Prove there's a god.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#776584 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Nah. We're humanists. Genocide comes from authoritarian regimes like theocracies. It's the Christian Dominionists and Reconstructionists that are the closest thing to Stalin in America today.
Do you think that connecting humanism with brutal, authoritarian, dogmatic regimes will make Christianity seem more palatable by comparison?
Well considering atheist leaders/governments have committed more genocide in the past hundred years then in all religions and civilizations throughout history, I would have to answer yes.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#776585 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Which amendments did the Court pen?
1. The one that prohibits a teacher leading a class in prayer.

2. The one that prohibits placing a manger scene on a courthouse lawn.

3. The one that gives a woman a right to have an abortion.

4. The right to privacy.

5. The one that applies the First Amendment to states.

6. The one that says CO2 is a pollutant.

That's 6 off the top of my head.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#776586 Sep 4, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You, Buck Crick, have the gall to accuse others of cheap smears?
I'm going to have to resort to my protocol with the Redneck.
At his request, I sometimes point out posts of his that reflect his early Christian indoctrination.
I may well begin to point out posts of yours that contain cheap smears.
By the way, I prefer to be called Fetcher; Dickface is a bit offensive.
How bout Feltcher?

Can I call you Feltcher?

Or would you prefer Feltcher1?

Or maybe FeltcherAny1?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#776587 Sep 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:

You have watched plants and animals self-assemble? I have never seen that.

It aint necessarily so wrote:

Behold: http://www.youtube.com/watch ...

Buck Crick wrote:
Nice. But I didn't see any self-assembly.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
And here it is again. You refuse to cooperate. You prefer argumentation for its own sake with no apparent interest in dialectic.
I didn't see any self-assembly, either. I saw an existing mung bean, then I saw it germinate through a time lapse photography. Where was the self-assembly of the bean?
Who do you think is assembling those mung bean seeds into mature mung bean plants?
Again, the bean was already assembled.
Jehovah (sky daddy, not the guy from California)?
You mean God.
ROCCO

Indio, CA

#776588 Sep 4, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
<quoted text>
"One nation under one God"
"In God We Trust"
and others are all declarations.
Also as far as I know a Supreme Court judge, and also the US President, is required to take an oath on the Bible before being appointed.
It is the same in US law courts, where one must take an oath on the Bible before standing for witness.
So the Bible and God are foundational in the US legal and Constitutional system.
An oath on a bible is not required by any of those persons - nor is the phrase "so help me God" at the end of the oath.

George Carlin:

“Yeah — I’ll tell you as much truth as the people who wrote that fvcking Bible, how do you like that? Swearing on the Bible doesn’t mean anything, because Bible or no Bible, God or no God, if it suits their purposes, people are going to lie in court. The police do it all the time.”

Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefait...

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#776589 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
How bout Feltcher?
Can I call you Feltcher?
Or would you prefer Feltcher1?
Or maybe FeltcherAny1?
Call me whatever you think is cuter, Redneck.

Sir is most appropriate though.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#776590 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
They have a good reason not to opine on god out loud or in mixed company. Back in the nineties, Dembski was unaware of that and let it slip.
"In God becoming human in Jesus Christ, God has established solidarity with the human condition." - William A. Dembski
It's already pseudoscience before the investigation begins because of the agenda employed in choosing and funding studies, and because the investigators understand what is expected of them whether it is stated explicitly or not, and they know how their editorials and abstracts need to read to remain in favor with the money.
Furthermore, I doubt that too many of them need their arms twisted to search for their god in the lab.
<quoted text>
Not even close. The computer you are using is evidence of the validity of the philosophy and methods of science, which are called philosophical materialism and methodological materialism. That has all been done without a god belief, and adding a god to it not only is a violation of Occams Razor - useless complexity.
Here's what faith has to offer:
"Study: Science and Religion Really Are Enemies After All - New research finds that religious countries and US states produce fewer patents per capita. Both across countries and also across US states, higher levels of religiosity are related to lower levels of scientific innovation."
http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/0...
Dembski is as free to publicly express his christian belief as is Lewontin to express his materialism and Marxism, and same as Dawkins is free to express whatever belief he has on a particular day.

That's how it works in a free society. Nobody owes you any explanation for that.

Dembski's mathematics are as valid with it or without it, same as Lewontin's genetics studies.

So there went that red herring.

On to the next. If funding sources determine pseudoscience, nearly all research is pseudoscience. The largest funding entity is the federal government.

Here's a flash - that funding source has not just one agenda, but several.

On your third red herring, look up the terms "coincide" and "causality".

Dembski and Behe are tolerant of other beliefs. That's rare in science.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

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#776591 Sep 4, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Call me whatever you think is cuter, Redneck.
Sir is most appropriate though.
Sir Feltcher ?

Ok I'll call you that once you've been knighted.

Deal?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#776592 Sep 4, 2014
ROCCO wrote:
<quoted text>
An oath on a bible is not required by any of those persons - nor is the phrase "so help me God" at the end of the oath.
George Carlin:
“Yeah — I’ll tell you as much truth as the people who wrote that fvcking Bible, how do you like that? Swearing on the Bible doesn’t mean anything, because Bible or no Bible, God or no God, if it suits their purposes, people are going to lie in court. The police do it all the time.”
Read more: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/unreasonablefait...
Don't you like it when the President says the words "So help me God" even though they don't have to? I think it's great.

