many people died? 25 mil in Russia, up to another 40 mil in China. Considering all the smaller Marxist (atheist) revolutions, some say up to 100 mil. Marxist atheist terrorist groups are still rampant throughout much of the world.

Now, in history, the average battle between opposing forces averaged about a couple of thousand. Huge, epic battles ended with the Roman Empire, and even then were outdated. Persia was the last Empire to muster and army of about 250,000, and that was a stretch. More likely only a 100,000. Not everyone died in these many battles, generally only about a third to half, unless it was a complete rout. By the time the Roman Empire collapsed only about a forth of the population survived. Middle-Age battles were pathetically small, and no where near in the millions as they were in the 1900's.

So if the largest army in ancient times was only 250,000, and they got progressively smaller until the 1900's, how does even the lowest figure of 50,000,000 in such a short period of time compare? It doesn't. Even Genghis Khan, blamed for perhaps a few million people, if creditable, could not compare. The Crusades do not even come close, the Catholic Church could only dream of putting so many infidels to death, never even approaching a million in their entire history of crusading and mass murders.

You want creditable sources? How about ALL books written by ANY historian on these events?

For at least one website I could find quickly, here it is: http://members.aol.com/XianAnarch/humanism/dr...

Of course, that is a site biased towards Catholics, whom I do NOT defend. But the evidence is still undeniable.

[Yankee Yahoo]

Mind_Freak wrote:

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OK, I'm curious, exactly how many people HAVE been killed by Atheists since 1908? Please provide sources. To make a fair judgement, we will also need the number of people murdered by non-atheists in the history of humanity. Please provide sources for the info also.

Possibly as many as 100,000,000, see my other post. For comparison, there is none. Western Civilization did not even have a city with a million people until the end of the Nineteenth Century, so non-atheists could not even have approached anything close even if they tried.