Prove there's a god.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748785 Jun 23, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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There is nothing spiritual about the OT, it was completely physical.
You'd learn alot by discussing this with a rabbi.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748786 Jun 23, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
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It was revealed to me by someone to whom it was revealed.
But back to your question of God's communication.
God never revealed himself, or communicated, with humanity as a whole. In fact the whole Old Testament is just about one nation, the nation of Israel, whom God chose for Himself and set them apart from other nations.
There is no mention in the OT that God ever revealed Himself to any other nation.
Before you call it racist you must understand that the Bible is dual, that is Physical and Spiritual. It was Jesus who revealed the spiritual side of it.
There is nothing spiritual about the OT, it was completely physical.
But they go side by side. Why do you think that Jesus and the 12 Apostles chose Paul as a separate Apostle to the gentiles?
Where did the 12 Apostles go then?
Why is there scarcely no mention of the 12 Apostles after Jesus' death, and is completely taken over by Paul's work among the gentiles?
Hint - Before he departed from this earth Jesus told his 12 Apostles "Do not go unto the gentiles, but unto the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel."
Who were these lost sheep, the physical house of Israel?
They were not the Jews, who were still living in their land when Jesus was alive.
Israel and the Jews were two separate nations.
The House of Israel had migrated north into Europe hundreds of years before Jesus came to the Jews. That is why they were called the lost sheep of the House of Israel, whom Jesus referred to, and whom his message was primarily to, and why he sent his 12 Apostles to them, not to the gentiles or the rest of humanity.
And which is why the Bible is in the hands of Europeans and their descendants, because it was meant primarily for them, as were also the physical blessings of great riches, power and dominance in the world, which God had promised them in the OT.
Do you understand? This truth, which is hidden from most of the world, will astound you.
There is actually a very good reason Jesus and his disciples did not proselytize to large portions of the Earth's human population, such as Asia, the Americas, and Australia; they had no idea they existed. But once God discovered those places, his fanclub was quite happy to proselytize to whoever would listen. While also ethnically cleansing them, stealing their land, possessions, and gifting them with smallpox.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748787 Jun 23, 2014
dirty white boy- wrote:
<quoted text> Now I'm convinced. WTF!
It's like Dan Brown on acid.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748789 Jun 23, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
<quoted text>
How could science observe an empirical act of God if science can't observe anything outside of matter or natural phenomena.
As a matter of fact science has proved an empirical act of God because it cannot explain otherwise the appearance of matter out of non-existence.
If God acts only outside of "matter and natural phenomenon", then it has no effect on us, and is irrelevant to us. Is that what you are suggesting?

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748790 Jun 23, 2014
waaasssuuup wrote:
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does a day go by in which you don't obsess about how to besmirch God and His people?
2 can play this game, but only one has already won!;-)
I think it's cute that you presume to be one of God's people, when your behavior suggests otherwise.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#748791 Jun 23, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>What else would you expect from someone who continues to admire Richard Dawkins who said that it was less traumatizing for a kid to be fondled/molested by a grownup than it was for them to be forced to go to church?
Hm, that's not really what it says is it?

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Physical versus mental child abuse

Extract from Chapter 9 of The God Delusion (2006) by Richard Dawkins

Once, in the question time after a lecture in Dublin, I was asked what I thought about the widely publicized cases of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland. I replied that, horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place. It was an off-the-cuff remark made in the heat of the moment, and I was surprised that it earned a round of enthusiastic applause from that Irish audience (composed, admittedly, of Dublin intellectuals and presumably not representative of the country at large). But I was reminded of the incident later when I received a letter from an American woman in her forties who had been brought up Roman Catholic. At the age of seven, she told me, two unpleasant things had happened to her. She was sexually abused by her parish priest in his car. And, around the same time, a little schoolfriend of hers, who had tragically died, went to hell because she was a Protestant. Or so my correspondent had been led to believe by the then official doctrine of her parents’ church. Her view as a mature adult was that, of these two examples of Roman Catholic child abuse, the one physical and the other mental, the second was by far the worst. She wrote

"Being fondled by the priest simply left the impression (from the mind of a 7 year old) as ‘yucky’ while the memory of my friend going to hell was one of cold, immeasurable fear. I never lost sleep because of the priest – but I spent many a night being terrified that the people I loved would go to Hell. It gave me nightmares."

