Prove there's a god.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773090 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
You have lost, the Christians have (already) won.
Dead religion walking.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#773091 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
Yes, it's clear. You want to kill me.
You're already dead.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773092 Aug 24, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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Do you know Marty Handlon?
Your short reply means you're only using one hand to type. I suspect your other hand is being used on something else that is short.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773094 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You're already dead.
Oh really?

Since: Apr 14

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#773095 Aug 24, 2014
Lol. FYI, everyone. Nasty cold is not acceptable to Topix. :)

Since: Apr 14

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#773096 Aug 24, 2014
Okay now it is. Topix, make up your mind.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773097 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Dead religion walking.
I'm praying that you switch back to another sock puppet (christinsanityISEVIL) here in just a few seconds.

Since: Apr 09

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#773098 Aug 24, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
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I never said I was undecided, thank you. You really should quote people correctly, instead of lying. Go ahead, I dare you to link to me saying that. You can't, cause it isn't there. I said I was having doubts/struggling about/with things. I also stated that I was raised as a Christian. I was and am honest when I say/said I want to/wanted to hear from both sides. As of yet, none of you have convinced me, but your adversaries have convinced me, even more than I was before I started having doubts. A few (very few) of the unbelievers have brought some things to me that have helped me grow and learn. A couple is two. I started here on April 12th. That would be about four and a half months. Btw, I am still listening with an open mind, if you all would only say something that makes even the slightest bit of sense.
Very well - there is not now, nor has there ever been any proof that any god ever existed.

If you don't want to deal with that one, how about this:

If the god you worship is as real as you say, why aren't all the other gods real?

Or this:

What is the difference between your god, Zeus, and Aphrodite.

atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773099 Aug 24, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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Very well - there is not now, nor has there ever been any proof that any god ever existed.
Just Think if you weren't blind how different your posts would be.
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773100 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
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I'm praying that you switch back to another sock puppet (christinsanityISEVIL) here in just a few seconds.
*This should keep him from posting for several hours.*
atheism is destructive

Alabaster, AL

#773101 Aug 24, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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What is the difference between God, Zeus, and Aphrodite.
God's power is real , the others are not since they are not real, as evidenced by your inability to divert from talking about God. You just simply don't see how ridiculous you look shadow-boxing.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#773102 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Do you have a donut handy? If not, just run your finger along the circumference of your steering wheel. How many times is it possible to go around that circle before you run out of path. My guess is that you will run out of finger first.
Are those imaginary? Maybe you meant abstract or immaterial.
I checked the donut and the steering wheel.

There is no path on it.

If I try I can imagine one. In fact, I don't even need the donut for that.

Infinity is easy in the imaginary realm.

What you alleged is an infinity in reality. I've never found an example.

There is no example, and it is for good reason - infinity and physical existence are contradictory.

To consider the one is to discard the other.

No coherent representation of physical reality can contain something infinite. Like the problem your imaginary infinite path illustrates, such a representation of reality requires that "less than", "equal to", and "greater than" are non-contradictory terms.

Infinity is ruled out for physical existence.

Since: May 09

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#773103 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I don't think the vectors of that meme - the people posting here, for example - have any known purpose. Just ask them, and they won't have a credible answer. They're just uncritically repeating what they've heard and read as they do with the definition of atheism meme. Likewise with the definition of an atheist meme.
The authors of both memes surely had a purpose in mind. For the "atheism is religion" one, it is most likely to gain parity with secular alternatives to religion in schools and government. If it can be argued that atheism, secularism or evolutionary science are religions, then it can be argued that is discrimination to exclude creationism from textbooks, for example.
Regarding the other meme, they also have no good answer for why so many of them repeat it. Once again, just ask them. Ask them why they insisting that the word "atheist" be used only in reference to people making a positive assertion that gods cannot or do not exist, and that the rest of us call ourselves agnostics, and you don't get a credible answer. They don't know.
I think that the purpose of its authors was twofold:
First, it's to keep the numbers for atheism low. Christians like to claim that America is only 2-4% atheist when it's closer to 20% that say that they have no god beliefs.
Second, they'd rather the other 16-18% of is be known as agnostics to give the impression that we feel uncertainty, as if we're wavering in doubt - exactly how Susie D just defined the word:
"You claim to be agnostic, this makes you a sort of believer; you are not sure what you believe, yet something is there. "
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
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Exactly. They don't know. They don't have a reason.
Sound reasonable?
Quite so. We've discussed that before. I like a good segue.

