Prove there's a god.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#773151 Aug 24, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's possible that it could last forever, but it would be very dark for awhile. Picture a universe comprised only of black holes, of every size conceivable, each pulling against the others. Would they blow, or end up as one huge hole with a paradoxical singularity, a new universe from completely scrambled information? Hawkings once said that there can be no singularity in quantum mechanics. I don't believe in singularities.
How convenient that we can all believe what we want.
Yep--I guess.

But what's up with your new avatar?

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#773152 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"They came with a Bible and their religion, stole our land, crushed our spirit, and now tell us we should be thankful to the Lord for being saved." - Chief Pontiac
"How can we have confidence in the white people? When Jesus Christ came upon the earth, you killed him, the son of your own God, you nailed him up! You thought he was dead, but you were mistaken. And only after you thought you killed him did you worship him, and start killing those who would not worship him. What kind of a people is this for us to trust?" – Tecumseh
"White man came across the sea,
Brought us pain and misery
He killed our tribes, he killed our creed
He took our game for his own need

We fough him hard, we fought him well
Out on the plains, we gave him hell!
But many had came, to much for Cree,
Oh will we ever be set free?"

- "Run to the Hills", Iron Maiden

http://m.youtube.com/watch...

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#773153 Aug 24, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
<quoted text>
See, this is what I mean about not making sense. One Creator. They are all the same Creator. What the heck is a man-god? There is a Creator/God, one and the same for us all.
So you're not a Christian?
UidiotRaceMakeWo rldPeace

United States

#773154 Aug 24, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep--I guess.
But what's up with your new avatar?
i was also thinking that what up NanoAbnormal Freaky aVatar?

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#773155 Aug 24, 2014
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi Nano. How are you?
Uh oh. Eternity. I am scared to even say that word close to Buck. He is going to blow his top
Hey! I'm good, in spite of it's being hot enough to fry snakes on the sidewalk. And this after the weatherman said it's been an unusually cool summer for this area. Too bad I didn't do video of the hummingbird food boiling up out of the feeder. I would never have believed it if I hadn't seen it.

Maybe it was a flaw in the design?:-/

Yeah, that's what I'm going with, no scorched Earth omens here, huh uh, no way!

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#773156 Aug 24, 2014
"Autism causes atheism."

"For one, people who suffer from autism have a hard time using displaying emotion."

- Suzie D'lusional

*scans Atheist posts, looks around, looks inward*

Hahahahahahahaha!!

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#773157 Aug 24, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
<quoted text>
My screen name is Joyful. The 8118 was only added because, when I made the name, Topix said Joyful was already taken. It is something meaningful to me - my 2 children's birthdays - the 8th and the 11th. So, if you all think calling me 8118 bothers me, like you're calling me a bot, it doesn't. It just reminds me of my wonderful 2 children and that only makes me happy
Well, once again all I can tell you is that everything I say and am, on here and in life, is sincere and genuine. Doesn't matter what others think about me or want to make up about me. What they think or make up doesn't change who I am.
I am neither, because I'm not one, but you all go ahead and believe what you want. It doesn't affect me
Check this out, 8118...

8 + 1 + 1 + 8 = 18

"18" is a "1" followed by an "8"... and 1 + 8 = 9.

Intriguing!

81 x 18 = 1,458

1 + 4 + 5 + 8 = 18... 1 + 8 still = 9

8,118 / 2 = 4,059.

4 + 0 + 5 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

And...

8,118 / 11 = 738... 7 + 3 + 8 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

And...

8,118 / 22 = 369... 3 + 6 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

Wow! Nine keeps popping up.

Maybe I'll just start calling you "Number 9".

But wait, there's more!

All the following numbers can be divided evenly into 8,118...

1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11, 18, 22, 33, 41, 66, 82, 99, 123, 198, 246, 369, 451, 738, 902, 1353, 2706, 4059, and of course, 8118.

If we sum all those divisors together, we get 19,656

1 + 9 + 6 + 5 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 = 9

Too Freaky! Let's investigate further.

