Prove there's a god.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#772407 Aug 22, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I just happened to be in the courtroom.
My clients never get sentenced to more than 99 years.
I'm good at what I do.

I only got 99 years for a parking ticket, with catcher on the case ....lol j/k

“LOL Really?”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#772408 Aug 22, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, I just happened to be in the courtroom.
My clients never get sentenced to more than 99 years.
I'm good at what I do.
I always give my opponents the option of bowing out before engagement.

I'm good at what I do.

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#772409 Aug 22, 2014
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>You do know that this was well over a 1000 years ago, yet in atheist China, killing baby girls happens as we type.
So, does this make the christian killings any less culpable then the Chinese?

So how is God's current belief that one shouldn't kill babies fit in with the old time God that allowed bashing babies into walls/stones/?

Or does He still allow baby bashing?

We have known for a long time that the Chinese Communists are crazy uncivilized a$$holes.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772410 Aug 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
To reiterate, no actual infinite exists in physical reality.
To reiterate, anything that is unbounded or has no end is infinite.
Buck Crick wrote:
"A universe expanding and never hitting a physical or temporal limit is an infinite process."
It is not an infinite process. At every point in future expansion, the expansion is finite. Finite expansion is never exhausted. Rather than an infinite process, it is a process of producing larger and larger finite values.
If the process is unlimited, it will either never end, or will end for some reason other than hitting a physical boundary or terminus. The expansion of the universe may be such an infinite process. It's infinitude is not dependent on its present age or size, just the fact that both can increase without limit.
Buck Crick wrote:
"infinite process" is a misnomer for continual addition.
I don't think so. "Infinite process" refers to the fact that a process is unbounded. If the process is adding, then the adding doesn't have an upper limit.
Buck Crick wrote:
Some distinguish such a process from infinite by terming it "potential infinite", as opposed to "actual infinite". Even this is still inaccurate, as a process that cannot achieve an actual infinite is not really potentially infinite, since the possibility of actual infinite does not exist.


The circular path is not potientally infinite. It is actually infinite. You cannot identify a boundary to travel around it in either direction just as you can't identify an upper boundary to the natural numbers.

Do you believe that your god is infinite in any sense of the word?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772411 Aug 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
Wrong. Atheism is not a lack of belief. It is a belief. The belief is that no god exists.
Making that argument is an infinite process.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772412 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
"Your god does not exist" is not a lack of belief, it's a belief based on faith.
Holding that idea is not what makes me an atheist. My atheism is is independent of that idea.

Furthermore, I arrived at that conclusion by means of a soundly reasoned argument, not faith.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772413 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
"the one Stligar says teaches love and fellowship"
Please find my post where I said she teaches love and fellowship.
Somebody said that Christianity teaches love and fellowship. I believe that was you. Is there an issue?

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772414 Aug 22, 2014
Double Fine wrote:
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Yes. We say "infinite" amoint of energy,.because one will never ever obtain that amount of energy in order to accelerate to c.
If we assume the "vessel" is self-contained and doesn't rely upon an external energy source, then its mass would start out infinite.

Uh oh!
I think a good way to think about infinity, is "it will never be attained/realised"
Wih regards to the mass: the Lorentz factor gamma is the equation we use. At 90% of the speed of light, we would weigh about two and a half times as much as we do now. It would approach infinity the closer we get to C. Which is impossible, of course. That "infinity" would also never be realised.
Yes sir... that's the gist of it. Mass is a scalar quantity. "Weight"... or resistance... arises when a vector force acts upon mass. It would be a never-ending push to an unachievable upper speed limit.
You would always be a massive object with a finite mass, traveling at a finite speed in a measurable unit of time.
Yep... from a traveler's perspective, nothing would seem to change about himself. To him, meters and seconds in his reference frame would still seem like meters and seconds. Somewhere along the way, the rest of the universe would become rather interesting... and eventually very boring. Does the universe "flatten" toward a plane perpendicular his line of travel, or does it contract toward brilliant point directly ahead? Well, in a way, both... which is another mind-boggling paradox arising from SR... but that it also prevents us having to contend with.

It would be fun to actually perceive Terrell rotation, angular aberration, spectral Doppler shift, and all the other things arising from that sort of velocity... but, alas... for now we're pretty much stuck near the other end of the speed scale... thanks to our non-zero mass.
Apologies for the poor spelling. On Android and my cold little fingers are having a hard time pressing these teensy tiny buttons. I used to think that on Android, Topix had the worst typing interface in the world. They somehow replaced it with an even worse one. Go figure.
Yeah!

Not too long ago, Hukt got himself a Nexus 7. It's quite the useful little gadget for many things. Reading Topix is one of them... posting to Topix definitely ain't.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772415 Aug 22, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
At present the very best we have done is a little less than 5 % the speed of light, but we now have the technology to produce craft capable of 10%. Just think, at this speed we could make it to the nearest star (besides the sun) in about 45 years., out of the milky way in 400,000 years and across the universe in 450 billion years. What are we waiting for, we should be exploring and measuring the universe....Um, Wait gosh the Earth will be gone then, N/M im not into long waits anyway...
heheheh
Patience, Aura, patience... Pierson's Puppeteers will make their existence known to us sometime during this millennium.

After that, it's all intrigue and subterfuge.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772416 Aug 22, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
"Jeff Dee is an American artist and game designer. Based in Austin, Texas, he is a recognized figure in the role-playing game community and game industry"
I hadn't known that.
That's it.

