Prove there's a god.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#709220 Mar 31, 2014
Gob wrote:
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They come from the mechanisms of a mostly deterministic universe.
Ignorant and superstitious minds tend to attach meaning and agency where none is evidenced.
Winning the lottery will be a miracle for some. Recovering from cancer will be a miracle for some. Not understanding why something happens provides an opportunity for some people to believe an explanation that supports something else they believe. This illustrates the very strong need that some people have to justify beliefs born of faith. As an example, some Christians see the hand of God anywhere they can imagine it. Likewise, they see the work of Satan in just as many places. Ignorance and superstition work together, each reinforcing the other.
This stuff is really damaging.
can you explain this in a layman's terms:

"They come from the mechanisms of a mostly deterministic universe."

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#709221 Mar 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
That's what Reagan's Secretary of the Interior thought, too:
“We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand”- James Watt
Exactly. Ever hear Michele "Batshit Crazy" Bachmann talk about being in the last days? It cracks me up how she can express concern for the future when she is eagerly awaiting Armageddon. In fact, I'd say that anyone who really believes that such a thing is neigh should be deemed inherently unqualified for public office.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709222 Mar 31, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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I'm not an interior designer, I just have the "gay gene" and inherently know how to coordinate. LOL. As for the "Oh look! Shiny!" school of interior decoration, hey, why not? Maybe women find that charming. Do you notice a consistent pattern of second dates wearing sunglasses?
Is your favorite color fuchsia?

~sniggers

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#709223 Mar 31, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Why do you find it funny that dragons are real?
http://www.google.com/imgres...
Nice picture of a monitor lizard.
Dragons do not exist.

Enjoy your word games.

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#709224 Mar 31, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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If "Satan" was the legless serpent of Genesis then "Satan" can not be a legged dragon.
The Komodo Monitor Lizard is not a dragon. Dragons do not exist.
Not being a woman, you look at tubey things a wee bit differently than we do. Snakey, wormy, twisty things are all gross to most of us.

In Genesis the account was that a/the serpent was nothing but one of the many wild "beasts" of the garden, not Satan, and was cursed fro being a naughty little Loki-type creature. In the book of Revelation, Satan was called a dragon to impress upon the reader how powerful he was and the magnitude of his rage-on during what fundamentalists call the "last days".

I'm sure if you were ever being chased by a Komodo dragon it would "feel" very dragon-like, nothing like an anole. Perspective is everything when it comes to a gaping maw bearing down on you.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#709225 Mar 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Speaking of the rapture, this YouTube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =1LXuNpF6NVgXX might amuse you
It's a one minute excerpt from the HBO series "Six Feet Under." We see a truck loaded with helium filled sex dolls being delivered by two teenage boys to a porn industry awards banquet. The boys slam on their brakes releasing the blowup dolls into the air just as a priggish Christian woman drives by. Hilarity ensues.
ROTFLMAO!!!

That was awesome!

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#709226 Mar 31, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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And in the Bronze Age, they were much more rigid still!
No amount of cosmetic surgery can change the DNA evidence of gender lying inside every cell of your body.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#709227 Mar 31, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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National Geographic calls it a dragon.
http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals...
But you don't.
Who should we believe?
Panda Bears and Koala Bears aren't Bears either.

You can call a skunk a 'stink badger', it still isn't a badger.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709228 Mar 31, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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Exactly. Ever hear Michele "Batshit Crazy" Bachmann talk about being in the last days? It cracks me up how she can express concern for the future when she is eagerly awaiting Armageddon. In fact, I'd say that anyone who really believes that such a thing is neigh should be deemed inherently unqualified for public office.
Uh-huh.

More Topix Atheist! thought crimes?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#709229 Mar 31, 2014
wilderide wrote:
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I think everyone has considered suicide at some point in their lives, I know I have too. To me, I find the idea of suicide reassuring: you are never trapped in unrelenting suffering when turning it off is an option. The thing you don't want of course is to come at that impulsively. But of course nothing makes you more present than pain and suffering. It's hard to think of the future when you are so overly-focused on now. But everything passes, including pain and suffering. If you can hold on moment to moment, day to day, it's very likely that you will come through on the other side and be grateful that you held out. But I am very sorry that you are so miserable now.
Thanks!

