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Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#766520 Aug 8, 2014
curiouslu wrote:
Lol. Who cares, no such thing here and I doubt Mexico will care.
It's called freedom of speech, hm. Awkward.
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
See, IANS? I told you that making jokes on white people is perfectly PC. Now tell a black joke just as vile. Maybe something about drugs, fatherless children or crime. Go.
See what? Are you claiming that Juice just made a joked against whites?

What I have been seeing is Juice not discussing your god and you claiming that she was, me discussing Christianity and you calling it discussing Christians, you calling a restauranteur that was asked to obey the law persecuted, and you calling the above an example of Juice telling a joke about whites.

You can understand my skepticism when you also tell me that you see a god, or an irreducibly complex eye, or anti-Christian bigotry, or anything else to do with your faith.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#766522 Aug 8, 2014
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>Jacob, son of Isaac and Rebekah, was favored by God by the promise made to Abraham that the chosen people would come from his seedline. That being said later in Jacob's life God called his name Israel and the name Jacob was no more. Now Israel, formally Jacob, had many children but 12 was chosen to become that nation of brethren who God chose to be above ALL nations and the seedline remains in existence to this day. So, if U weren't being sarcastic, "House of Israel" means everyone who are descendant from the seedline of those 12 sons of Jacob (Israel). Just like saying the "House of River Tam", meaning ALL of your sons, daughters, neices, nephews, grandkids, and their grandkids, and so on.
I'm gay. I have no sons or daughters.

So, God called him Israel but on formal occasions he was called Jacob. I find that odd.

“Game Over”

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#766523 Aug 8, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
The Grand Finale
Written by Kenneth Copeland
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In January 1983, God instructed me to share a very timely message of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit in the former and the latter rain with the Body of Christ. This message concerns the responsibilities that are upon us as the children of God. This is a most critical hour in the history of the Church.
I am going to share with you what the Holy Spirit dealt with me about during an extended period of time in prayer and fasting and fellowship with God.
God revealed to me that He is calling the Body of Christ to rally around the prayer of intercession. He is calling us to call on Him to pour out of His Spirit great and unusual manifestations of His power.
God is about to bring forth the grand finale. It will be the greatest production by the Spirit of God in the history of the human race as we know it. Think about it! We are going to have the glorious privilege of not only witnessing the move of God's Spirit in these last days but we are the vessels through which this mighty power will flow!
You and I are privileged to be the generation of the Holy Spirit. God has raised up a people who will know the life and ministry of the Holy Spirit more than any before us. Even the generation who witnessed the ministry of Jesus in the earth did not experience it in the intensity that we will.
Jesus said, "The works that I do shall ye do also; and greater works than these shall ye do; because I go unto my Father" (John 14:12). We have a great commission and a tremendous responsibility. Now is the time for these greater works.
This is the finest hour to be alive in the history of the human race! More people are exercising faith in Jesus Christ today than ever before! We are blessed above all other generations because of the excellence of God's Word that we have.
We are experiencing revelation knowledge through television, radio, churches everywhere (teaching the full counsel of God's Word), books, CDs, DVDs, even via satellite around the world.
We have the foundation and experience of almost 2,000 years of faith and prayers of the mighty saints of God that have hone before us. We will be held responsible for what we do with the treasure house of equipment that God has given to us to communicate the gospel of Jesus Christ.
I believe we are at the end of what began on the day of Pentecost. The Apostle Peter said, "this [Pentecost] is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel." In the original text, as well as in other translations, it means, "This is the beginning of that." He was quoting the prophet Joel who said,
And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the Lord come.
And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the Lord hath said, and in the remnant whom the Lord shall call.
(Joel 2:28-32)
When the Word says "all flesh," it means all—the sinner, the saint, everyone!
Peter quoted Joel a little differently. I believe he did so by the unction of the Holy Spirit. He said,
And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will show wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke.(Acts 2:18-19)
http://www.cfaith.com/index.php/article-displ...

