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#766137 Aug 8, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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You won't find me discussing God, Christianity or religion in any depth on this site.
I find the subjects unworthy of serious, deep discussion.
Nor have I learned much about those subjects here, although I HAVE learned much about the silliness of the likes of you, the Lightbeam guy, Joyful, and the rest of the godbot crowd.
And I'm having fun, too.
Then you are more serious and deep than Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, and Hume, in your view.

You should run for office on a democrat ticket.

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#766138 Aug 8, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Gliding is jumping and then falling gracefully.
Parachutists glide. What they jump from flies.
Thanks.

I thought gliding was gliding.

I didn't know a plane that glides when losing power has to jump.

Thanks again.

“Ditat Deus”

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#766139 Aug 8, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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Gliding is jumping and then falling gracefully.
Parachutists glide. What they jump from flies.
Sometimes try jump from a non-flying bridge.

Just sayin >:)

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#766140 Aug 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Thanks.
I thought gliding was gliding.
I didn't know a plane that glides when losing power has to jump.
Thanks again.
It doesn't.

It has to fall.

Hope that helps.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#766141 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
This is very simple, for intelligent folks anyway. Science has evidence to suggest that the universe hasn't always existed, it had a starting point, so:
I would agree that it is simple.
1. Everything which has a beginning has a cause.
You cannot know that.
2. The universe has a beginning.
That seems like a reasonable position.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
Invalid conclusion.
1. God had no beginning.
How boring.
2. He always existed.
You already said that with point #1.
3. Therefore God was not created.
Non sequitur.

You'll never get a good argument out of this, but you could form a valid argument by framing it within a conditional proof.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766142 Aug 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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It's neither working nor a model.
He just showed different levels of eye complexity and said, "Then you get this, then you get this..."
Little Dick Dawkins' demonstration is of no use in providing a Darwinian pathway for assembly of the vertebrate eye.
But if that's as good as you got, then go with it.
It WAS a model...

and it WORKED.

Providing a 'Darwinian pathway for assembly of the vertebrate eye' is not my responsibility... nor is the creationists insistence that the complexity of the eye requires and indicates the existence of a creator a thorn in my side.

Ya can take Dawkins and his model and shove 'em up.

Ya still got nothin'.

Prove there's a god.

“What's left to defend?”

Since: Jan 11

Freedom

#766143 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Yes I know. But at least you're getting some exposure to God on this site, likely more than you'd get if you never came here.
That's better than nothing.
Do you think more skeptics should come to this site to see what we see?

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766144 Aug 8, 2014
Forget the "up".

Just shove 'em.

“Ditat Deus”

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#766145 Aug 8, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
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You won't find me discussing God, Christianity or religion in any depth on this site.
I find the subjects unworthy of serious, deep discussion.
Nor have I learned much about those subjects here, although I HAVE learned much about the silliness of the likes of you, the Lightbeam guy, Joyful, and the rest of the godbot crowd.
And I'm having fun, too.
Yeah. Look at you not discussing God, Christianity or religion.

“Ditat Deus”

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#766146 Aug 8, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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Quiz:
Is lumping people together bigotry?
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I can't even say, "Nice try."
It wasn't a nice try. It makes me think you've taken up bean riding.
If you can't answer, you can't answer. There's no reason to be a dick about it.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#766147 Aug 8, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
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Then you are more serious and deep than Aristotle, Thomas Aquinas, and Hume, in your view.
You should run for office on a democrat ticket.
In their day, Aristotle, Aquinas and Hume definitely earned their merit badges.

But that was yesterday. Another place, another time.

All three left their mark, but now they are all dead.

I have been invited to run for office, but I respectfully declined.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766148 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Right.
Speculation.
Thanks for your help.
Ya got nothin'.

You're welcome.

Prove there's a god.

You can't. There isn't any proof.

You're welcome again.

“Ditat Deus”

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#766149 Aug 8, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
By definition, God cannot exist, any more than a married bachelor.
By definition, God is the creator of the universe and source of all moral authority.

You say that cannot exist? Explain.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766150 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Or you could say; and God said "Let there be light", and something Big Banged.
Prove there's a god.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#766151 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Yeah. Look at you not discussing God, Christianity or religion.
Read my post again, this time carefully.

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#766152 Aug 8, 2014
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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It WAS a model...
and it WORKED.
Providing a 'Darwinian pathway for assembly of the vertebrate eye' is not my responsibility... nor is the creationists insistence that the complexity of the eye requires and indicates the existence of a creator a thorn in my side.
Ya can take Dawkins and his model and shove 'em up.
Ya still got nothin'.
Prove there's a god.
If you don't recognize Dawkins' treatment as a fat nothing, you don't need to be discussing the subject.

But like I said, if that's all you got....

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766153 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Young Dawkins' little eyeball model/demonstration is not evidence. It's speculation.
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Nope.
He started with a presupposition that an eye already existed and "evolved" it from there.
It's his guess, nothin more. Why do you buy it?
Ys still got nothin'.

prove there's a god.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766154 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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The funny thing is that you asked for evidence and the little Dick demonstration is what you got...
You think atheists swoon over him because of his magically delicious accent?
'Bout that voice ya claim ya heard...

Did it have an accent?

You didn't really hear a voice, did you?

Prove there's a god.

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#766155 Aug 8, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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We don't care why Russell is not a Christian.
But we do care why he hates God.
What "God"?

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#766156 Aug 8, 2014
River Tam wrote:
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It doesn't.
It has to fall.
Hope that helps.
It doesn't. Because now gliding doesn't involve jumping. Earlier it did.

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