"This too shall pass." is my daily mantra.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#709230 Mar 31, 2014
Scrooge is a Liar wrote:
Uhh, yes it is , you Hell-denying aszwipe.
Scrooge is a Liar wrote:
People who are atheists remain murderers.
Scrooge is a Liar wrote:
This is the love of a lying atheist.
You're getting all of the respect and affection that you deserve.
Gob

United States

#709231 Mar 31, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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there is nothing narcissistic when i said i believe in God because:
i noticed that when i pray, my prayers are usually answered
i experienced a real Miracle on June 30, 2011
i am telling the truth. whatever i said, it really happened to me. i am here to prove there's God.
that is the title of this thread. i did not participate in this thread to bolster my ego. no way Jesefina.
Ignorance and superstition.

People that believe in other deities tell a similar story.

Why do you suppose they believe their prayers are answered? Why do you suppose they believe they've experience miracles of their deities?

What are they all doing wrong, that you're doing right?

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#709232 Mar 31, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>..
In Genesis the account was that a/the serpent was nothing but one of the many wild "beasts" of the garden, not Satan, and was cursed fro being a naughty little Loki-type creature.....
That is what I have been trying to tell RR.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709233 Mar 31, 2014
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>Not being a woman, you look at tubey things a wee bit differently than we do. Snakey, wormy, twisty things are all gross to most of us.
In Genesis the account was that a/the serpent was nothing but one of the many wild "beasts" of the garden, not Satan, and was cursed fro being a naughty little Loki-type creature. In the book of Revelation, Satan was called a dragon to impress upon the reader how powerful he was and the magnitude of his rage-on during what fundamentalists call the "last days".
I'm sure if you were ever being chased by a Komodo dragon it would "feel" very dragon-like, nothing like an anole. Perspective is everything when it comes to a gaping maw bearing down on you.
In Genesis 3, the serpent was most definitely Satan. He was either appearing as a serpent, possessing the serpent, or deceiving Adam and Eve into believing that it was the serpent who was talking to them.

This is confirmed in Revelation 12:9 & 20:2.

I think they translated it to serpent because in Latin and greek, "drak&#333;n" translates to serpent, it signifies a large reptile, real or mythological.

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#709234 Mar 31, 2014
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text> I need a gay male bestfriend. I have no sence of style. My cousin left for Michigan and he helped me before..Now, sadly I am on my own :(
:(

One easy way to find a new one is to go to a gay bar dressed in a bad outfit and ask for advice. This is akin to being a tourist in Manhattan and asking for directions. You will soon be surrounded by a crowd. Being a good dancer and becoming somewhat familiar with Kylie Minogue songs helps too.

:)

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709235 Mar 31, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Panda Bears and Koala Bears aren't Bears either.
You can call a skunk a 'stink badger', it still isn't a badger.
The panda bear isn't a bear?

o.O

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#709236 Mar 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
You're getting all of the respect and affection that you deserve.
Far more than they deserve.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709237 Mar 31, 2014
"drak&#333;n" / "drakon"

“Credulity is not a virtue”

Since: Apr 09

San Francisco

#709238 Mar 31, 2014
Susie D wrote:
<quoted text>Have you ever lost someone? You mourn the loss on Earth. They will not be HERE with you while you age. You mourn what might have been, and you miss them. You CAN also be happy for them at the same time. It is selfish to want someone back, but it is also human. It is a cycle of grief and acceptance and that does not end with time like people say.
I understand what you are saying. To me there is no "what might have been", because there is only what happens. We must deal with out own sense of loss, but that has nothing to do with the person who died. They are not suffering. For me the hardest thing is missing the person. But I recognize that is about me and not them. One must detach from loss while honoring their memory, IMHO. But if I really believed that someone was alive and in paradise, then I'd be happy for them.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#709239 Mar 31, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
Thanks!
"This too shall pass." is my daily mantra.
People that talk about committing suicide are just trying to get attention. Why do you have to do that?

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