Prove there's a god.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#763803 Jul 31, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
It takes Intelligence to create life from non life.
Stop repeating yourself and just pony up the evidence for your claim.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#763804 Jul 31, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
Then providing driver education facilitates running red lights. Teaching Darwinism destroys any basis for belief in morality as does atheism.
What? I understand it's hard for you to write with a 2 digit IQ, but seriously, that's about the worst analogy I've seen.
It is Topix and the majority here are atheists and non rational. You are the one who says abstinence only facilitates teen pregnancy.
No, quote-mining dishonest person, we say "abstinence ONLY education" facilitates teen pregnancy."

How can you be so stupid to think that your audience would simply accept such a blatantly dishonest phrase?

Oh right. You are the person who chose "Lightbeamrider" for a name. Nevermind, carry on.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#763805 Jul 31, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
You can't cherry pick at science, young man.
lightbeamrider wrote:
Like hell i can't. It is not your place to tell anybody what they can and cannot do.
aaaaaaaaaahhhhahahahahahaha! hahahaha!!!

Yes, my apologies good sir. You can do whatever you like, especially if that includes ignoring reality.

Yeah, totally. Stay ignorant and stupid. Just pretend that entire disciplines of science are wrong because of your stupidity. Why are they wrong? Because Lightbeamrider says so!

150 years of biological science?

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

200 years of geological science?

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

250 years of physics?

Oh, I love you guys, lots of gaps to insert my gods!

150 years of anthropology?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Lightbeamrider, you are the reason education exists. It's like a pesticide for people like you. When I have kids, I'm having them read your posts as a warning to what can go horribly wrong in human maturation.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#763806 Jul 31, 2014
Laser Beam wrote:
Thanks for sharing with us how utterly stupid you are , you arrogant and ignorant atheist prick. You are an imbecile dedicated to delusional bullshit that only the pathetic duped mind of an atheist can dream up. Please, die tomorrow, you sack of shit LIAR.
There you go, lightbeamrider. These are Christian ethics at play - not the ones you claim for yourselves whday.ile pointing to the pretty passages of a book that you ignore. but the ones we see here on Topix every This is the atheophobia your bible endorses and that your priests encourage.

And death as punishment is central to Christian psychology. According to your murderous ideology, it was the punishment Adam and Eve and their descendents earned for disobedience, and also the source of redemption from damnation, a second and worse death. And history is littered with dead bodies killed for Christ, often after torture.

Most of you are too far gone to see care.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#763807 Jul 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't take scientific opinions from faith based thinkers.
<quoted text>
Worshiping is for for people willing to grovel and fawn at the feet of narcissists requiring worship. It is emblematic of issues with self-worth. Why would you debase yourself like that?
<quoted text>
Humanist morality is superior to Christian morality. Your bible endorses rape, monarchy, treating women and children as property, genocide, infanticide and slavery. It was rational ethicists who looked to their hearts and minds, rejected your religion, and declared its values barbaric. You simply cannot make that go away.
Nothing is more nihilistic than Christianity, which teaches you to loathe your own flesh, disesteem and blame mankind, and separate oneself from and hate the world. Name a more pessimistic, nihilistic and misanthropic philosophy than that.
Humanists by contrast are optimistic. Where you see apocalyptic destruction, we see unlimited potential for humankind: http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
This is my new motto:

Hidingfromyou wrote:
"You can't cherry pick at science, young man."

Lightbeamrider: "Like hell i can't. It is not your place to tell anybody what they can and cannot do."

When I get that journal article back that says "Have you read what X claims about embodiment? I think you need to rephrase here. Do you have any data to support your claim Y?"

I'm just going to write "Screw you guys, I can cherry pick my science because Lightbeamrider says so!"

Or when I become the manager of a nuclear power plant and it's failing, I'll just say:

"No problem, guys. We can just ignore anything we find distasteful. Lightbeamrider tells us that anything outside of our belief system can simply be ignored, especially if it challenges our desires in some way. Ignore that red light."

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#763808 Jul 31, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I hate long waits, we might as well wait together though.
It could happen before the second coming , actually monogamy is my thing. But I have tried
multiple partners. Somehow it never works, It's like being drawn and quartered.
You just have to keep all your relationships in the first bit of happiness, and then juggle the time well.

