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The first man to fight the battle against idolatry was Abraham who was the first monotheist, and this battle has been going on for centuries. Currently the battle is waged under the guise of evolution against intelligent design. Atheism, a primitive non-theistic form of religion (worship of self, money, nature, etc..) has been clandestinely slipped into our public school system under cover of the "good science" argument. It is not "good science" to insist on an atheist world view proposed by Richard Dawkins. This is indoctrinating our children into idolatry.
What about Akhenaton?

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If you really are a teacher I feel sorry for your students.
You have no clue what evolution means.
Crocodilians are so evolved they didn't need to change much in a 100 million years and several species are still around.
Hominidss are so poorly adapted that they have changed dramatically and in several directions over just a couple million years, so poorly adapted that all but one species is extinct.
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I am not Kait and I do not why you seem to think everyone is. I don't know why your posts get deleted.
ask me
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nano, you too. why do they delete gort's posts and not yours? why do you not ask for the plagiarized documents?
witch, you can fool pusher poo, but you can't fool me. you are so incredibly stupid.
Ssshhh, you'll wake the mod Beast!
I'm taking your word for it that mine aren't deleted, ok? If mine stay up and yours don't then it's a mystery to me, especially since the mods are obviously biased.
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Imagine if we were to try to spell out the 23 letters and spaces in
the phrase "THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION" by using the evolutionary principle
of _chance_. We might proceed by randomly drawing characters from a
Scrabble set consisting of the 26 letters of the alphabet plus a space
(for a total of 27). The probability of getting any particular letter
or space in our phrase using this method would be one chance out of 27
(expressed as 1/27). The probability of getting all 23 letters and
spaces in the order required for our phrase can be calculated by
multiplying together the probability of getting each letter and space
(1/27 x 1/27 x 1/27 -- for a total of 23 times). This calculation
reveals that we could expect to succeed in correctly spelling our phrase
by chance, approximately _once_ in eight hundred, million, trillion,
trillion draws!
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If we were to hurry the process along and draw our
letters at the rate of a billion per second, we could expect to spell
our simple little phrase once in 26 thousand, trillion years! But even
this is a "virtual certainty" compared to the probability of correctly
assembling any one of the known biological proteins by chance!
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The 500 amino acids that make up an average-sized protein can be
arranged in over 1 x 10^600 different ways (that's the number ONE
followed by 600 zeros)! This number is vastly larger than the total
number of atomic particles that could be packed into the known universe.
If we had a computer that could rearrange the 500 amino acids of a
particular protein at the rate of a billion combinations a second, we
would stand essentially no chance of hitting the correct combination
during the 14 billion years evolutionists claim for the age of the
universe. Even if our high-speed computer were reduced to the size of
an electron and we had enough of them to fill a room measuring 10
billion light years square (about 1 x 10^150 computers!), they would
still be exceedingly unlikely to hit the right combination. Such a
"room" full of computers could only rearrange about 1 x 10^180
combinations in 300 billion years. In fact, even if all the proteins
that ever existed on earth were _all different_, our "room" full of
computers would be exceedingly unlikely to chance upon the combination
of _any one of them_ in a mere 300 billion years!
well golly nano, aren't you curious enough to ask?
gort, stop sniffing that clue..
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And yet it happened....how wonderful.
Yes "it just happened", just like the universe appeared out of nothing.
The atheist's dilemma, and ultimate downfall.
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The Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that a system will always go from order to disorder unless there is a plan or outside intelligence to organize it.
World-renowned evolutionist Isaac Asimov when discussing the Second Law of Thermodynamics said:
"Another way of stating the second law then is:'The universe is constantly getting more disorderly!'" Viewed that way we can see the second law all about us. We have to work hard to straighten a room, but left to itself it becomes a mess again very quickly and very easily. Even if we never enter it, it becomes dusty and musty. How difficult to maintain houses, and machinery, and our own bodies in perfect working order: how easy to let them deteriorate. In fact, all we have to do is nothing, and everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself - and that is what the second law is all about."1
As Isaac Asimov says, everything becomes 'a mess ... deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself'. Now in complete opposition to one of most firmly established laws in science (the Second Law of Thermodynamics), people who support the theory of Evolution would have us believe that things become more organised and complex when left to themselves!
Some people argue that the earth is an open system and therefore the Second Law of Thermodynamics does not apply. Simply pouring in energy (sunlight) into the earth does not override the Second Law of Thermodynamics. As shown in Isaac Asimov's quote above, the Second Law still applies on earth. Pouring energy into a system makes things more disordered!
The brilliant scientist Lord Kelvin who actually formulated the Second Law of Thermodynamics says for very good scientific reasons; "Overwhelming strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us ... the atheistic idea is so non-sensical that I cannot put it into words." 9
As Dr John Ross of Harvard University rightly states:"… there are no known violations of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems.…"7
Evolution has no plan or outside intelligence and, according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, can never take place.
don't panic INQUISITOR
FIGHT LIKE A BIG GIRL
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To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing.
Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living organism and this has never been observed.
A Biology textbook puts it like this: "As we have seen, the life of every organism comes from its parents or parent. Does life ever spring from nonliving matter? We can find no evidence of this happening. So far as we can tell, life comes only from life. Biologists call this the principal of biogenesis." 8
So when it comes to real science (i.e. things we can actually establish by observation and experiment) life always comes from life! Evolutionists insist life came from nonliving matter but they have no way of proving this. Just saying something repeatedly doesn't make it true!

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Constant persecution for starters.
No dear, that's the voices in your head.
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Will you shut the hell up, ya freaking nut. No one is deleting your incoherent posts. This thread has really gone to hell...
gort is clearly INsane or on some BAD meds,DrUGs,,,

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The atheists have no answer to this, which is proof that evolution without intelligent design or intervention is impossible.
I don't think anyone has an answer for that..

