Prove there's a god.

Since: Jun 12

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#745151 Jun 13, 2014
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
My "assumptions" don't require close scrutiny, do they?
They are flawed and based on a made up premise of God. Namely God within time and space and subject to.
Your special plea is an attempt at bypassing scrutiny, isn't it?
You're making excuses. It is not a special plea. Yours is a proposition based on a false premise.
What Genesis presupposes proves nothing other than that Genesis presupposes something... right?
What it proves is not the point. The point being you cannot even get the theory down. Create and argue to a phantom.
There's no proof there's a god.
Again. Not the point. You cannot understand it all even in theory. That is the point. Your assumptions are based largely on ignorance.
That isn't an assumption or a presupposition.
It's an observation.
Based on a false assumption of God. Cannot even get Gen. 1:1 down. Cannot compete with the horses when the footmen run you down.
Prove me wrong.
Demonstrate your god.
You will not accept and evidence contrary to your fixed atheistic assumptions. You do not want God to exist. If you do not believe you are wrong, then you must believe you are right. If you are right then the burden of proof shifts to you since you assume an objective truth claim. The problem being you cannot prove your negative assumption (atheism) which explains nothing.
I'm betting we'll all observe the condition of 'no proof'.
Wanna take that bet?
You want me to demonstrate God to you? Do you think God responds to my demands like God on demand? God will be demonstrated. There will be no confusion. That much is a promise. I promise you, it will happen. Until then you can take false comfort in your sarcasm along with your delusions about reality.
IPSEC

Oglesby, TX

#745152 Jun 13, 2014
Anonymous from the Tubes...

Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs by explaining that a gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed, or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:

First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.

With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell, because Avogadro's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa B. during my freshman year that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then I can conclude that #2 cannot be true, and therefore Hell is exothermic.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745153 Jun 13, 2014
River Tam wrote:
<quoted text>
OK.
I've let the Chinese shit go for the most part.
It's beginning to piss me off now.
Sum Ting Wong?
Hung Lo....
Whatever.
Clean your own house before you piss in mine.
Tell it to those pet owners who almost had their pets die because of that shit.

No one's pissing in your house, and mine's already clean.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745154 Jun 13, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
Humans are not animals. I am not an animal.
Yes, you are.
Joyful8118 wrote:
Doesn't matter what you say. Still doesn't make it true.
Humans are a part of the animal kingdom. Deal with it.
Joyful8118 wrote:
God Bless.
Keep your filthy"God" to yourself

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745155 Jun 13, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
Have a wonderful and joyous night/day. May God bless you and heal your sick heart and soul.
May "God" give you an education and allow you to admit what you know is true---even though you hate it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#745156 Jun 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
Anonymous from the Tubes...
Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs by explaining that a gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed, or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell, because Avogadro's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa B. during my freshman year that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then I can conclude that #2 cannot be true, and therefore Hell is exothermic.
HEY....enough with the logic!! Religious people don't want to hear the semantics.

:o)

Cheers!

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#745158 Jun 13, 2014
IPSEC wrote:
Anonymous from the Tubes...
Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs heat)?
Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs by explaining that a gas cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed, or some variant. One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.
As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there is more than one of these religions, and since people do not belong to more than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.
With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the volume in Hell, because Avogadro's Law states that in order for the temperature and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand proportionately as souls are added.
This gives two possibilities:
1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell breaks loose.
2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell, then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.
So which is it?
If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa B. during my freshman year that, "it will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you", and take into account the fact I still have not succeeded in having sexual relations with her, then I can conclude that #2 cannot be true, and therefore Hell is exothermic.
hahaha!
IPSEC

Oglesby, TX

#745161 Jun 13, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> They are flawed and based on a made up premise of God. Namely God within time and space and subject to.
<quoted text> You're making excuses. It is not a special plea. Yours is a proposition based on a false premise.
<quoted text> What it proves is not the point. The point being you cannot even get the theory down. Create and argue to a phantom.
<quoted text> Again. Not the point. You cannot understand it all even in theory. That is the point. Your assumptions are based largely on ignorance.
<quoted text> Based on a false assumption of God. Cannot even get Gen. 1:1 down. Cannot compete with the horses when the footmen run you down.
<quoted text> You will not accept and evidence contrary to your fixed atheistic assumptions. You do not want God to exist. If you do not believe you are wrong, then you must believe you are right. If you are right then the burden of proof shifts to you since you assume an objective truth claim. The problem being you cannot prove your negative assumption (atheism) which explains nothing.
<quoted text> You want me to demonstrate God to you? Do you think God responds to my demands like God on demand? God will be demonstrated. There will be no confusion. That much is a promise. I promise you, it will happen. Until then you can take false comfort in your sarcasm along with your delusions about reality.
Your concession speech via ridiculous, empty threat has been logged.

