Prove there's a god.

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#773482 Aug 25, 2014
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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If you noticed, 8118, Hukt didn't called you a poe... nor does he assume that referring to you as "8118" bothers you.
That's all in your head.
If you noticed, I never said you called me a Poe... nor did I say that you thought it bothered me. I sai, if you think it does. "IF"

Since: Sep 11

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#773483 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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I've heard that tale, too. I call it a tale because it seems to be an Old Wive's Tale. I can't find anything to support it.
Between 1735 to 1964 there were over 11,000 executions just in England and Wales. Is it possible that pickpockets might've taken advantage of it? Sure. But most of the hangings were no for pickpocketing.
Strange fact - "Gala Day" stems from an Anglo-Saxon phrase, "gallows day", because of the carnival-like atmosphere they used to hold for public execution days.
Interesting.

Since: Apr 09

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#773484 Aug 25, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
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I am sharing information that I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Just because you fail or refuse to connect with God and see the truth/proof doesn't make it incorrect. Yes, there is a difference. I know/have gained proof that God exists and that he created life and you believe that he doesn't and that he didn't. The truth/proof is that God exists and that he created life and your belief is that he doesn't exist and that he didn't create life. I have been shown the truth/proof. You refuse to seek the truth/proof. No, I am on the knowledge and truth/proof side and you are on the belief side. Thank you. HAG&WD.
Your continual repetition of the same incorrect information in no way makes it correct.

But I suppose that is easier than defending your indefensible position.

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#773485 Aug 25, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
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That is something you have to do for yourself. I already did for myself.
Of course you did, kitten.

<pats head>

Toddle along now...

Since: Sep 11

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#773486 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Death? In California? Hahaha, convicts know that the death penalty in California will pretty much guarantee them a life sentence. So where's the deterrent?
"As of 2013, there are 741 offenders (including 20 women) on California's death row. Of those, 126 involved torture before murder, 173 killed children, and 44 murdered police officers."
741? Seriously? Violent criminals that were sentenced to death live a pretty long life these days....
The "deterrent" is the threat of sitting in a prison cell for the rest of your life until you are executed. There aren't many things much worse than that that we could feasibly implement and still pass the "cruel and unusual" check found in the bill of rights. What would you suggest as an effective deterrent?

Keep in mind, there are plenty of places around the world where, when the death penalty is still around, it is implemented faster and is doled out for lesser offenses, such as drug trafficking or even possession in some cases. If deterrents worked, why do we still have people committing crimes that can lead to their execution?

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#773487 Aug 25, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
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I never said he was only the God I worship. I said all are one and the same, with some being false idols. Misrepresenting what I said, doesn't make you correct.
I already told you that is something you have to prove on your own to yourself, like I did.
I did not say my God. There is only one Creator/God for all. All are not false, just one in the same, with some being false idols.
Look there, no waiting.:)
oh goodie - this will be fun!

So of all the gods ever worshipped by man, which ones are the false idols and which are all just different versions/names of the one god that is real?

Go.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#773488 Aug 25, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
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Nope, God/The Creator created all life, which made it possible for our Mothers to give birth to us.
I am sharing information that I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, Just because you fail or refuse to connect with God and see the truth doesn't make it incorrect. Yes, you are right, there is a difference. I know God exists and that he created life and you believe that he doesn't and that he didn't.:) Yes, again you are right. The truth is that God exists and that he created life and your belief is that he doesn't exist and that he didn't create life. I have been shown the truth/proof. You refuse to seek the truth/proof. No, I am on the knowledge and truth/proof side and you are on the belief side. What I say is honest. Thank you. HAG&WD.
"I am sharing information that I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt"

"The truth is that God exists"

" I have been shown the truth/proof."

"I am on the knowledge and truth/proof side"

- Where's your proof? You sure like to tout up a good time, but.....but......but......you show nothing. That isn't being honest at all.

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"You refuse to seek the truth/proof."
- This is a false conclusion. You don't know me or my life, so you do not know what I've "sought", learned, or whatever you think I haven't done. I've spent more time reading and then understanding what I've read on the history of religion than you would ever imagine.

Please don't project - it isn't very honest.

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773489 Aug 25, 2014
Thanks to Anon and the others for your help with my iPad problem. I did as suggested and now I'm off the mobile Topix format!!

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773490 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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I miss Pic-N-Save :(
Now we just got BigLots!...
Grrr I say.
I shop at BigLots all the time. Can't beat the prices.

What about the Price Club?