81 + 18 = 99... and 9 x 9 = 81... and 9 + 9 = 18

That's so kewel!

3 can be divided into 9... 3 times.

9 - 3 = 6... and if 9 is turned upside down, it's a 6 anyway.

6 + 6 + 6 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

6 x 6 x 6 = 216... 2 + 1 + 6 = 9 as well.

Now we're getting somewhere! 666 is "one of those numbers"... if ya know what I mean.

81 x 666 = 53,946

5 + 3 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 still = 9

18 x 666 = 11,988

1 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 27 too... and 2 + 7 still = 9

8,118 x 666 = 5,406,588

5 + 4 + 0 + 6 + 5 + 8 + 8 = 36... and 3 + 6 also = 9

Here's where is gets really unreal...

"P" is the 16th letter of the alphabet.
"O" is the 15th.
"E" is the 5th.

16 + 15 + 5 = 36... and 3 + 6 still = NINE!

What does all that mean?

NOTHIN'!

But you'll still manage to be insulted by it.

HAG&WD
UidiotRaceMakeWo rldPeace

United States

#773158 Aug 24, 2014
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
"White man came across the sea,
Brought us pain and misery
He killed our tribes, he killed our creed
He took our game for his own need
We fough him hard, we fought him well
Out on the plains, we gave him hell!
But many had came, to much for Cree,
Oh will we ever be set free?"
- "Run to the Hills", Iron Maiden
http://m.youtube.com/watch...
Muhammad Ali http://www.isreview.org/issues/33/muhammadali...
'
Why should they ask me to put on a uniform and go 10,000 miles from home and drop bombs and bullets on Brown people in Vietnam while so-called Negro people in Louisville are treated like dogs and denied simple human rights? No I'm not going 10,000 miles from home to help murder and burn another poor nation simply to continue the domination of white slave masters of the darker people the world over. This is the day when such evils must come to an end. I have been warned that to take such a stand would cost me millions of dollars. But I have said it once and I will say it again. The real enemy of my people is here. I will not disgrace my religion, my people or myself by becoming a tool to enslave those who are fighting for their own justice, freedom and equality.… If I thought the war was going to bring freedom and equality to 22 million of my people they wouldn't have to draft me, I'd join tomorrow. I have nothing to lose by standing up for my beliefs. So I'll go to jail, so what? We've been in jail for 400 years.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#773159 Aug 24, 2014
In response too...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

Check this out, 8118...

8 + 1 + 1 + 8 = 18

"18" is a "1" followed by an "8"... and 1 + 8 = 9.

Intriguing!

81 x 18 = 1,458

1 + 4 + 5 + 8 = 18... 1 + 8 still = 9

8,118 / 2 = 4,059.

4 + 0 + 5 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

And...

8,118 / 11 = 738... 7 + 3 + 8 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

And...

8,118 / 22 = 369... 3 + 6 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

Wow! Nine keeps popping up.

Maybe I'll just start calling you "Number 9".

But wait, there's more!

All the following numbers can be divided evenly into 8,118...

1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11, 18, 22, 33, 41, 66, 82, 99, 123, 198, 246, 369, 451, 738, 902, 1353, 2706, 4059, and of course, 8118.

If we sum all those divisors together, we get 19,656

1 + 9 + 6 + 5 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 = 9

Too Freaky! Let's investigate further.

81 + 18 = 99... and 9 x 9 = 81... and 9 + 9 = 18

That's so kewel!

3 can be divided into 9... 3 times.

9 - 3 = 6... and if 9 is turned upside down, it's a 6 anyway.

6 + 6 + 6 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9

6 x 6 x 6 = 216... 2 + 1 + 6 = 9 as well.

Now we're getting somewhere! 666 is "one of those numbers"... if ya know what I mean.

81 x 666 = 53,946

5 + 3 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 still = 9

18 x 666 = 11,988

1 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 27 too... and 2 + 7 still = 9

8,118 x 666 = 5,406,588

5 + 4 + 0 + 6 + 5 + 8 + 8 = 36... and 3 + 6 also = 9

Here's where is gets really unreal...