Admittedly, the sexual fondling she suffered in the priest’s car was relatively mild compared with, say, the pain and disgust of a sodomized altar boy. And nowadays the Catholic Church is said not to make so much of hell as it once did. But the example shows that it is at least possible for psychological abuse of children to outclass physical. It is said that Alfred Hitchcock, the great cinematic specialist in the art of frightening people, was once driving through Switzerland when he suddenly pointed out of the car window and said,‘That is the most frightening sight I have ever seen.’ It was a priest in conversation with a little boy, his hand on the boy’s shoulder. Hitchcock leaned out of the car window and shouted,‘Run, little boy! Run for your life!’
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Black Power

Hayward, CA

#748792 Jun 23, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Here you have the curse of Ham coming right back out you. We might call it the curse of Fried Chicken.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
Sir, there is no curse of Ham. It is the curse of Canaan. The curse of "Ham" comes out the talmud created by those satanic Jews (white Jews).

SATANIC VERSES OF THE JEWISH TALMUD

https://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.fatimamovement.com/i-JewishTalmudE...

Revelation 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty,(but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelatio...

Now lets go back to the "curse of Ham" Which is the curse of Canaan. You see skin color was a curse but it wasn't black........it was WHITE.

Leviticus 14:34
34 When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

The land of Canaan had the plague of leprosy. Now lets see what skin color a leper was.

2 Kings 5:27
The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Kings-5...

Numbers 12-10
10 When the cloud lifted from above the tent, Miriam’s skin was leprous[a]—it became as white as snow.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

You see the Canaanites where lepers . It means they were cursed WHITE.

“ad victoriam”

Since: Dec 10

arte et marte

#748793 Jun 23, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor female impersonator, gay Aura, with the usual retarded comments.

Is that the best you can do?
Everybody knows my demeanor preference and standing.
But you risk rile and lie , you a cheeto pussycat would run from your own shadow and revel in thy own muddle.Does my avatar appear feline to you?
Dimwit.
Mocking Jay

United States

#748794 Jun 23, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Sure, that is why we still have slavery in the USA.
Thanks for demonstrating religion, or lack there of, has little to do with being a liar.
What are you, like, 16?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#748796 Jun 23, 2014
"Thanks for being a real friend. I know it isn;t easy."

*snort*

"Correct, and we (RR and Ben) are both assholes. Don;t be like us."

Yep.

I just don't want to see you hurt."

Uh huh.

"I'm over you in 'that way'. I doubt I will ever fall in love again, you are one hell of an act to follow."

*snort*

"I am a lousy friend it seems. I seem to suck at everything."

Correct.

"I know I have no right, I hate myself for what I did to you. Blah blah blah hate, blah blah blah hate."

Uh huh.

"If your happy then I'm happy. Sorry for being a bitch."

No you're not.

"I think I should at least call and apologize to the girl/friend I ignored when I was sick. Thanks for making me realize what a jerk I am, maybe I can learn."

Nah. It's ok.

"If I don't know what I'm doing wrong I can never change. Don't you want me to treat the next girl (if it happens) better than I treated you?"

*snort*

"You are right. I should ask, not assume."

*snort*

"Sorry for being a bitch."

"Sorry for being an asshole."

"How can you ever forgive me."

"Sorry for being jealous."

*crickets*

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Ways the Christian God is like the most extreme version of an abusive (and possibly psychotic) boyfriend *ex*:
Needs constant praise and makes you feel guilty for just being human.
Has severe jealousy issues.
He lets painful experiences happen to you that he could easily prevent, just to test your devotion to Him.
Claims credit for everything good in your life; claims nothing bad in your life comes from Him.
Threatens you with eternal torture if you ever leave Him.
He is constantly swearing that He loves you and you need Him.(Thanks Richard Collins).
Ways to tell if you are in danger of being taken advantage of in a relationship with this abusive God:
You are highly defensive of Him from even the slightest criticism of His flaws.
You talk to Him every night, and He never responds yet still expects unwavering devotion.
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http://conversationalatheist.com/general-essa...
Cheetah

Sliema, Malta

#748798 Jun 23, 2014
wilderide wrote:
<quoted text>
If God acts only outside of "matter and natural phenomenon", then it has no effect on us, and is irrelevant to us. Is that what you are suggesting?
You misunderstand everything.
God acts on matter from outside of matter.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#748801 Jun 23, 2014
The alleged god and its religious adherents are Psychopaths, part one.