In Florida, WinnDixie is a major supermarket chain.

Since: Sep 11

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#773491 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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I agree, but a lot of the career criminals sure don't.
I'm not suggesting we go back to medieval dungeons or anything, but for cryin' out loud at least the prisons can do better at preventing things like porn, sex, drugs and weapons.
The truth is, the inmates run the prisons more than the guards, which is really sad.
Exactly my point - career criminals aren't deterred by the worst punishments that we can reasonably apply. Career criminals aren't rational actors - they are often operating under the assumption that they won't get caught, assuming they even consider the potential consequences of their actions in the first place. The solution isn't to apply ever harsher punishments, it's to attempt to create a society where crime doesn't appeal to large segments of the population and to rehabilitate those that break the rules. We also shouldn't focus on making prison as harsh an experience as possible, as that only creates bitter, angry convicts who return to society more skilled at crime and with little to no incentive to change their ways (not to mention the fact that we make it nearly impossible for a felon to find success in "lawful" society, often forcing them into a situation where the only gainful employment available is illegal).

I do agree that criminals often have undue influence over the prisons though. After all, prison is basically crime school.

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#773492 Aug 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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They got me out of prison the first time so I could be drafted into the NFL.
I made the starting offensive line for the Cincinnati Bengals.
I got kicked off the team on opening day.
Unspecified disciplinary issues.
Too bad. I do hope whatever it was was a good time, at least.

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773493 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Yessir I know.
What about private prisons? You think those would work?
Nope. In my view, that's very bad social policy.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#773494 Aug 25, 2014
scaritual wrote:
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Always my pleasure.
I like just about everything. No matter what the musical genre, I can find something I like.
Oh yeah? Let's see if you can get through this.
He starts singing (some might call it that) about a minute into it.

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773495 Aug 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Really?
Tell me more about prison.
I do know quite a bit about prisons--just not from your end of things. I go voluntarily and never stay overnight....

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773496 Aug 25, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>hahahahahaha
And hohohohoho back atcha. All fixed, with a little help from my friends.

Since: Jan 11

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#773497 Aug 25, 2014
scaritual wrote:
Just yours, not theirs.
I get it.
So when you said...
Joyful8118 wrote: They are all the same Creator.
You didn't mean *all* of them.
You just meant the Yahweh!/Jesus!/holy spirit! trio.
I think she's trying to steal all deity beliefs and claim them for her own.

That's not terribly uncommon. I've seen apologists use a similar tactic.

"You agree with me, you just don't know it."

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#773498 Aug 25, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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oh goodie - this will be fun!
So of all the gods ever worshipped by man, which ones are the false idols and which are all just different versions/names of the one god that is real?
Go.
I can't do all the work for you. Go find that out for yourself.
Anon

Lakewood, OH

#773499 Aug 25, 2014
Anon wrote:
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Oh yeah? Let's see if you can get through this.
He starts singing (some might call it that) about a minute into it.
Forgot the damn link.

https://m.youtube.com/watch...

Since: Sep 11

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#773500 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Agreed. Well said.
First we would need a nationwide team of people assigned to each prison that can differentiate the "regular Joe's" in prison, compared to the career criminals that will try and fool the system.
But we can't stop at just the prisons, we would have to evaluate the convicted criminals in county jails. A lot of times the career criminal starts with something minor, like car theft or drug trafficking, and they step it up to something bigger like check fraud, drug manufacturing, etc. Indigo even bigger to things like rape, murder, home invasion, thank robbery, etc.
So how do we go about doing that?
I'm not so sure that's something that's possible to do; additionally, I don't think it's necessary or fair to try and divine the future criminal activities of every inmate. I think that rehabilitation with the goal of becoming a productive member of society should be an option for every inmate until they prove themselves definitively beyond help, and even then, I don't think that we should simply lock said criminals up and forget about them. Lose their chance to return to society, sure, but no matter how vile their crimes, they are still human and deserve some base level of care, if only to make the lives of their fellow inmates and the correctional officers easier.

I think that education, therapy, and employment opportunities along with other rehabilitation services would go a long way to lowering our nationwide recidivism rate. How exactly this would be implemented is obviously a difficult question that would involve many programs both inside and outside of prison (in other words, people smarter than I can come up with the specifics).

Since: Jan 11

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#773501 Aug 25, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
I'd call it gnostic atheism, which can't exist.
I wouldn't, and disagree.
Take your query to IANS, he's the one that says "your god doesn't exist"....
I didn't have a query.

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