:)

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#763809 Jul 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
We don't take scientific opinions from faith based thinkers.
Source does not matter if the info is correct.
Humanist morality is superior to Christian morality.
Your posts do not demonstrate morality. If anything they demonstrate bigotry.
Your bible endorses rape,
Well it records rape. That is not the same as endorsing. You are a bible illiterate.
monarchy, treating women and children as property,
So?
genocide, infanticide and slavery.
Yeah thoses things were done for all kinds of reasons. You only highlight those things because you despise the Bible and define Christians by the Old Testament. We have been over this over and over again and you trot out the same accusations. Ignore explanations, historical context. etc.
It was rational ethicists who looked to their hearts and minds, rejected your religion, and declared its values barbaric. You simply cannot make that go away.
Rid yourself of your bigotry. Your posts are laced with hate. You have been told this time and time again and have ignored. Now you are simply spamming the same tired old song and dance.
Nothing is more nihilistic than Christianity, which teaches you to loathe your own flesh, disesteem and blame mankind,
Yeah we know your bigotry agianst Christians.
and separate oneself from and hate the world. Name a more pessimistic, nihilistic and misanthropic philosophy than that.
Yeah we know your bigotry against Christians.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#763810 Jul 31, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

Revelation 20:2-3
And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.
That was worthless.

Here's something equally worthless as a token of my esteem and gratitude:

Qu'ran Al-Ghashiyah
88:11 Wherein they will hear no unsuitable speech.
88:12 Within it is a flowing spring.
88:13 Within it are couches raised high

O holy! Couches will be raised high. Couches, I tell you!

And yea verily, love seats. Love seats will be elevated by the angels.

Chaises will be lifted, davenports will ascend, and settees will float,

And divans will sprout wings as chesterfields head for the clouds.

Your religion is equally

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#763811 Jul 31, 2014
dirty white boy- wrote:
<quoted text> hahaha!
Now that is just right down unfriendly..
that's no way to start off a Monday..
So I guess that means no, you didn't get any slack jerked in them jeans over the wkend?
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1935366912/hB6BD...

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#763812 Jul 31, 2014
Laser Beam wrote:
One by one, they will be cast into the lake of fire to begin their eternal destruction and painful payback for their hatred and scoffing of Christians.
You reveal too much with that. Hellfire is YOUR revenge for how YOU being rejected
Laser Beam wrote:
We get to watch each of them as they are thrown into the Hell they sorely deserve ...I gleefully enjoy knowing that I will get the entertaining joy of watching these hateful atheists get thrown into Hell ... I love knowing they will eternally suffer intense PAIN.
You come by your sadism and lust for torture honestly. Behold your filthy religion:

[1] "In order that the happiness of the saints may be more delightful to them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, they are allowed to see perfectly the sufferings of the damned ... So that they may be urged the more to praise God ... The saints in heaven know distinctly all that happens ... to the damned" - Thomas Aquinas

Apparently you, god and the angels will be rejoicing at the souls in hell:

[2] "The door of mercy will be shut and all bowels of compassion denied, by God, who will laugh at their destruction; by angels and saints, who will rejoice when they see the vengeance' by their fellow-suffer the devil and the damned rejoicing over their misery." - Bishop Newcomb

If you don't enjoy watching people being tortured yet, don't worry. It's only because you are not as perfect yet - as much in His image - as you will be:

[3] "This display of the divine character will be most entertaining to all who love God, will give them the highest and most ineffable pleasure. Should the fire of this eternal punishment cease, it would in a great measure obscure the light of heaven, and put an end to a great part of the happiness and glory of the blessed." - Samuel Hopkins

It's hard to imagine how that could be so entertaining for so long to a and perfectly loving god, or how such a god could be called merciful and compassionate. From 'Christian Theology in Plain Language,' p. 219 comes this explanation of God's love:

[4] "Non-Christians often ask the Christian,“But how can the God of love allow any of his creatures to suffer unending misery?” The question is, how can he not? The fact that God is love makes hell necessary."