"P" is the 16th letter of the alphabet.
"O" is the 15th.
"E" is the 5th.

16 + 15 + 5 = 36... and 3 + 6 still = NINE!

What does all that mean?

NOTHIN'!

But you'll still manage to be insulted by it.

HAG&WD

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#773160 Aug 24, 2014
scaritual wrote:
<quoted text>
OOOH...Buck called me a name..
Buck Crick is:

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#773161 Aug 25, 2014
Hukt's tried to post at least a dozen times today, and that's the first one to get through.

I can't post direct replies for some reason.

Buck... whatever you're doing... stop it.

G'night.

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#773162 Aug 25, 2014
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>
I can turn it around and say the very same thing. Believers have one thing in common; they believe in God. We do not all follow the same doctrine, we do not all have the very same belief set. We have on commonality and that is God.
You can put 1000 Christians and other believers and they will all have different viewpoints; it goes along with different personalities. Christians have many sects as well with a different perspective than Jewish people or Muslims. But we all believe in the God of Abraham.
Of course atheist would never pray; that would be silly and naturally you think praying is odd. But it strikes me as odd that you wouldn't expect to see prayer by believers? That is what we do.
I have been to lots of sporting events. In fact, I played softball in high school and I was a cheerleader. Both my daughters played softball and cheered, my son played football, basketball and baseball. All three played since they were 6 and throughout school. We all go to college football and basketball games and at least once a year we go and watch either the Colts or the Bengals play and we watch the Reds. I have never seen a team pray to win; ever. I have seen them pray that no one gets hurt or that everyone has a safe journey home, but never to win. I have never seen a team pray after a game either; prayer is always at the beginning. I am not sure where you watch games, but it does not happen at the sporting events I have attended.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_z_KxrpkBTL0/TQWaxwk...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773163 Aug 25, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
On this date in 1572, the St. Bartholomew's Day massacre of French Protestants at the hands of Catholics began in Paris. Viva Christianity!
O praise Him! He is a god of love indeed.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#773164 Aug 25, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
Joyful8118 wrote:
<quoted text>
I never said I was undecided, thank you. You really should quote people correctly, instead of lying. Go ahead, I dare you to link to me saying that. You can't, cause it isn't there. I said I was having doubts/struggling about/with things. I also stated that I was raised as a Christian. I was and am honest when I say/said I want to/wanted to hear from both sides. As of yet, none of you have convinced me, but your adversaries have convinced me, even more than I was before I started having doubts. A few (very few) of the unbelievers have brought some things to me that have helped me grow and learn. A couple is two. I started here on April 12th. That would be about four and a half months. Btw, I am still listening with an open mind, if you all would only say something that makes even the slightest bit of sense.
<quoted text>
It has been proven to me. Each person has to find that proof on their own. There is plenty of proof all around us, but you have to open yourself up to find it, instead of closing yourself off and refusing to find it. My experiences have given me all the proof that I need.
You say: "Very well - there is not now, nor has there ever been any proof that any god ever existed."
Just because you haven't found the proof doesn't mean there isn't any. So, your statement should be: "Very well - I have not found any proof that any god ever existed."
That one is dealt with.:) Let's continue.
"If the god you worship is as real as you say, why aren't all the other gods real?"
There is one Creator/God. He is everyone's Creator. So, everyone's Creator/God is real. It is the same one for us all.:)
Or this:
"What is the difference between your god, Zeus, and Aphrodite."
I don't know anything about Zeus or Aphrodite. However, everyone's Creator/God is the one and only Creator/God. So, there is no difference between my Creator or anyone else's since mine and theirs is the one and only, the same.
Proof is verifiable and quantifiable - if there were proof, everyone would be able see it or verify it in some way. The fact you *believe* you have proof is not proof - its just belief.

You also *believe* there is only one god - again, no proof.

Thank you, at least, for showing everyone that your beliefs are just that - beliefs - and nothing more.