Speaking of reason and the subject of deities...

If a story in a book about a deity, or the belief a person has is proof enough of a deity being real, then all deities are real. If a story in a book about a deity, or the belief a person has in a deity isn't proof enough of a deity being real. Then none of the deities are real.

There is no verifiable evidence for deities. Believers often ask why science or the scientific method isn't utilized when it comes to deities.

Science doesn't just start looking under the couch and asking "Where in Sam Hill is the deity?" Science has to have something to detect, observe or measure, so science does not concern itself with the endeavor.

That job is for the people who believe in the invisible disembodied magical superbrain(S).

However, there is no reason why a deity or deities presence couldn't be measured or detected in some way. Believers insist that scientifically detecting their deity is impossible - although they claim to "feel" and experience it regularly.

Why is that?

This is because their deity is nowhere to be found, it isn't detected, and so intricate illogical stories and hoop jumping rationale has to be used to explain why this allegedly vast, all encompassing, loving, eternal, all-powerful "something" which in every objective, logical respect, is indistinguishable from nothing.

There is a reason for that.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#773104 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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The circumference of a circular path is finite, but there is no upper limit to the length of a journey around and around it. If the sphere were the earth, one such path would be traveling along the equator in either direction. You will never reach the end of the equator even if you travel until the sun expands to consume the earth.
Sorry, Buck, but you can't make this go away with words. My circular path is no more imaginary than your distance to the edge of the universe or the distance between any two separated objects.
Even with no upper limit, the path is finite at every progression, and always will be.

That's a finite path.

And the path is imaginary. There is no equator around the earth. It's assigned location has been crossed countless times, and nobody has seen it.

Two separated objects in the universe are real, with physical quantity to measure or calculate, as in distance.

To summarize, your path is not infinite, and it is not physical.

We could make symbols for it and call it infinite. But that wouldn't be honest.

Since: Oct 10

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#773105 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
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I'm praying that you switch back to another sock puppet (christinsanityISEVIL) here in just a few seconds.
I prayed to Pimoa cthulhu that Yahweh was real. Unfortunately, may prayer wasn't answered. It may be because spiders don't understand human thoughts or speech or it may be that spiders are indifferent to imaginary gods.

Pimoa cthulus work in mysterious ways.

Since: May 09

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#773106 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
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It's good to see you are still suffering as an atheist.
If you consider what I do or who I am to be suffering, then more people should be doing it.

However, maybe praying is best for you.

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#773107 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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More to the point, why do YOU do THIS? Did you really not understand what I was saying?
OK, if it's more words you want, you shall have them. It really isn't moral behavior if you're doing it for a reward from somebody else.
What difference does it make if the reward is from somebody else?

It's still a reward. If an atheist does some good he finds rewarding, it is not really moral behavior, using your reasoning.

Since: Apr 09

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#773108 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
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Just Think if you weren't blind how different your posts would be.
You dodged the question. You lose.

Next?

Since: Apr 09

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#773109 Aug 24, 2014
atheism is destructive wrote:
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God's power is real , the others are not since they are not real, as evidenced by your inability to divert from talking about God. You just simply don't see how ridiculous you look shadow-boxing.
Opinion and belief - zero quantifiable proof.

You lose.

Next?

Buck Crick

Since: May 10

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#773110 Aug 24, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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No, that is not what atheism is.
How many times do you want to go around and around this semantic circle? I am not going to change my usage of the word "atheist" to accommodate you. Your choices are to eventually learn what I mean when I use the word, or to post your preferred meaning every time I use the word. I assure you that you will accomplish nothing constructive if you choose the latter.
I was simply pointing out that I was not claiming that "no god belief" is a god belief within the context of how I understand the term "atheism".

I was the one using the term. I wasn't trying to force anything on you.

You can accuse me of being wrong on the use of the term, but not of making a flatly contradictory statement of "no god belief being a god belief".



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