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#745162 Jun 13, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, you are.
<quoted text>
Humans are a part of the animal kingdom. Deal with it.
<quoted text>
Keep your filthy"God" to yourself
What is your definition of "God" Kait ? you believe that life continues on after death, how so and what rules it?

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745163 Jun 13, 2014
Brand New Libertarian wrote:

Privileges are granted by the State; rights are inborn. The Constitution, for example, does not "grant" us rights, it -recognizes- them.
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
No, rights are imaginary. They were invented by people. They are provided when we invest power in a government to protect them.
Okay.

You have no right to voice your opinions, either here or anywhere else.
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
Calling them inborn serves to calm the fragile sensibilities of those who can't grasp the harsh realities of life. If we didn't have a functioning government, or one that served our interests, we wouldn't have rights either.
<quoted text>
I happen to really like China.
I agree with BNL. If you want to beleve your "rights" are granted to you by your government (which makes them mere privileges), then fine; have fun with that.

But don't tell me *I* have no rights.
ChristINSANITY is EVIL

Mississauga, Canada

#745164 Jun 13, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> They are flawed and based on a made up premise of God. Namely God within time and space and subject to.
<quoted text> You're making excuses. It is not a special plea. Yours is a proposition based on a false premise.
<quoted text> What it proves is not the point. The point being you cannot even get the theory down. Create and argue to a phantom.
<quoted text> Again. Not the point. You cannot understand it all even in theory. That is the point. Your assumptions are based largely on ignorance.
<quoted text> Based on a false assumption of God. Cannot even get Gen. 1:1 down. Cannot compete with the horses when the footmen run you down.
<quoted text> You will not accept and evidence contrary to your fixed atheistic assumptions. You do not want God to exist. If you do not believe you are wrong, then you must believe you are right. If you are right then the burden of proof shifts to you since you assume an objective truth claim. The problem being you cannot prove your negative assumption (atheism) which explains nothing.
<quoted text> You want me to demonstrate God to you? Do you think God responds to my demands like God on demand? God will be demonstrated. There will be no confusion. That much is a promise. I promise you, it will happen. Until then you can take false comfort in your sarcasm along with your delusions about reality.
YOU want to talk to atheists about delusions of Reality!?
LLLL

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#745165 Jun 13, 2014
lightbeamrider wrote:
<quoted text> You want me to demonstrate God to you? Do you think God responds to my demands like God on demand? God will be demonstrated. There will be no confusion. That much is a promise. I promise you, it will happen. Until then you can take false comfort in your sarcasm along with your delusions about reality.
How would you even attempt to demonstrate "God", considering "He" hasn't spoken to anyone in many, many, many years.

I'd be interested in how you would attempt this feat.

Please make your attempt to demonstrate "God". You can do this, right?

And please do not push this back onto me either, just because I refuse to accept your explanation. That would show me that you are actually diverting from being honest enough to say, "I don't have any way of doing this, nor do I know the mind of God and all that He could possibly do."

I'll wait for your post....thanks for responding.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745166 Jun 13, 2014
Joyful8118 wrote:
I just laugh at those who continue to post to me or about me and haven't got the picture yet that no matter what I will not respond to them.
Fine; suck on your spiritual crack pipe.
Joyful8118 wrote:
Maybe, eventually, they will figure it out. Nothing they say will matter. I know the truth. I have experienced the truth.
You know no such thing. You are deliberately lying. Why do you christians need to lie for your religion?
Joyful8118 wrote:
Nothing and no one can change that. Does that mean I am not open minded to new things. No. It just means what I know to be real and true cannot be changed,
You sound like a heroin addict.
Joyful8118 wrote:
Have a blessed day.
No such thing. Deal with it.

“What are you looking at?”

Since: Jan 08

Albuquerque, NM

#745167 Jun 13, 2014
joyful8118 wrote:
Humans are not animals. I am not an animal.

New Age writes:
Uhm......yes we are joyful.

What makes you think we are not classified within the animal category?

The word "animal" comes from the Latin word animalis, meaning "having breath".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal

Are you something other than an animal? You haven't many other choices to choose from......especially when you have to begin with a specific kingdom......
- Plants can't use the computer - so that rules you out for that kingdom
- Fungi can't use the computer - ruled out
- Bacteria can't use the computer - rules out
- Protists are single celled organism, and they can't use the computer either.

I really don't think you quite understand the basics or fundamentals of life.

http://a-z-animals.com/reference/animal-class...

Kingdom
All living organisms are first placed into different kingdoms. There are five different kingdoms to classify life on Earth, which are Animals, Plants, Fungi, Bacteria, and Protists (single-celled organisms).

Phylum
The animal kingdom is divided into 40 smaller groups, known as phylum. Here, animals are grouped by their main features. Animals usually fall into one of five different phylum which are Cnidaria (invertebrates), Chordata (vertebrates), Arthropods, Molluscs and Echinoderms.