Most of our military personnel end their oaths similarly.

It's awesome.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#776593 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Judges and attorneys are they to uphold the law, not interpret or translate it.
Hmm, but when you read the words written down on paper....
Don't you have to interpret thier meaning?
If there is a problem interpreting the words, the supreme court spells it out according to their interpretation.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#776594 Sep 4, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You, Buck Crick, have the gall to accuse others of cheap smears?
I'm going to have to resort to my protocol with the Redneck.
At his request, I sometimes point out posts of his that reflect his early Christian indoctrination.
I may well begin to point out posts of yours that contain cheap smears.
By the way, I prefer to be called Fetcher; Dickface is a bit offensive.
Really? Calling you "Dickface" is offensive?

I didn't know, or I never would have done that.

Hey, Buck got a job offer today - in Miami.

$15K per month, paid in cash.

I didn't ask who I have to kill,'cause it doesn't matter to me at that price.

But it's the kind of job you don't just walk out on when you get ready.

What is your legal advice?

“let's do this thang!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#776595 Sep 4, 2014
ya know how to get a good humanist red-faced and enraged with satanic and genocidal violence?

stand firm and declare 2 things:

1 - Jesus is LORD/GOD and there's no other way to the Father except through Him

2 - The Jews belong in their land of Israel

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#776596 Sep 4, 2014
I4Ldotcom wrote:
Prove there isnt a God.

Prove there is = 0 prove there isn't = 0
So wanna drink a beer or just shoot it out?
I'll buy the first round, but if Buck and Pee Bob and the other stooge show up....
Ka click .......hah hah haH ha HAH HAH ...Ewwwwwwwwwwwww!



Since: Apr 14

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#776597 Sep 4, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
We're going to fix that for you.
I hope that they don't merely delete it - the nonsectarian way - but change it to "We Trust No Gods," the atheist way. I think that we deserve a century of that.
Hahaha. Not gonna happen, but thanks for the humor. Look, it's an atheist comedian. You deserve? No, you don't.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#776598 Sep 4, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm, but when you read the words written down on paper....
Don't you have to interpret thier meaning?
If there is a problem interpreting the words, the supreme court spells it out according to their interpretation.
Sure but it isn't up to judges and attorneys to interpret law, it's their job to see that existing (and already interpreted) law is upheld by the court they happen to be working in.

But you know law doesn't need interpretation?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

It's pretty cut and dry.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#776599 Sep 4, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure but it isn't up to judges and attorneys to interpret law, it's their job to see that existing (and already interpreted) law is upheld by the court they happen to be working in.
But you know law doesn't need interpretation?
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
It's pretty cut and dry.
The laws are exactly how the Supreme Court interpret them.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#776600 Sep 4, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Calling you "Dickface" is offensive?
I didn't know, or I never would have done that.
Hey, Buck got a job offer today - in Miami.
$15K per month, paid in cash.
I didn't ask who I have to kill,'cause it doesn't matter to me at that price.
But it's the kind of job you don't just walk out on when you get ready.
What is your legal advice?
Pack a toothbrush.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#776601 Sep 4, 2014
New Age Spiritual Leader wrote:

Try to be a little more honest in your fun.....*shrugs*......it really isn't too difficult.
Or is it?
waaasssuuup wrote:
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i already told you that a new ager/agnostic-spiritualist's idea of 'truth and honesty' is very different than most!
Uhm.....we were discussing how you don't have honesty in your "fun" - religion doesn't have anything to do with that.

Hmmmmm.....
Rellowes

Tampa, FL

#776602 Sep 4, 2014
thewordofme wrote:
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You will eventually be dead and realize nothing....you're dead fool.
Your soul and thoughts will not live beyond the time your currant body is alive....you're dead fool.
You really need to understand this before it's to late....so you can live a better life now, today.
I find most Christians on this forum are too stupid and full of deceit and pride to take that step
Most Christians are too self-serving and self-centered to leap out of their weak-willed state to grasp reality beyond what they see.
You are very ignorant as you currently stand.
I am very aware of reality, it is the Christian that is deceived by the religious con-men of this world.
The very cornerstone of the Christian religion has been proven to be fake...you need to accept reality...I already have.
I've never read so many lies in one post like you just did in quite awhile. Every single thing you just said is a lie.....you'll find out after it is too late-----when you are burning alive in Hell.

I know it is embarrassing to you that not a single atheist took part in writing a 2000+ year journal refuting the Holy and accurate Scriptures of God's Word. >>> a sort of atheist anti-bible, if you will.

That's because the past atheists throughout ages (now in Hell) realized they were wrong and were proven wrong with actual encounters of proof directly from God, yet they remained as ignorant fools.
You carry that lineage of ignorance because you fail to grasp reality because you are a dumbass imbecilic sociopathic tyrant and bigot, full of seething hatred.

Your dead weight anchor of atheism has fallen to the marshy depths of stupidity with no chain attached at all, and watching you perish in your failed attempts to live a happy life without God is really hard to watch.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#776603 Sep 4, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Call me whatever you think is cuter, Redneck.
Sir is most appropriate though.
"RUTH BADER GINSBURG WILL PERFORM A SAME-SEX WEDDING THIS WEEKEND"

-Associated Press

The Supreme Court is expected to take up the issue of same-sex marriage soon.

Of course, Justice Buzzy Ginsberg will rule impartially.

Of course.

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