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Why do Psychopaths lie?

Psychopaths lie all the time and it’s perplexing to us. Dr. Morgan Scott Peck titled his book on human evil, People of the Lie, because one of the most common traits of a psychopath is that they lie. They seem to be compulsive liars. Why do they lie so much? They lie about important things and about unimportant things. They will lie about what they had for lunch. They will lie about their names, where they live and what happened when they went into the 7-11 to buy cigarettes. They lie when the truth would actually seem to serve them better. Why lie about innocuous details such as what they had for lunch? Actually there is a method to their madness. The psychopath’s lies are usually 180 degrees the opposite of the truth. These lies serve the purpose of misdirection.

Covert Sabotage

Psychopaths know how to destroy a person by covertly sabotaging every aspect of their lives. Their goal is to make their victim perceive life as hopeless and unfair. The victim had the audacity to be happy and the psychopath intends to change that. Toward this end, psychopaths will learn all of your vulnerabilities, all of your values, everything you care about, all the things which bring pleasure to your daily life and everything that you feel an emotional attachment to. Then the psychopath will surreptitiously sabotage those things.

It might be your favorite TV show, he will make sure you never get to watch it. It might be getting the garbage out to the curb each week, she will make sure you forget by calling to distract you. Your favorite food will be poisoned and you begin to think you’ve developed a food allergy to it. Your favorite cat will get killed after you prayed to God to always keep him safe because you loved him so much. If you think your car is safe because you keep it well maintained, he will cut your brake lines. You will never get that promotion, instead you will quit or be fired because you are too sick from being poisoned to actually make it to work. If you’ve always been good with managing your money, he will arrange emergencies that cost you more than you can afford. Your friends and family may abandon you after he spreads lies about you to them, then you become isolated except for the ever present psychopath. In other words, the psychopath will make sure you never feel secure, you never feel blessed, and you never get what you hoped for.

This covert aggression forms the backdrop of your life. It builds a level of constant stress in your body so that the psychopath’s other machinations will be even more effective. Against this back drop of perpetual disappointment, the psychopath’s small acts of kindness stand out in stark relief, it’s what you look forward to daily. You begin to rely on him to make your life feel meaningful. He becomes your anchor in the storm. But he alternates kindness with cruelty. The psychopath giveth and the psychopath taketh away. Now he has control over your reality. His craving for complete power over life and death has only just begun to be satisfied. In the end, he wants to know if he can manipulate you into the despair that makes you consider taking your own life.

Copyright © 2012-2013 Skylar
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“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#748802 Jun 23, 2014
RiccardoFire wrote:
Making solar panels creates pollution,
You people really need to be overcome and diluted out.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#748803 Jun 23, 2014
Divinity Surgeon wrote:
<quoted text>
Hm, that's not really what it says is it?
<quoted text>
Physical versus mental child abuse
Extract from Chapter 9 of The God Delusion (2006) by Richard Dawkins
Once, in the question time after a lecture in Dublin, I was asked what I thought about the widely publicized cases of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland. I replied that, horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place. It was an off-the-cuff remark made in the heat of the moment, and I was surprised that it earned a round of enthusiastic applause from that Irish audience (composed, admittedly, of Dublin intellectuals and presumably not representative of the country at large). But I was reminded of the incident later when I received a letter from an American woman in her forties who had been brought up Roman Catholic. At the age of seven, she told me, two unpleasant things had happened to her. She was sexually abused by her parish priest in his car. And, around the same time, a little schoolfriend of hers, who had tragically died, went to hell because she was a Protestant. Or so my correspondent had been led to believe by the then official doctrine of her parents’ church. Her view as a mature adult was that, of these two examples of Roman Catholic child abuse, the one physical and the other mental, the second was by far the worst. She wrote
"Being fondled by the priest simply left the impression (from the mind of a 7 year old) as ‘yucky’ while the memory of my friend going to hell was one of cold, immeasurable fear. I never lost sleep because of the priest – but I spent many a night being terrified that the people I loved would go to Hell. It gave me nightmares."
Admittedly, the sexual fondling she suffered in the priest’s car was relatively mild compared with, say, the pain and disgust of a sodomized altar boy. And nowadays the Catholic Church is said not to make so much of hell as it once did. But the example shows that it is at least possible for psychological abuse of children to outclass physical. It is said that Alfred Hitchcock, the great cinematic specialist in the art of frightening people, was once driving through Switzerland when he suddenly pointed out of the car window and said,‘That is the most frightening sight I have ever seen.’ It was a priest in conversation with a little boy, his hand on the boy’s shoulder. Hitchcock leaned out of the car window and shouted,‘Run, little boy! Run for your life!’
<quoted text>
fkn pathetic of you, a mother of 4 children, to post BS like that.
Congratulations! seems you're basically saying or at least agreeing that it is less harmful for a child to be fondled than told of Hell?