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Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#766524 Aug 8, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
The Grand Finale - Written by Kenneth Copeland
Notice the distinction between all flesh and the servants and handmaidens. The servants and handmaidens are people who have committed themselves totally to God. Their prophesying and God showing signs and wonders are directly connected. "They shall prophesy and I will show...."
Prophesying, in this instance, does not just mean the ministry of the prophet or the gift of prophecy (although they are included). Actually, it is speaking in the spirit, and praying and interceding in the spirit, and acting in the spirit in obedience to God.
God said as the servants and handmaidens intercede in the spirit, He will do the signs and the wonders. God is saying He needs you and me! We have our definite part to play in the outpouring of the signs and wonders.
When a person is born again, he does not become a servant of God, he becomes a child of God. For a son to become a servant, he must make a choice, "I will serve God." Too many people have accepted Jesus as Savior and have never made Him Lord.
I have made this decision. I want to be involved in what God is doing in this hour! I have become His bondslave, available to do His bidding 24 hours a day. I desire to be used of Him and to serve Him in any way I can.
Those who have become His servants and handmaidens will experience this great outpouring of His Spirit. They say what He says to say. Then He does what they say!
He needs those who won't hold back. He needs those who will cut every cord and burn every bridge behind them that ties them to this natural world. If He calls on them in the middle of the night for prayer, they get up and do it, no matter how tired they may be.
This is the quality and depth of dedication this kind of relationship with God requires. Those who give themselves totally to His service in this final hour will be God's mouthpiece in the earth, and the vehicles of His Spirit and mighty power.
http://www.cfaith.com/index.php/article-displ...

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#766525 Aug 9, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gay. I have no sons or daughters.
So, God called him Israel but on formal occasions he was called Jacob. I find that odd.
Nooo, he was called Jacob since birth by his family. Later on in his adult life he had an encounter with an angel and through that event God called his name Israel, which means "may God prevail" and "God is triumphant". The encounter was a wrestling match with the angel which Jacob was unaware that he was contending. The angel was in the form of a man so Jacob thought that he was battling a passer-byer. He almost "pinned" the disguised angel of the lord but then the angel tapped Jacob on his thigh and down went Jacob. So God, seeing Jacob's heart of a lion, called is name Israel from then on which means, well I already said it. And out of Jacob's (Israel's) seedline would be born a special people unto The Most High who shall receive the laws, the covenant, the promise, and eternal salvation. No other nation of people were meant to receive salvation, for salvation is of the ISRAELITES ONLY and the Israelites are those descending from Jacob's (Israel's) seedline which consist of 12 of his sons and their generations until that great and terrible day of the Lord when he will pluck his chosen people and save them from the destruction that will be brought upon the Earth by the hands of the wicked people that dwell here.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#766526 Aug 9, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Or intelligence that put the Earth's variable orbit at the perfect angle and the perfect distance from the sun and made the sun the perfect temperature, the moon the perfect size and distance.
Earlier, you saw Juice discussing "God" when she wasn't, telling anti-white jokes when she wasn't, and the persecution of a restauranteur for being asked to obey the law. Now you see intelligence based on fine tuning. Let's look at that claim.

What's the angle of earth's orbit and what so surprising or perfect about it?

Did you know that there is evidence that Mars used to have large, liquid water ocean? it's about half again as far from the sun.

Did you know that the moon has been steadily receding from the earth since its inception 4.5 billion years ago, and continues to do so. It is now over ten times as far from earth as it was originally. Early on, the tides it produced were monstrous: "A billion years ago, our relationship with the Moon was quite different. For one thing, the Moon was much closer and therefore appeared much larger: and we saw the entire Moon, not just one face as we do now. It took the Moon only twenty days to circle the Earth, and Earth's day was only eighteen hours long. Massive tides, over a kilometer in height, would ebb and flow every few hours. From the beginning though, things were changing, as the Moon's orbit was getting larger." http://starryskies.com/articles/2007/10/prima... That was a billion years ago. Days were about 18 hours then, and months about 20 days.

