Prove there's a god.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762618 Jul 27, 2014
scaritual wrote:
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When you say "lit", do you mean literature? If so you'd be wrong, and although it's a terribly bad read, there are several bibles in my house. I have a program called BibleWorks with 200 translations of the bible, also, on my drive as well(this is a short list taken from my recent documents history, and not counting my bookcase) I have:
Apocryphal Gospels, Texts and Translations
Jesus, Interrupted
Britannica Encyclopedia of World Religions
Misquoting Jesus, The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why
Cannon of the New Testament
The Anthropology of Eastern Religions
Chinese Mythology
Code of Hammurabi
Global INDEX of Religiosity and Atheism
Gospel Chronologies
Ancient Roman History
How Jesus Became God - The Exaltation Of A Jewish Preacher From Galilee
Proving History
A Handbook of Ancient Religions
A History of Religion
A Grammar Of Biblical Aramaic
Religions Of The Ancient Levant
Native North American Religions and Spiritual Practices
The Prehistory of the Mind. A Search for the Origins of Art, Religion and Science
Like I said, that's just an easily available short list I compiled for this post. There are too many to completely list here. You don't even want to know what I have bookmarked in my browser concerning these subjects.
As far as the curiosity of a child goes, you'll have to take my word on this as far as it applies to my son. When you don't teach your child about god(S) or religion(S), they don't ask about them in the early years, and if they ask during the later years, he can go to the bookcase, or choose from other books laying around, in boxes and such, and pick up anything he wants, read from anything he wants, and if he has had or does have a question, I answer, but I don't supply my view. I encourage him to form his own view, and then tell me what he has arrived at or decided.
Those times have been very few.
He also has access to any bookmarks or documents in my .pdf,.txt, epub, mobi, and .doc folders on my computer as well(around 2 gb), PLUS, he can crawl the internet himself, if he feels the need to look further than what is available here, either on my comp, bookcase, etc...
Now...
Do you think I'm forming a belief within him, or is he forming his own view?
More importantly, do you think he would have such a wide range of texts to choose from, in his house, were I a Christian?
Wow. You probably know more about the Bible than any Christian here.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762619 Jul 27, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>We already get your hatred for Christians, now go tell somebody else about it. Your spewage is tedious.
IANS: 1

Nano: 0

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762620 Jul 27, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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I think she's earned the respect of all unbelievers, which is not surprising given her stated goal - to spread the love of her god.
May the bluebird of happiness fly up your nose and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your crotch and armpits.
Where's my bug spray, where'smybugspray?!?

Since: Sep 10

Manhattan Beach, CA

#762621 Jul 27, 2014
Tide with Beach wrote:
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No part of your response is anywhere close to being correct.
Please, Tide, don't encourage the Redneck.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762622 Jul 27, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
Not before creating a unique Christian nation.
And only in his private notes.
Kind of arrogant of Hitler to declare himself God.
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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By that logic, Zeus was Christian too.
o.O
Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you decide to take the Joy way of answering posts now?

If so, I'll answer in the same way:

Unless it's on Tuesday, in which case, I'd go with blue.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762623 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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Hitler killed Jews, homosexuals, Gypsies and Christians.
Praise Geeses?
Soooooo...uhm...

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762624 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
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George Washington the traitor?
I'm sorry, I'm not so familiar with your myths, but wasn't Jesus imprisoned as a criminal?

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762625 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
None of the above.
Hitler's actions were inspired by his idea of Darwinism and neo-paganism. See; the so-called "superior" aryan race the he so greatly loved.
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Words are important, Baby. See the "his version of" part above. Pay close attention to it.
You'll figure it out.
You are the one not figuring it out here - purposefully?

Social Darwinism is not Darwinism. Darwin himself did not agree with the concepts of Social Darwinism.

Eugenics is not Darwinism.

Since: Jan 11

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#762626 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
None of the above.
Hitler's actions were inspired by his idea of Darwinism and neo-paganism. See; the so-called "superior" aryan race the he so greatly loved.
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Words are important, Baby. See the "his version of" part above. Pay close attention to it.
You'll figure it out.
You can't even quote yourself correctly.

Hitler was not inspired by Darwinism, but by something Darwin opposed.

Perhaps you're just a tool, and don't know why other Christians do this, but please stop it. At least call it Social Darwinism to differentiate.

Really, the label "Social Darwinism" isn't very fair to Darwin either. I'm sure he wouldn't want his name on that shit.

Since: Jan 11

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#762627 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Hitler believed that the human gene pool could be improved by using selective breeding. That's his "master race" thingie. That's his love of science and evolution. And Darwinism.
You're a liar for Jesus.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762628 Jul 27, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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That was helpful.
The damage begins young as we suspected. And obviously, blighting the reality faculty in early life has ramifications for the future. Christians shouldn't be surprised that evidence based thinkers with well developed reality faculties reject their premises, their ways of thinking, and their conclusions. What they think about science or what a scripture means, for example, are of little direct interest.
Then they grow up and vote.
If they're correct, and I suspect they are, then the teaching of mythology to children, as if that mythology is real, makes it easier for them to accept fantastical explanations for real world phenomena.

