Prove there's a god.
Jewbacca

United States

#778242 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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What, do you think the mother and/or father of the baby get inside the uterus and actually assemble it and/or transform it?
Your line of questioning is getting a little topsy-turvy, Chewy.
You cannot escape the fact that men and women do not create babies, we reproduce them. After the man ejaculates his sperm into the vaginal canal, it becomes autonomic.
Do I think a mother gets inside her own uterus? You think my line of questioning is getting a little topsy-turvy?

If procreation is not the creation of new life, how can anything we transform and/or assemble be considered a creation?

After pushing a button at the factory, the rest is automatic. Can man create anything this way?

After mixing the two chemicals, the rest is automatic. Can man create anything this way?

Why do you exclude life from the list of things that mankind can create?
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778243 Sep 8, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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That is perhaps the biggest load of diarrhea you have ever vomited
Did you actually notice my wording in the post... nope, you just felt you had an excuse to lie... chuckle... you dumb fool.
The swastika as early Christian symbol:

http://www.tribuneindia.com/1999/99may23/sund...

It was an archaic custom to mark the tombs with this symbol or to place vases with Swastika symbols in tombs. It was performed to ensure the safety of the departed soul or to fend off demonic spirits. Subsequently, the Swastika was replaced by the Cross.

It was revived by Hitler when he made it the national emblem of Nazi Germany. He believed that this ancient Aryan sign brought prosperity and victory.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778244 Sep 8, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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And it takes at least a month before you're worth a shekel.
"And thy estimation shall be of the male from twenty years old even unto sixty years old, even thy estimation shall be fifty shekels of silver, after the shekel of the sanctuary. And if it be a female, then thy estimation shall be thirty shekels.If it be from five years even to twenty years old then your valuation for the male shall be twenty shekels and for the female ten shekels. But if they are from a month even up to five years old, then your valuation shall be five shekels of silver for the male, and for the female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver. If they are from sixty years old and upward, if it is a male, then your valuation shall be fifteen shekels, and for the female ten shekels." - Leviticus 27:3-7
Women are worth about half of what men are worth, and nobody’s worth a cent until they&#146;re a month old.
Moreover, the bible bible calls abortion harmless if nobody outside the womb is harmed, and recognizes the fetus not as a life, but as property, since a fine compensates for the loss of a fetus.
“When men strive together and hit a pregnant woman, so that her children come out, but there is no harm, the one who hit her shall surely be fined, as the woman's husband shall impose on him, and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if there is harm, then you shall pay life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe." - Exodus 21:22-25 http://www.biblestudytools.com/exodus/21-22-c...
Christianity is a fraud. It pretends to have a god that it learns from and obeys, but it simply makes crap up and point its gnarly finger at those that it chooses to scapegoat. May it go on life support soon.
Thanks IANS

Especially for the scripture references - I'll save them for future use.

Are you aware of Jehovah's test for an unfaithful wife?

If you've got the intestinal fortitude, the whole sordid account can be read in Numbers 5:11-31 - where you'll read about abortion that carries the Jehovah seal of approval...

“may the Lord cause you to become a curse[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”

If the Bible god considered a foetus to be alive would he have sanctioned the above action?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778245 Sep 8, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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Of course you should, boy.
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's goods or wife
Etc.
So you think as an atheist that you can break those laws?
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's goods?

The America you Christians love so much was built on wanting possessions that other people had.

That's why capitalism flourished.

If people obeyed that commandment and didn't covet anything, America would be quite different.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778246 Sep 8, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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Only the ten commandments apply to Christians today. The others were ceremonial laws and rules which only applied to Jews.
As for morality Jesus put it in one sentence "Love your neighbour like yourself"
What morality rules do atheists have?
What about the "Honour thy father and mother" commandment? What if you father is Josef Fritzl? I'm sure you remember him.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

Do you honestly believe that Fritzl's daughters should still honour that man? If you do then your sense of morality, is pretty degenerate.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778247 Sep 8, 2014
dirty white boy- wrote:
<quoted text> Doctrine..
Have you got an appointment?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778248 Sep 8, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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Among other things, the head of the catholic church is the pope, the head of the christian church is Jesus.
There are the sacraments in the catholic church, the clergy, confession of sins to a priest, and many more differences which the Christian church does not have.
There are also nuns in the Catholic church, in case you decide to become one and lead a life of chastity.
Catholics are Christians.

As are Mormons, KKK, Unitarians, Amish, JW's and thousands of other denominations, cults and sects that huddle under the banner of Christianity.

Funny how they can never reach an agreement on just what a Christian is.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778249 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Oh. So when Hitler was burning churches, destroying Christian Bibles and killing Christians, that was him "remaining Christian all his life" to you?
The most "Christian" of his actions was the slaughter of the Jews.

Quite simply, Christians believe that Jews murdered Jesus, It's no wonder that the Jews have been the subject of intolerance, hatred and murder since the early years of the Christian Church. Hardly surprising that anti-Semitism became an integral part of Christian doctrine.

The Church passed various laws and enactments which stripped away any rights that the Jews had. Christians accused the Jews of the most vile and evil crimes, leading to the insane idea of the "blood libel" - something so evil and twisted it could only have come from the Christian Church.

Try looking up "Host Desecration" if you want a laugh at further Christian stupidity and ignorance. We all know the cannibalistic side of Christians who genuinely believed that the crackers they would eat transformed into the body of Jesus. Such was the level of Christian insanity that they believed the Jews would want to torture these crackers in an attempt to hurt the body of Christ.