How rare are planets like our? "On November 4, 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of sun-like stars and red dwarf stars within the Milky Way Galaxy. 11 billion of these estimated planets may be orbiting sun-like stars. The nearest such planet may be 12 light-years away, according to the scientists." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planetary_habita...

Do you know what is required for terrestrial life like us to form? We need a fairly stable sun, a planet or moon with a hard crust and permanently liquid oceans, an atmosphere with oxygen and ozone, a liquid metallic core and resulting magnetic field to shelter us, our oceans and our atmosphere from the solar wind, and a single large moon to provide a fairly stable axial tilt and relatively stable climate. When we include moons, that 11 billion number probably doubles to quadruples. The likeliest places to find extraterrestrial life in our solar system are all moons, not planets.

Even with all of the advantages listed above, earth is still not as hospitable to life as your apologetics sources like to indicate. Did you know that almost all life on earth was extinguished about 250 million years ago by prolonged and extreme volcanic activity?

Did you know that there is good evidence that the earth was entirely encased in ice for tens of millions of years about 650 million years ago, and possibly one or two other times?


Faith often has a tremendous and deleterious impact a believer's worldview. You see a rare planet that you are taught is a safe and comfortable home built just for us But that's a nonscientific perspective. In addition to ice ages and vulcanism, throw in earthquakes, tsunamis, floods, tornadoes, hurricanes, meteor impacts, droughts, famines, plagues and epidemics, and the case for a protector in the sky evaporates away. All you can do is call those things its wrath.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#766527 Aug 9, 2014
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>Nooo, he was called Jacob since birth by his family. Later on in his adult life he had an encounter with an angel and through that event God called his name Israel, which means "may God prevail" and "God is triumphant". The encounter was a wrestling match with the angel which Jacob was unaware that he was contending. The angel was in the form of a man so Jacob thought that he was battling a passer-byer. He almost "pinned" the disguised angel of the lord but then the angel tapped Jacob on his thigh and down went Jacob. So God, seeing Jacob's heart of a lion, called is name Israel from then on which means, well I already said it. And out of Jacob's (Israel's) seedline would be born a special people unto The Most High who shall receive the laws, the covenant, the promise, and eternal salvation. No other nation of people were meant to receive salvation, for salvation is of the ISRAELITES ONLY and the Israelites are those descending from Jacob's (Israel's) seedline which consist of 12 of his sons and their generations until that great and terrible day of the Lord when he will pluck his chosen people and save them from the destruction that will be brought upon the Earth by the hands of the wicked people that dwell here.
Hmm, god plucking usually doesn't turn out so well for the grapes....chomp chomp chomp

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#766528 Aug 9, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>Stilgar Fifrawi wrote, "
See, IANS? I told you that making jokes on white people is perfectly PC. Now tell a black joke just as vile. Maybe something about drugs, fatherless children or crime. Go."

See what? Are you claiming that Juice just made a joked against whites?

What I have been seeing is Juice not discussing your god and you claiming that she was, me discussing Christianity and you calling it discussing Christians, you calling a restauranteur that was asked to obey the law persecuted, and you calling the above an example of Juice telling a joke about whites.

You can understand my skepticism when you also tell me that you see a god, or an irreducibly complex eye, or anti-Christian bigotry, or anything else to do with your faith.
This was a guy's response to a racist remark, also an example of what I did not write:

http://i.imgur.com/zLE3fha.jpg

Damn "crackers" shore do get offended when receiving a taste of their own medicine.