So don't worry if all of this seems a little horrible to you now. This famous preacher is letting you know how happy torture will make you as well once you have gone home to be with your loving god:

[5]“The view of the misery of the damned will double the ardor of the love and gratitude of the saints of heaven ... The sight of hell torments will exalt the happiness of the saints forever ... Can the believing father in Heaven be happy with his unbelieving children in Hell ... I tell you, yea! Such will be his sense of justice that it will increase rather than diminish his bliss." - Jonathan Edwards

This early church father is certainly planning on having a good time watching others suffer and even laughing at them:

[6] "How shall I admire, how laugh, how rejoice, how exult, when I behold so many proud monarchs groaning in the lowest abyss of darkness; so many magistrates liquefying in fiercer flames than they ever kindled against the Christians; so many sages philosophers blushing in red-hot fires with their deluded pupils; so many tragedians more tuneful in the expression of their own sufferings; so many dancers tripping more nimbly from anguish then ever before from applause." - Tertullian

Does this include infants?

[7]“Reprobate infants are vipers of vengeance, which Jehovah will hold over hell, in the tongs of his wrath, till they turn and spit venom in his face!”-Jonathan Edwards

But what about your own children? This one from the Catholic Truth Society is as beautiful as a mother's love for her child:

[8] "What will it be like for a mother in heaven who sees her son burning in hell? She will glorify the justice of God."

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#763813 Jul 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Those genealogies are obviously bogus. Apart from the fact that the genealogies in Matthew and Luke contradict one another, they are conspicuously deficient in women. You have 2 parents half of which are women, 2^2 = 4 grandparents half of which are women, 2^3 = 8 great-grandparents half of which are women, 2^4 = 16 great-great grandparents half of which are women, 2^5 = 32 great.great-grandparents half of which are women.
If we go back 30 generations, you have up to 2^30 = 1,073,741,824 (over a billion) ancestors, probably fewer because of duplication due to cousins and other relatives marrying. Only one of them is your father's father's father's father's ... father's father. The genealogy connecting you to any other ancestor goes through women. One of them is your father's mother's father's mother's ... father. Another is your father's father's mother's mother's father's father's (etc.)
Now look at those genealogies again.
Show me a genealogy that is overwhelmingly male in a paternalistic society's mythology, and I'll show you a piece of fiction.
They do not lengthy put genealogies in fiction. If you have a lengthy genealogy then you have history, not fiction. They are all over the Old and new, along with construction specs. Locations, towns, dates etc. All this indicates recorded history. You also have fiction accounts which are called parables. Trees talking to each other.

http://www.ldolphin.org/2adams.html

http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.asp...

You are simply in reliance on the ignorance and prejudice of the Topix audience. In any neutral setting you would be exposed as a buffoon.

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#763814 Jul 31, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>lightbeamrider wrote, "Like hell i can't. It is not your place to tell anybody what they can and cannot do."

aaaaaaaaaahhhhahahahahahaha! hahahaha!!!

Yes, my apologies good sir. You can do whatever you like, especially if that includes ignoring reality.

Yeah, totally. Stay ignorant and stupid. Just pretend that entire disciplines of science are wrong because of your stupidity. Why are they wrong? Because Lightbeamrider says so!

150 years of biological science?

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

200 years of geological science?

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaah!

250 years of physics?

Oh, I love you guys, lots of gaps to insert my gods!

150 years of anthropology?

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!

Lightbeamrider, you are the reason education exists. It's like a pesticide for people like you. When I have kids, I'm having them read your posts as a warning to what can go horribly wrong in human maturation.
Well put, thought you might like this:

http://i.imgur.com/NUNguqy.jpg

Since: Dec 12

Yes, I'm an Atheist.