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#748804 Jun 23, 2014
The alleged god and its religious adherents are Psychopaths, part two.

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Slime

There are times when a psychopath lies and it’s painfully obvious. You might think that they would feel shame to be caught in a lie. They don’t. Instead, we feel embarrassed for them. When we’re faced with their naked lies, we avert our eyes to avoid being slimed with their shame. The psychopath doesn’t care, as long as we don’t question their version of reality.

Turning the Table on the Psychopath

It’s ironic that empathic people trust the psychopath because we can’t imagine being so duplicitous. Yet the psychopath, who relies on our trust and naivety, still feels paranoia, thinking that we will do unto them as they would do unto us. The psychopath actually has good reason to feel this way. He or she, knows that you might find out what they really are. You might realize that everything they’ve ever presented to you was a malicious lie. They believe that people will want revenge or will try to hold them responsible for their evil deeds.

In the past, psychopaths have gotten away with evil by playing this game of lies, deceit and manipulation. Most of us observed some aspects of it, but didn’t know what it meant. Now the tide is turning. As knowledge of psychopaths and their machinations becomes more common, the lies that once hid these abusers, now reveal them. I wonder where they will hide next?

Copyright © 2012-2013 Skylar
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Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#748805 Jun 23, 2014
Mocking Jay wrote:
<quoted text>What are you, like, 16?
No, just psychopathic and functionally we todd did.
gort

Germany

#748806 Jun 23, 2014
would you prefer your child be frightened of hell or go there? hell is the most horrible place. it is beyond the imagination even to begin to grasp the loathsomeness there. utterly vile and hideous.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748807 Jun 23, 2014
Cheetah wrote:
<quoted text>
You misunderstand everything.
God acts on matter from outside of matter.
If God acts on matter then it is empirical and can be studied. Whether God is outside of the laws of physics or not is irrelevant to that.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#748808 Jun 23, 2014
gort wrote:
would you prefer your child be frightened of hell or go there? hell is the most horrible place. it is beyond the imagination even to begin to grasp the loathsomeness there. utterly vile and hideous.
I agree. You should really tell children about Vahalla instead and encourage them to die bravely in battle.
Obama gotta white mama

Upper Darby, PA

#748810 Jun 23, 2014
Black Power wrote:
<quoted text>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham
Sir, there is no curse of Ham. It is the curse of Canaan. The curse of "Ham" comes out the talmud created by those satanic Jews (white Jews).
SATANIC VERSES OF THE JEWISH TALMUD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =quTXwTjgfc0XX
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
http://www.fatimamovement.com/i-JewishTalmudE...
Revelation 2:9
King James Version (KJV)
9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty,(but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Revelatio...
Now lets go back to the "curse of Ham" Which is the curse of Canaan. You see skin color was a curse but it wasn't black........it was WHITE.
Leviticus 14:34
34 When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
The land of Canaan had the plague of leprosy. Now lets see what skin color a leper was.
2 Kings 5:27
The leprosy therefore of Naaman shall cleave unto thee, and unto thy seed for ever. And he went out from his presence a leper as white as snow.
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/2-Kings-5...
Numbers 12-10
10 When the cloud lifted from above the tent, Miriam’s skin was leprous[a]—it became as white as snow.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
You see the Canaanites where lepers . It means they were cursed WHITE.
Now that's funny...'cursed white'...lol
Tell me, oh 'racist' if what you say is true that being white is a curse, then why is it that the blacks want to move into the white neighborhoods but that whites don't want to move in the black ones?

Ponder on this, brotha man!

BTW, here is a joke to loosen you up:
"Did you hear that Oprah got arrested at an airport?

A. Security lifted up her skirt and found a hundred pounds of crack.

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