Didn't realize it myself until Jeff made mention of it during one of the shows. Upon googling "Jeff Dee art"... all sorts of childhood memories resurfaced. Jeff supplied a substantial portion of the artwork for D&D/AD&D rulebooks and manuals. I didn't really play all that much; That didn't stop me from procuring all the manuals though. I was never into comics or action figures or anything like that, but those books were too freggin' cool for little Hukt to not invest in.
Are you familiar with the Atheist Eve comic strip? That's the work of Tracie Harris, also a graphic designer
http://www.atheist-community.org/atheisteve/
I'm aware of Atheist Eve... never really keep up with it.

Tracie's a former fundamentalist... and thus, knows a thing or two about that mindset and how to deal with it when a caller gets all righteous'n'fuddy-duddy like they sometimes do.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772417 Aug 22, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Is it too soon for a Robin Williams joke?
How bout a Jesus joke?
Still too soon?
Dammit
Hehehe.

=)

“I love Jesus”

Since: Dec 08

Heaven, but Earthbound for now

#772418 Aug 22, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
You are tolerated. Your religion is an ideology that is being challenged.
Did you want to take a stab at answering the question? Stilgar seems to have blown it off.
Would you like to be treated the way the church treats atheists and gays? Do you know how that is?
"The Church" is an institution and it is a political one; power and money runs the process, not Christ. Being Christian means your follow Christ as best that one can anyway, and nothing at all to do with "The Church" or religion for that matter. I challenge you to find one word in the Bible where Jesus discusses gay's and I mean the red letters; His actual words. I have yet to read anything regarding homosexuality coming from Christ.. Christ is not a church and the church is not who I follow. You may say one is the other, but I say, one has nothing to do with the other. In fact, Jesus warns us about "The Church" as a whole.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772419 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
That's a strange form of punishment. So if a man steals your car and gets caught, he owes you two cars?
Why not? Why should the effort be risk free. If you want to take fifty bucks from a casino and fail, you should end up with fifty bucks less than you started with, right? That's just. A gamble to make a profit shouldn't be risk free, and my part in it should not be to hope to break even. If a man wants to take my car and fails, he should end up with one less car than he started with.

"Paying a debt to society" is a misnomer. The thief has no debt to society. His debt is to his victim. Any jail time required of him is to teach him not to break the law again, to remove him from the streets until he learns that lesson, and to serve as a disincentive to others. It's not compensation.

This isn't a new idea. Some judgments award treble damages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treble_damages . Double is gentler.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772420 Aug 22, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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That photons have no mass is an assumtion based on E=MCC.

Much of which the theories of particle physics are based is tautology.

We assume E=MCC is valid and that infinite energy is required to accelerate to C therefore photons can have no mass.

The simple fact that billions of photons can be created and accelerated to C with a AAA battery in a small flashlight demonstrates the flaw in the theories.
Okay, Ben.

You seem rather dogmatic about it.

Photons don't "accelerate". They can and do impart a change in motion to things that can be "accelerated".

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#772421 Aug 22, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Good analysis. You are reinstated. But watch it.
You understand infinity. That's a rarity in this precinct.
Well thanks, Mr. Crick.

You watch it... or I'll file another complaint aboutchya with the Dean's office.

Here... have an apple.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772422 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
See this is what I mean about your ignorance of Christianity in the Bible. You're saying the Bible "has no relevance" except that churches promote it. That's pure ignorance. The question is, is it intentional ignorance, willful ignorance? Or maybe it's just you being stubborn...
Does this require an answer? If so, make your case. Your bare claim doesn't need refutation.

"What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence." – Christopher Hitchens

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772423 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Christianity does not teach that stuff. If you disagree, you'll quote Scripture to demonstrate that you are correct. About it? Will you supply Scripture to demonstrate that Christianity teaches:
homophobia atheophobia disrespect for science Go.
Go where? The church's doctrine is not limited by its bible. Where does the bible condemn gay marriage or stem cell research?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#772424 Aug 22, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
The monster you refer to doesn't exist. God does not put people in hell for eternity. Born-again Christians will live in Heaven for eternity, people that have rejected God will die. The same death you atheists think will happen to everybody, you just turn off like a broken radio. That's why your question is irrelevant.
That's your theology, not the church's.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#772425 Aug 22, 2014
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>"The Church" is an institution and it is a political one; power and money runs the process, not Christ. Being Christian means your follow Christ as best that one can anyway, and nothing at all to do with "The Church" or religion for that matter. I challenge you to find one word in the Bible where Jesus discusses gay's and I mean the red letters; His actual words. I have yet to read anything regarding homosexuality coming from Christ.. Christ is not a church and the church is not who I follow. You may say one is the other, but I say, one has nothing to do with the other. In fact, Jesus warns us about "The Church" as a whole.
I take it, then, that you support the right of homosexuals to marry.

“I love Jesus”

Since: Dec 08

Heaven, but Earthbound for now

#772426 Aug 22, 2014
dirty white boy- wrote:
<quoted text> What irks me is, how can they think an all Loving God would approve of such butchery..
Me thinks they are a little twisted..
You think God approves?(I know you do not believe and that is in jest) God gives us freewill and yeah it is great when people make right choices, but freewill is the key word. God allows choices and with that comes some horrible choices. They will answer for it... However, according to your belief, life has no real meaning or purpose anyway; we answer to no one; Earth is much like Vegas and what happens here stays here. If I felt life has no real purpose and I was meaningless life form who was not held accountable for my actions, I would act how ever I pleased. However, I feel God guide's me; we are all connected to each other and this earth; all life especially human life is wonderful and to be treasured. WE have free will and it is beautiful, but there is a downside. God allows this suffering for a purpose; that purpose is all about choices.

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