Prove there's a god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776649 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
I still find it strange that you toss in a random Hebrew word into an otherwise English written sentence.
It wasn't random. Here's a random Hebrew word: eikh

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776650 Sep 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
I would really like to cooperate, but I didn't see those beans assemble anything. I saw them develop from one stage to another.

as·sem·ble
: to connect or put together the parts of (something, such as a toy or machine)
The beans self-assembled. No gods were necessary.
Cheetah

Msida, Malta

#776651 Sep 4, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
<quoted text>
Welcome, cheetah seemed to think that it had religious meaning. and we all know better.
Quite the contrary, it was your atheist colleague who said that the Swastika was a Christian symbol, not me. And you unwittingly proved me right.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776652 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Do you think that connecting humanism with brutal, authoritarian, dogmatic regimes will make Christianity seem more palatable by comparison?
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Well considering atheist leaders/governments have committed more genocide in the past hundred years then in all religions and civilizations throughout history, I would have to answer yes.
I was discussing secular humanist, which are a subset of atheists, which are a subset of human beings, which are a subset of animals, which are a subset of living things, which are a subset of material things. When you get tired of slandering humanist by citing vile atheists, you might try other hypernyms, like slandering humanists by citing vile animals. Whatever it takes to save Christianity from itself, huh?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776653 Sep 4, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
Prove it. Now the burden is on you.
Prove what?

I have no burden.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776654 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Which amendments did the Court pen?
Buck Crick wrote:
1. The one that prohibits a teacher leading a class in prayer.
2. The one that prohibits placing a manger scene on a courthouse lawn.
3. The one that gives a woman a right to have an abortion.
4. The right to privacy.
5. The one that applies the First Amendment to states.
6. The one that says CO2 is a pollutant.
That's 6 off the top of my head.
I don't seem to be able to find those amendments. What are their numbers?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776655 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
I didn't see any self-assembly, either. I saw an existing mung bean, then I saw it germinate through a time lapse photography. Where was the self-assembly of the bean?
Raw materials were pulled out of a medium and assembled into a sprout. Buck's definition included this: "assemble - to connect or put together the parts". It is unbelievable that you and Buck have to be told this.

Faith does violence to a mind.

Have you ever seen those devices with a spike that you pierce into through an egg shell and it scrambles the egg in the shell? http://www.popeilfamilystore.com/egg.html

They might as well call those things faith spikes, and faith based thinkers might as well sink one into each ear.
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Again, the bean was already assembled.
Again, the sprout was not.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776656 Sep 4, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
Hahaha. Not gonna happen, but thanks for the humor. Look, it's an atheist comedian. You deserve? No, you don't.
Get a real job and support your children.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#776657 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't you like it when the President says the words "So help me God" even though they don't have to? I think it's great.
Most of our military personnel end their oaths similarly.
It's awesome.
Some change comes slowly, so gloating while you still can is something we understand.

Perhaps it won't happen in your lifetime, but the day will come when a President will choose not to say those words - as is already increasingly occurring in other areas, including the US military, where more and more enlistees are realizing they don't have to?
Did you know that the number of Americans who claim to be religious has dropped by 13% in the seven-year period from 2005 to 2012, while atheism increased 500% during the same time? And that 15 percent of Americans said they have no religion -- different from being a "confirmed atheist," but nonetheless up from 8 percent in 1990?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/14/athe...

(PS: A great many Christians - even according to you - are in name only, and essentially are doing nothing more that rote lip service when they utter phrases such as "so help me God".)

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776658 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
IANS? What have atheists done in America that qualifies them to "deserve" that?
We've endured Christianity.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#776659 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
But you know law doesn't need interpretation?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
It's pretty cut and dry.
Cheetah wrote:
That rule only mentions Congress, it does not bind the government, or anyone else from doing so, including State legislators. Unless there is a similar clause mentioning these entities.
Correct. It prevents Congress from establishing a national religion.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#776660 Sep 4, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
You have to keep on watching, till it forms a new plant, blooms, and then makes new mung beans, much like the green beans I grow every summer, or tomatoes, or squash. They make themselves. I put a seed in the ground, give it good soil, sun and water, and a plant comes up, reproduces and has a fruit with self assembled seeds for the next generation.
I didn't catch even one little god out there in my garden putting seeds into the plants.
You're describing genetic replication, not self-assembly.