#763815 Jul 31, 2014

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#763816 Jul 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
There you go, lightbeamrider.
I am not laser beam and it is no secret you define Christianity by abuses in the same manner a KKK member would define blacks by a dumb person. You are a bigot.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#763817 Jul 31, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
<quoted text>
This is my new motto:
Hidingfromyou wrote:
"You can't cherry pick at science, young man."
Lightbeamrider: "Like hell i can't. It is not your place to tell anybody what they can and cannot do."
When I get that journal article back that says "Have you read what X claims about embodiment? I think you need to rephrase here. Do you have any data to support your claim Y?"
I'm just going to write "Screw you guys, I can cherry pick my science because Lightbeamrider says so!"
Or when I become the manager of a nuclear power plant and it's failing, I'll just say:
"No problem, guys. We can just ignore anything we find distasteful. Lightbeamrider tells us that anything outside of our belief system can simply be ignored, especially if it challenges our desires in some way. Ignore that red light."
That is why your Darwinism brings about moral nihilism or moral anarchy. You constantly distort posts which means you are dishonest. There is a decided difference between nuclear power plants and macro evolution. According to you to dissent from macro evolution is to dissent from the hard science involved in nuclear power plants. Its an idiot con job. You do that sort of thing all the time and it has been pointed out to you and you have ignored.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#763818 Jul 31, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text>
2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
Revelation 20:2-3
And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years, and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, so that he might not deceive the nations any longer, until the thousand years were ended. After that he must be released for a little while.
Do you often believe other peoples nightmares? Maybe I should tell you some of mine, cause I`m sure god implanted them there.

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#763819 Jul 31, 2014
Laser Beam wrote:
<quoted text>
Very well said We get to watch each of them as they are thrown into the Hell they sorely deserve. The thing is, they willfully know they are wrong and yet have chosen to be evil, which is why I gleefully enjoy knowing that I will get the entertaining joy of watching these hateful atheists get thrown into Hell.
One by one, they will be cast into the lake of fire to begin their eternal destruction and painful payback for their hatred and scoffing of Christians. I particularly will enjoy watching Scrooge burn. I hope I get the honor of pushing him into the flames.
Atheists are human filth and I love knowing they will eternally suffer intense PAIN.
Those thought right there is sending you to the lake of fire you want other to burn in. Haven`t you ever read your bible?

It is not what goes into a man that defileth a man, but what come out of him.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#763820 Jul 31, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
Hi to you also christine :)
I was wondering where you were, haven't seen you on..
Stop being such a hard as$ and lighten up a little :)

“The Bible is no science book”

Since: Jan 08

Location hidden

#763821 Jul 31, 2014
Laser Beam wrote:
<quoted text>
While you can. Keep that in mind, bigot. Once you are in Hell, you'll never laugh again. You'll be screaming and crying from agony and pain as you get what you deserve. Meanwhile , I enjoy watching you desperately try to get some joy out of persecuting Christians, that which your evil god, Satan, has ordered you to do.
You serve a very cruel liar.
If you didn`t like being thought a fool, why did you come to this one particular thread?
As said before, your attitude will get you burnt long before any of us. Because you come here deliberately looking for trouble. And you know you will find it.

Does it make you feel all warm and Jesus like to curse other people? Well go ahead and get it all out. Better you get it out here than in your real life, where you might be behind bars for treating people like this.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#763823 Jul 31, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
Source does not matter if the info is correct.
You're unteachable. I'll just copy the answer I gave you the last time you made that erroneous assertion. From http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...

"You're putting the cart before the horse again. We don't always know whether information is correct. We have to judge whether it is, or how likely it is to be correct, and we use the source among other things to do so. Reputation and past performance matter. Values and methods matter. Credentials matter.

"I have mentioned Christian apologetics sites before, and why just about anything found only on such a site should be rejected. Such site don't generate original research, and since there is nothing known only to Christians, if something on one of them is true, it can be found in a secular source.

"Since the ethics of Christian apologists are well known - the willingness to lie, to revise history, and to manufacture quotes - nothing found only on Christian sites should be believed. Anti-science disinformation is a prime example. "
lightbeamrider wrote:
you despise the Bible and define Christians by the Old Testament.
I consider your bible less than useless. It's full of misinformation and bad examples.

Christians define themselves by the Old Testament. That's why they included it in their bibles. That's why they want its creation story in our children's textbooks, why they make epic movies about its flood story and Exodus, and why they want its Ten Commandments on our courtroom walls.

Now you want to disavow it.
lightbeamrider wrote:
Yeah we know your bigotry agianst Christians.
Liar.

I judge people individually. I enjoy the company of many Christians, and treat those who treat me with respect the same way.

My contempt for you is because of who you as an individual. You seem to think that you have the moral right to make personal attacks against my character in retaliation for expressing sincerely held, well considered, and well supported ideas about the church that you cannot defend with evidence and argument, and so resort to personal smears.

That's what makes you Christian trash. You individually. Not because of any class you belong to, but because of who you are and what you do.

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