Both the Blood Libel and the Host Desecration led to the deaths of thousands of Jews.

Didn't the Catholic Church charge the entire Jewish people with deicide? I'm sure that would have fired up even greater levels of hatred in those christian heads.

No wonder Hitler targeted the Jews. He was simply taking the hatred and murderous intolerance of the Christian Church to new levels of insanity.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#778250 Sep 8, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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Have you got an appointment?
Nope

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778251 Sep 8, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you would like to explain how those passages disagree with science? They in no way describe the birth of babies. They describe the animating of the previously inanimate, those not yet alive, or those who were previously alive but then died. A human fetus that is growing inside its mother is at no time "inanimate" or dead. It receives all the oxygen it needs through the umbilical cord so there is no need to breathe.
You really should leave arguing to the young, or have you always been this ineffective at it?
Except that you are speaking with the advantage of knowing the science.

That wasn't the case thousands of years ago.

Now, get back into your kennel, please.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778252 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Ok so I exaggerated on the POS part. Big deal. Atheists HAVE been describing the mother as a host and the child as a parasite, like you do below:
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Well then.
"It's just as parasitic as a parasite."
That settles the debate.
medical dictionary definition of parasite:

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.c...

parasite /par·a·site/(par´ah-s&#299 ;t)
1. a plant or animal that lives upon or within another living organism at whose expense it obtains some advantage; see symbiosis.
2. the smaller, less complete member of asymmetrical conjoined twins, attached to and dependent upon the autosite.parasit´ic

obligatory parasite one that is entirely dependent on a host for its survival.

1. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.
2. In conjoined twins, the usually incomplete twin that derives its support from the more nearly normal fetus.

An organism that lives in or with another organism, called the host, in parasitism, a type of association characterized by the parasite obtaining benefits from the host, such as food, and the host being injured as a result.

an organism living in or on and obtaining nourishment from another organism. A facultative parasite may live on a host but is capable of living independently. An obligate parasite is one that depends entirely on its host for survival.
2 See parasitic fetus. parasitic, adj.

a plant or animal that lives upon or within another living organism at whose expense it obtains some advantage; see also symbiosis. Parasites include multicelled and single-celled animals, fungi, and bacteria, and some authorities also include viruses.Those that feed upon human hosts can cause diseases ranging from the mildly annoying to the severe or even fatal.

etc., etc.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778253 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Right. God created Ebola.
In 1976....
The same god that doesn't exist, right?
I don't believe in yours nor anyone else's god/goddess.

However, you have stated that your god created every single creature.

You have also stated that your god loves mankind so much it hurts.

It's a weird kind of love that creates microscopic organisms that kill humans. Not to mention parasitic worms that tunnel their way into your eye.

Looks like your definition of "love" needs to be reviewed.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778254 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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paranoia
noun
a tendency on the part of an individual toward excessive or irrational suspiciousness and distrustfulness of others
That sucks.
How cute. I've noticed that very trait in some people when some other people use the word "parasite" to describe a fetus with both accepted dictionary and medical definitions.

They seem to think it's a sly way to set the stage for abortions.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#778255 Sep 8, 2014
Khatru wrote:
What's up?
Looks up.
Is this what you say when you can't pass something off as a law that's been "fulfilled" (whatever that's supposed to mean)?
fulfill
Bring to completion.

Seriously? I had to tell you that??
Fact: The Bible says that we are not alive until we breathe.


That is NOT a fact.

The Bible teaches us that not only does life begin at conception, but God knows who we are even before then.
Like I said, I can't blame you for not believing what the Bible says and that you find the explanation from science too compelling.
M'kay pumpkin.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#778256 Sep 8, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
The 1st Denomination of Atheists United in Christ.
Sect #40,001.
Haha! Okay,'twas funny!

"Atheists United in Christ"....
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778257 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Aw :(
Chick-fil-A founder S. Truett Cathy dies at age 93
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2014/09/08/chi...
See what happens to people who discriminate against homosexuals?

Early death syndrome.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#778258 Sep 8, 2014
Rellowes wrote:
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Most likely it is. Atheists breed quick.
Given that the majority of the world's Christians don't use contraception, it's safe to say that whatever rate atheists breed at, it pales into insignificance when compared to the speed at which Christians multiply

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#778259 Sep 8, 2014
Jewbacca wrote:
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Do I think a mother gets inside her own uterus? You think my line of questioning is getting a little topsy-turvy?
If procreation is not the creation of new life, how can anything we transform and/or assemble be considered a creation?
After pushing a button at the factory, the rest is automatic. Can man create anything this way?
After mixing the two chemicals, the rest is automatic. Can man create anything this way?
Why do you exclude life from the list of things that mankind can create?
Ugh dude. C'mon. Answer this:

Do we transform and/or assemble procreation?

Your trying to make an analogy between man creating a factory and man creating life. Why?
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778260 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Later.
Don't fly a Malaysian plane over Iraqi air space, your buddies out there will give you a warm welcome....
That would be Ukraine, not Iraq.

Know what you're posting before you post it.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#778261 Sep 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Well sure, some people give a shit. His story is the perfect American Dream story. Literally from rags to riches with nothing more than an idea.
How cute. The guy who's not impressed with, nor seeks nor cares about financial success,,admiring financial success.

Quaint.

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