There is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof of any god's existence.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773165 Aug 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
What difference does it make if the reward is from somebody else?
Have you never had the experience of doing good for its own sake - without somebody giving you a reward? If you have, you know what the difference is. If you haven't, I wouldn't know how to explain it to you.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773166 Aug 25, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
I was simply pointing out that I was not claiming that "no god belief" is a god belief within the context of how I understand the term "atheism". I was the one using the term. I wasn't trying to force anything on you. You can accuse me of being wrong on the use of the term, but not of making a flatly contradictory statement of "no god belief being a god belief".
OK. Perhaps I misunderstood you.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#773167 Aug 25, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
The scope of future time is infinitly finite.
The scope of future time is 0.

Since: Apr 14

Location hidden

#773168 Aug 25, 2014
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
In response too...
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
Check this out, 8118...
8 + 1 + 1 + 8 = 18
"18" is a "1" followed by an "8"... and 1 + 8 = 9.
Intriguing!
81 x 18 = 1,458
1 + 4 + 5 + 8 = 18... 1 + 8 still = 9
8,118 / 2 = 4,059.
4 + 0 + 5 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9
And...
8,118 / 11 = 738... 7 + 3 + 8 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9
And...
8,118 / 22 = 369... 3 + 6 + 9 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9
Wow! Nine keeps popping up.
Maybe I'll just start calling you "Number 9".
But wait, there's more!
All the following numbers can be divided evenly into 8,118...
1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11, 18, 22, 33, 41, 66, 82, 99, 123, 198, 246, 369, 451, 738, 902, 1353, 2706, 4059, and of course, 8118.
If we sum all those divisors together, we get 19,656
1 + 9 + 6 + 5 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 = 9
Too Freaky! Let's investigate further.
81 + 18 = 99... and 9 x 9 = 81... and 9 + 9 = 18
That's so kewel!
3 can be divided into 9... 3 times.
9 - 3 = 6... and if 9 is turned upside down, it's a 6 anyway.
6 + 6 + 6 = 18... and 1 + 8 still = 9
6 x 6 x 6 = 216... 2 + 1 + 6 = 9 as well.
Now we're getting somewhere! 666 is "one of those numbers"... if ya know what I mean.
81 x 666 = 53,946
5 + 3 + 9 + 4 + 6 = 27... and 2 + 7 still = 9
18 x 666 = 11,988
1 + 1 + 9 + 8 + 8 = 27 too... and 2 + 7 still = 9
8,118 x 666 = 5,406,588
5 + 4 + 0 + 6 + 5 + 8 + 8 = 36... and 3 + 6 also = 9
Here's where is gets really unreal...
"P" is the 16th letter of the alphabet.
"O" is the 15th.
"E" is the 5th.
16 + 15 + 5 = 36... and 3 + 6 still = NINE!
What does all that mean?
NOTHIN'!
But you'll still manage to be insulted by it.
HAG&WD
Insulted never came to mind here. Concern for your mental health, on the other hand, did.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773169 Aug 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
You can use whatever language you prefer to describe the following, my position on the matter: If a god exists, I don't expect to ever know that that is true. I might be wrong, which is what makes it less than (certain) knowledge, and I know that, which is why I am properly called agnostic. I feel the same way about gods as I do about vampires and leprechauns. I don't expect to ever encounter any of them. I call my position on each of these atheism, avampirism, and aleprechaunism.
Buck Crick wrote:
I don't think it fits into agnosticism of any sort. You have accepted a conclusion.
Conclusion as in a certain and immutable idea, or as in a tentative idea amenable to revision pending new evidence? I'm not sure that the latter should be called a conclusion as much as a working hypothesis.

Your idea of agnosticism seem to be a state of having no opinions about what is likely to be true concerning gods. That's not how I use the word. To me, agnosticism is no more or less than the state of being less than certain about the possibility of gods. I'm pretty sure that my position qualifies.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#773170 Aug 25, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you never had the experience of doing good for its own sake - without somebody giving you a reward? If you have, you know what the difference is. If you haven't, I wouldn't know how to explain it to you.
Your reasoning would apply likewise to any sense of reward, whether from somebody else or not.

If an atheist's act is rewarding to him, it would not be a moral good.

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