Funny but racism is still stupid. I'm genetically incapable of that.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#766529 Aug 9, 2014
Bigger Baby Jeebus wrote:
<quoted text>It originated in the UK, from "doling out" money. I'm surprised it didn't make it to your big rock in the Indian Ocean.
Certainly and it has, I just didn't know it was a term used in America. It's interesting to learn new things.
Huh

North Richland Hills, TX

#766530 Aug 9, 2014
curiouslu wrote:
<quoted text>
This was a guy's response to a racist remark, also an example of what I did not write:
http://i.imgur.com/zLE3fha.jpg
Damn "crackers" shore do get offended when receiving a taste of their own medicine.
Funny but racism is still stupid. I'm genetically incapable of that.
Your link was the most uncomfortably funny thing I have read this week.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#766531 Aug 9, 2014
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
<quoted text>Was the coming of the Lord prophesied in the OT?

Would that be the precoming of the Lord?
The dribbling deity?

Since: Jan 12

Memphis, TN

#766532 Aug 9, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Hmm, god plucking usually doesn't turn out so well for the grapes....chomp chomp chomp
U must be an athiest! If U are, then I understand why U joke about The Most High...remember, we shall be held accountable for every single word that we utter...but U might have to wait until U meet your maker for U to understand that!
Huh

North Richland Hills, TX

#766533 Aug 9, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm gay. I have no sons or daughters.
So, God called him Israel but on formal occasions he was called Jacob. I find that odd.
You can adopt me.
Huh

North Richland Hills, TX

#766534 Aug 9, 2014
My Two Hot Moms.
Huh

North Richland Hills, TX

#766535 Aug 9, 2014
My Two Hot Moms at The Jersey Shore with an American Idol Voice Bachelor Real People and the Folsom Twins, Bucknut and Fucknut are The Biggest Losers.
Huh

North Richland Hills, TX

#766536 Aug 9, 2014
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>U must be an athiest! If U are, then I understand why U joke about The Most High...remember, we shall be held accountable for every single word that we utter...but U might have to wait until U meet your maker for U to understand that!
You must be a Christian. You are ignorant and uneducated and proffer nothing but bifurcated, ridiculous, childish threats.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#766537 Aug 9, 2014
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>Your link was the most uncomfortably funny thing I have read this week.
Lol, welcome to the Internet?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#766538 Aug 9, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Impossible things:
[1] An omniscient being that grants free will
[2] An omnipotent being incapable of being in the presence of sin
[3] A perfect being needing worship
[4] A perfect being that changes its mind
[5] A perfect being that makes mistakes or contradicts itself
[6] A perfect being that creates or alters anything
[7] A non-spacial being being omnipresent
[8] An onmibenevolent being that permits evil and allows suffering
[9] A perfectly just being that punishes innocents like offspring.
[10] A merciful being that damns without hope of forgiveness from hell.
[11] Anything existing, persisting, thinking or acting outside of time. Those verbs, like all verbs, imply an interval of time.
[12] An omnipresent being that we can be separated from.
[13] An omnisicient being that tests people
[14] An omnipotent being that wants anything
[15] An omnibenevolent being that exhibits wrath and tortures souls
[16] An omnibenevolent being that unleashes a master demon on earth
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Does it bother you that God doesn't follow your "rules" about how He should be?

I don't believe in your god. But you do. Does it bother you that it is described in mutually exclusive terms? It would if you cared about the truth. You have faith instead, which cannot possibly be a means of determining truth, since any idea or its opposite are equally believable through faith. Only evidence and reason allow us to distinguish correct ideas from incorrect ones. They tell us that the being described above is impossible. Faith gives you permission to ignore reason, the surest way to go wrong. You have no hope of returning to the world of truth and reason if you don't respect them.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#766539 Aug 9, 2014
scaritual wrote:
Let's call blind religious faith what it is; Ignorance.
Agreed. In fact, I think I just did that.

It seems very helpful to return faith to its rightful place: flawed thinking, not something to be venerated or extolled.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#766540 Aug 9, 2014
DeAngelo of Memphis wrote:
<quoted text>U must be an athiest! If U are, then I understand why U joke about The Most High...remember, we shall be held accountable for every single word that we utter...but U might have to wait until U meet your maker for U to understand that!
The most high was just the herder who had the best pot.

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