In other words, it's direct evidence that religion = child abuse.

And, from what we see on here, it carries into adulthood. How many Christians - and those two Muslims - believe in complete nonsense, like Noah's Flood? Someone on the "Is homosexuality a sin?" thread claimed that people really lived 900 years old, as claimed in the Bible, b/c of "higher oxygen levels and no GMO foods." hahaha! I was beside myself laughing at his outright stupidity - but it's truly a sad, sad thing that religion has done this to him.

He might have otherwise been an intelligent person. He might have otherwise understood the implications of geology, biology, archaeology, history, paleoanthropology and marveled at human history.

And just think how much further the entire world would be if America didn't intellectually cripple half it's population.

Since: Jan 11

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#762629 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
100% wrong!-Pomona
Religion = a particular system of faith and worship.
Child abuse = Any recent act or failure to act on the part of a parent or caretaker which results in death, serious physical or emotional harm, sexual abuse or exploitation, OR an act or failure to act which presents an imminent risk of serious harm.
She's less than 20% wrong.

Since: Jan 11

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#762630 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Damn Japanese....
How's that for a generalization lol.
Too general.

You managed to not say anything.

“A sentient umbrella speaks”

Since: Mar 11

Some stable somewhere

#762631 Jul 27, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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It was a ruling more or less guaranteed to bring trouble. There will be more efforts to defy laws on religious grounds - basically the entire conservative agenda..
"Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote in her dissent in the Hobby Lobby case that the Court’s conservative majority had “ventured into a minefield” with its decision. Many of those mines have already been placed by right-wing leaders who claim a religious grounding not only for anti-gay, anti-abortion, and anti-contraception positions, but also for opposition to collective bargaining, minimum wage laws, progressive taxation and government involvement in the alleviation of poverty."
I think the secularists will be able to exploit this. These kinds of "religious beliefs" adversely affect tons of people each. Even Christian women want their contraceptives more than unwanted babies and abortions. And so do the men in their lives.
And how many lukewarm Christians and fence riders will become enthusiastic unbelievers when they see Christianity being used to hurt them.
I like your take on it here, but I fear the outcome will be different. Look at how rigorously the Christians here deny Nazi Germany its Christianity. I believe American Christians will simply blame companies if they disagree with their implementation of law by saying such things as "well, those people aren't acting Christian. They're simply a bad example of an otherwise perfect religion."

The discussion in the courts seems to be about proving whether business owners take their Bible seriously and that they're not rejecting paying for costs simply b/c that decreases profits. Good luck with that! Now the courts get to decide who is Christian and who is not.

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#762632 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
Why is it a mistake?
For obvious reasons.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#762633 Jul 27, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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I'm sorry, I'm not so familiar with your myths, but wasn't Jesus imprisoned as a criminal?
Yeah, but old George was too slick to get caught with the bag.
We all have our Cornwallis and Washington's, but we be bunker hill till Yorktown .
Don't worry it's nodda snake.

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It's United Snakes...lol .

Since: Jan 11

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#762634 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
You're either ignorant of this case or you're being deceitful.
The Hobby Lobby ruling does not prevent any woman in America from getting contraceptives of any kind.
Nor does it prevent people from being liars for Jesus.

What it does is allow employers to deny benefits based on their own subjective religious beliefs.

Employers who believe in faith healing could refuse to pay for medical benefits altogether.

Since: Jan 11

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#762635 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
I wonder what this country is coming to when people like the two of you are championing business owners being required to pay for people's leisure activities.
Seriously, what are we coming to? You guys want all businesses to pay for every type of birth control for every employee, that's a leisure activity. You like playing jeopardy. If you had a job, would you be pounding on your boss' door demanding that he pay for it? If you enjoyed dirtbike writing, would you demand that your boss buy you a dirtbike, pay for the fuel and the insurance on it? Those are just more leisure activities, why not make the business owners just pay for everything? You know what, they should even pay our electric bills, damn them.
Be careful that you don't walk into a socialist, communist mindset. I'm afraid that you might without even realizing it.
Slippery Slope Fallacy.

Since: Jan 11

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#762636 Jul 27, 2014
Catcher1 wrote:
Quick, hide in your garage.
Your ignorance is showing.
In big neon letters.

Since: Jan 11

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#762637 Jul 27, 2014
Stilgar Fifrawi wrote:
I just don't understand how some people think that leisure activities should be covered and paid for by our business owners.
If anyone out there can try to make that makes sense, you're more than welcome to try.
Think about birth control pills, who makes them, who regulates them, who prescribes them, and who's responsibility it is to monitor the changes they inevitably cause to a woman's body.

When somebody breaks their arm while riding a dirt bike, that's a leisure injury, so it should be covered, right?

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