Class
The phylum group is then divided into even smaller groups, known as classes. The Chordata (vertebrates) phylum splits up into Mammalia (Mammals), Actinopterygii (Bony Fish), Chondrichthyes (Cartilaginous Fish), Aves (Birds), Amphibia (Amphibians) and Reptilia (Reptiles).

Order
Each class is divided into small groups again, known as orders. The class Mammalia (Mammals), splits into different groups including Carnivora, Primate, Artiodactyla and Rodentia.

Family
In every order, there are different families of animals which all have very similar features. The Carnivora order breaks into families that include Felidae (Cats), Canidae (Dogs), Ursidae (Bears), and Mustelidae (Weasels).

Genus
Every animal family is then divided into small groups known as genus. Each genus contains animals that have very similar features and are closely related. For example, the Felidae (Cat) family contains genus including Felis (small Cats and domestic Cats), Panthera (Tigers, Leopards, Jaguars and Lions) and Puma (Panthers and Cougars).

Species
Each individual species within the genus is named after it's individual features and characteristics. The names of animals are in Latin so that they can be understood worldwide, and consist of two words. The first word in the name of an animal will be the genus, and the second name indicates the specific species.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745168 Jun 13, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
My apologies if I misunderstood or misrepresented you. You're da bomb with me, Rosa. I admire the hell out of you skeptical Topix women - Kaitlin, Divine Surgeon, and Sweets for starters. You girls rock!
*Oo*-rah!

;)

Since: Jun 14

Location hidden

#745169 Jun 13, 2014
feces for jesus wrote:
<quoted text>
Too bad our word Hel/hell has nothing to do with fire! The word "Hell" isn't in the bible and there is no evidence to support it's use in Catholicism or Christianity.
Hel is one of the 9 world of Yggdrassil and was a realm of COLDNESS and stillness. It is not a fiery realm of eternal torment rules by some spooky devil figure. How unfortunate that the tradition and culture of the Northern Europeans has been distorted so badly by centuries of Christianization.
Matt. 5: 22

whosoever shall say, thou fool,
shall be In danger of Hell Fire.

Matt. 10: 28

And fear not them which kill the body,
but are not able to kill the soul, but
rather fear him which is able to
destroy both soul and body In
Hell..

Luke 12 : 5

I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear,
Fear him, which after he hath killed
hath power to cast Into Hell.

The list goes on feces..

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745170 Jun 13, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct, the OT uses the same word, nephesh, to describe humans and other creatures.
Joy doesn't believe 'God's word'. That makes her a typical Christian.
Here’s an interesting something I found while reading Joseph Campell’s “The Power of Myth”:

Bill Moyers: Is the idea “Thou shalt have no other gods before me” purely a Hebraic idea?

Campbell: I’ve not found it anywhere else.

Moyers: Why only one god?

Campbell: This I do not understand. I do understand the accent on the local social deity for people who are living in a desert. Your whole commitment is to the society which is protecting you. Society is always patriarchal. Nature is always matrilineal.

Moyers: Do you think goddess religions emerged because in the domestication of the human race women played such a dominant role in the planting and harvesting activities of those early societies?

Campbell: There is no doubt about it. At that moment, the women become the most important members of the society in terms of magic power.

Moyers: It had been the man hunting—

Campbell: Yes, and now it moves over into the woman. Since her magic is that of giving birth and nourishment, as the earth does, her magic supports the magic of the earth. In the early tradition, she is the first planter. It is only later, when the plow is invented in the high culture systems, that the male takes over the agricultural lead again. And then the simulation of coitus, with the plow plowing the earth, becomes a dominant myth figure.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745171 Jun 13, 2014
Iron Balls McGentee wrote:
<quoted text> Because all things that begin to exist needs a cause. The Creator did not begin to exist. Some like you just do not want God to exist. Evolution iz boring to tears to read.
Then get an education and understand it.
Iron Balls McGentee wrote:
<quoted text> Darwin is about as exciting as Mein Kampf. Dull. That is why hardly anybody reads it.
It's a good thing that enough people *did* read Darwin.

It is impossible to know what that first cause was or how it occured. Pretend gods are no answer.

It is okay---and honest---to admit that one does not know how everything came into existence.

Catcher1

Since: Sep 10

Fremont, CA

#745172 Jun 13, 2014
Ghost Writer 2 U wrote:
<quoted text>
Nicely stated Lightbeam :)
You two are so into this hell stuff.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#745173 Jun 13, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:

<quoted text>Liar. I've been here long enough to know better than that.
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Nobody accumulates "I hate you" judgits like you do, Skanky. People seem to like you less than Hitler, you festering hemorrhoid. How does that make you feel?
LOL!!!

"Festering hemorrhoid." Nailed it!!

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