Self-assembly would be if that would-be mung bean took all the elements it needed to become a mung bean and put them together in the right quantity and order to become a mung bean.

There was no self-assembly.

RiversideRedneck

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#776661 Sep 4, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
Welcome, cheetah seemed to think that it had religious meaning. and we all know better.
Ok, fair enough. I wasn't paying that much attention to y'alls conversation.

RiversideRedneck

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#776662 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Tide exists, but there are no married bachelors.
BZZZT! Tide is a married bachelor. Why? Because I described him that way.

So is my description faulty?
Likewise, my toaster has been described as an omniscient, omnipotent god named Jehovah that loves people perfectly yet lets them suffer needlessly anyway.
Not a Walmart product, I assume.
The toaster exists, but not Jehovah. Go figure.
That's just anecdotal and subjective evidence. How do I know your toaster exists?
And you'll forgive me if I choose to not worship it.
Pffft. It's an omniscient f*cking toaster. Wants wrong with you?!

Oh wait, it doesn't exist. Never mind.
Incidentally. this has been as great an argument for the existence of your god as the one about Stalin is against atheism.
This is not an argument for the existence of God. This is an argument to try and help you understand that just because something is described a certain way doesn't mean that thing IS that certain way.

Capisce?

Since: Dec 12

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#776663 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>We've endured Christianity.
Lol, have we ever.

http://i.imgur.com/KGvKjgI.jpg

RiversideRedneck

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Since: Jul 12

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#776664 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
It wasn't random. Here's a random Hebrew word: eikh
You're a strange 'îs.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

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#776665 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:

I was discussing secular humanist, which are a subset of atheists, which are a subset of human beings, which are a subset of animals, which are a subset of living things, which are a subset of material things.
Sort of like begat things?
When you get tired of slandering humanists by citing vile atheists, you might try other hypernyms, like slandering humanists by citing vile animals. Whatever it takes to save Christianity from itself, huh?
Haha. Don't be such a f*ckin hypocrite. You slander all Christians for acts of few all the time. I was giving you a dose of your own medicine and it seems like you've caught on to the ridiculousness of it. Let's see if that holds....

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#776666 Sep 4, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
You have demonstrated exactly what I have stated about you, that you are an evil, lying, deceptive snake/serpent.
You are a societal parasite. Get off the Internet and go out and support your children. The people supporting your spawn for you have steady work. Why don't you, parasite?

RiversideRedneck

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#776667 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:

Raw materials were pulled out of a medium and assembled into a sprout. Buck's definition included this: "assemble - to connect or put together the parts". It is unbelievable that you and Buck have to be told this.


Oh. The bean put together the parts. So it's conscious? With your line of reasoning, it HAS TO BE. "To" connect or "put together" implies intelligence and consciousness.
Faith does violence to a mind.
You say that with such faith.
Have you ever seen those devices with a spike that you pierce into through an egg shell and it scrambles the egg in the shell? http://www.popeilfamilystore.com/egg.html
Yep. I've made one out of a metal coat hanger and a drill. It's a waste of time but fun to do.
They might as well call those things faith spikes, and faith based thinkers might as well sink one into each ear.


Hmm... Is that how you'd like to see the end of Christians? By bleeding their brains into mush?

Why didn't Stalin think of that!
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Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Again, the bean was already assembled.
Again, the sprout was not.
Oh so the sprout self-assembled itself? Wow. Intriguing.

RiversideRedneck

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#776668 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Get a real job and support your children.
Stop talking about gruesome ways to kill Christians.

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