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The idea that the universe has always been in existence has been thoroughly rejected on scientific grounds. The Laws of Thermodynamics show the universe must have had a beginning.
The First Law of Thermodynamics says that there is only a finite amount of energy and the Second Law says that the amount of available energy is continually decreasing. If the universe had existed forever, all the available existing energy would have already been used up.
THE ONLY LOGICAL CONCLUSION
The only logical / scientific explanation for the existence of the universe is that it was created by an outside intelligence.
The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated system never decreases, because isolated systems always evolve toward thermodynamic equilibrium, a state with maximum entropy.

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thewordofme wrote:
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And yet it happened....how wonderful.
Ex Post Facto statistics are always 0% or 100%
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You have no clue what evolution means.
Crocodilians are so evolved they didn't need to change much in a 100 million years and several species are still around.
Hominidss are so poorly adapted that they have changed dramatically and in several directions over just a couple million years, so poorly adapted that all but one species is extinct.
And you believe all that shit.

Apes don't need to evolve because they are perfectly adapted to their environment.
So are most other animals, and insects and birds.
There is no proof that they have ever evolved into anything.
The vast variety and perfect balance in nature show that there was intelligent design behind them.
It is only man, ever since his appearance on earth, that has upset this balance.
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To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing
Whoa , that's where God comes in. Atheists hate that since it holds them accountable for their wicked behavior

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The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of an isolated system never decreases, because isolated systems always evolve toward thermodynamic equilibrium, a state with maximum entropy.
The total energy of the Universe is zero. It will eventually reach equilibrium. At that point quantum effects 'may' violate the second law.

"Laws" are often demonstrated to be only probabilities and dependent on circumstances.

First law of Science, "Never say anything is impossible."

"In a Universe of infinite possibilities. all things are possible. One of those possibilities is that all things are NOT possible." - ME 1986

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gort wrote:
The Second Law of Thermodynamics tells us that a system will always go from order to disorder unless there is a plan or outside intelligence to organize it.
World-renowned evolutionist Isaac Asimov when discussing the Second Law of Thermodynamics said:
"Another way of stating the second law then is:'The universe is constantly getting more disorderly!'" Viewed that way we can see the second law all about us. We have to work hard to straighten a room, but left to itself it becomes a mess again very quickly and very easily. Even if we never enter it, it becomes dusty and musty. How difficult to maintain houses, and machinery, and our own bodies in perfect working order: how easy to let them deteriorate. In fact, all we have to do is nothing, and everything deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself - and that is what the second law is all about."1
As Isaac Asimov says, everything becomes 'a mess ... deteriorates, collapses, breaks down, wears out, all by itself'. Now in complete opposition to one of most firmly established laws in science (the Second Law of Thermodynamics), people who support the theory of Evolution would have us believe that things become more organised and complex when left to themselves!
Some people argue that the earth is an open system and therefore the Second Law of Thermodynamics does not apply. Simply pouring in energy (sunlight) into the earth does not override the Second Law of Thermodynamics. As shown in Isaac Asimov's quote above, the Second Law still applies on earth. Pouring energy into a system makes things more disordered!
The brilliant scientist Lord Kelvin who actually formulated the Second Law of Thermodynamics says for very good scientific reasons; "Overwhelming strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us ... the atheistic idea is so non-sensical that I cannot put it into words." 9
As Dr John Ross of Harvard University rightly states:"… there are no known violations of the Second Law of Thermodynamics. Ordinarily the second law is stated for isolated systems, but the second law applies equally well to open systems.…"7
Evolution has no plan or outside intelligence and, according to the Second Law of Thermodynamics, can never take place.
don't panic INQUISITOR
FIGHT LIKE A BIG GIRL
Consider a fetus. Non complex to complexity.

Could you please give me the link to the Dr. John Ross material?

You are not citing your sources properly. The reader of your 'essay' must be able to go to your sources.

Below is the correct way to cite your sources:

"PZ Myers put it: "The second law of thermodynamics argument is one of the hoariest, silliest claims in the creationist collection. It's self-refuting. Point to the creationist: ask whether he was a baby once. Has he grown? Has he become larger and more complex? Isn't he standing there in violation of the second law himself? Demand that he immediately regress to a slimy puddle of mingled menses and semen."
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Second_law_of_th...
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gort is clearly INsane or on some BAD meds,DrUGs,,,
IGnore the litle sHyt
You prove Satan exists.
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DON'T MOCK JESUS

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And you believe all that shit.
Apes don't need to evolve because they are perfectly adapted to their environment.
So are most other animals, and insects and birds.
There is no proof that they have ever evolved into anything.
The vast variety and perfect balance in nature show that there was intelligent design behind them.
It is only man, ever since his appearance on earth, that has upset this balance.
To bad Intelligent Design is NOT a real science, and is merely a plot by creationists to get around the separation of Church and State rule in public schools.

You people are devious and evil liars for Jesus, a true sign of your desperation.

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Ivtec wrote:
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Whoa , that's where God comes in. Atheists hate that since it holds them accountable for their wicked behavior
Atheists do NOT hate this....where do you come up with this crap.

You know that science has come up with cures to diseases that God,if in fact He existed, placed on mankind.

You understand that your God, if in fact He existed, cannot cure any diseases on earth. He has been unable to make amputees regrow limbs....ever. So much for the power of prayer.

Your God has exactly the same attributes of 'no God.'

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Divinity Surgeon wrote:
There has to be a way where everybody wins.
There is, but 3D won't allow one to see it.
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exposing INQUISITOR was no big deal. anyone with some smarts can see through her.

hacking computers is going to land her in prison, which she richly deserves

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