Prove there's a god.

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#709139 Mar 31, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> Can't Science be applied to the Bible through Archaeological means? And History by confirming cities?
Again, the burning of Atlanta does not prove the characters in GWTW were real people.

And you really don't want to hitch your horse to archeology to prove the Bible. You would fail miserably. Archeology is showing that much, if not most, of the Bible is a-historical. It appears to be more in line with Hebrew propaganda that history.

If you want to see how archeology is showing much of the early Bible to be false, see NOVA's episode "The Bible's Buried Secrets".

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/bibles-b...

“"None shall pass"”

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There

#709140 Mar 31, 2014
Ghost Writer 2 You wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. What BenAdam has said is incorrect regarding Nazareth and Luke's gospel.
Please provide proof of a town called Nazareth before 300 AD.

GO!

RiversideRedneck

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#709141 Mar 31, 2014
karl44 wrote:
God whispered in my ear he said christianity is a lie
Is that the same God you claim is nonexistent?

That nonexistent God whispered in your ear?

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#709142 Mar 31, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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Your theory would mean that because London, England exists then Harry Potter books are documentaries.
Note, there is little archeological evidence supporting a single thing in the Bible other than some place and people names. In fact the evidence often contradicts what the Bible says.
Example, "Nazareth" is not mentioned outside the Gospel of Luke until 300 years after Jesus died. It also places the writing of (the current iteration of) Luke as being written centuries after Jesus and Paul (and any 'Luke' of the time) were long dead.
Imagine a copy of the Declaration of Independence that refereed to the Lunar landining . Would you believe it was written in 1776 ?
This is quite true. For example, archeology shows that the cities of Canaan were not conquered in a rapid military campaign (Joshua). It shows the cities collapsed from internal rebellions and over a time span of centuries.

And Israeli archeologists went on a serious hunt for evidence of Moses and the Exodus. They came up empty...competely...despite the Bible telling them right where to look. Their conclusion was that Moses was a mythological figure, not historical.

And the archeological evidence is that the Israelites were never slaves in Egypt. In fact were never in Egypt as slaves or not. The evidence indicates that the Israelites were situated in Canaan as a small, poor hill tribe. With the collapse of the Canaanite civilization, the Israelites moved to fill the power vacuum.

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#709143 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Again, the burning of Atlanta does not prove the characters in GWTW were real people.....
"Sure it does! The movie prove it as well !"

I can't believe so many people are this pathetically ignorant and retarded.

RiversideRedneck

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#709144 Mar 31, 2014
BenAdam wrote:
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What were sea serpents doing in a tree ?
You sure do get some random thoughts popping in your head...

RiversideRedneck

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#709145 Mar 31, 2014
karl44 wrote:
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In your case you claim the god acts empirically
that leaves evidence, but you have supplied none,
I doubt your claims, I think you a liar.
Please tell me how I can prove my memory to you. As soon as you do that, I'll give you the evidence you seek.

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#709146 Mar 31, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> I think the wording of things would change with time as language advanced, but something like what the Hebrews were going through, I think oral tradition would have been very Important, the altering of events would have been very little and only then, because of the progression of language. they would have been saying the same thing, but in other words. I think the Importance of what was being passed down, would have been a big factor, just as our grandparents handed down stuff to us, if it wasn't Important, it would have been forgotten, not made into a fairy tale. The Israelites would have been small compared to what they were sandwiched in between, the Mesopatamia and Egyptian Dynasties. What or why would a very few just break off from them like that? The one God told Abraham to get out of Canaan, but why the concept of one God outta many?
Cf the game of Telephone.

Oral traditions are not a very effective way of passing on truth. The message always gets garbled along the way, usually very very garbled.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#709147 Mar 31, 2014
Gob wrote:
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You understand that magic is an illusion. Good for you. When an illusionist performs a trick, it appears as though something has happened that shouldn't be able to happen. Sometimes these tricks are quite impressive, leaving people completely astounded. In the olden time days, there were still lots of people that didn't know that magic was an illusion. Most of them already believed in superstition, like Christianity, so it wasn't that much of stretch to believe in supernatural magic. Now most people know better. They've seen some of the tricks explained. The whole art of illusion has changed.
Miracles are like magic illusions, in that nothing supernatural is going on. People like you just apply a supernatural explanation for various reasons.
ok, we know very well that magics are illusions performed by magicians.

so, where do Miracles come from ?

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#709148 Mar 31, 2014
Double Fine wrote:
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Nah. Best Music in the 80's came from Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Metallica and Queensrÿche. Early 90's gave rise to the most musically gifted band of all time, Dream Theater. Now that is music
Sorry, but for the most part heavy metal is not my preferred music. In the 80s I was more into groups like Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd. And of course the venerable (even at that time) Rolling Stones.

That is not to say that I don't like any heavy metal...just not the bulk of it.

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#709149 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Again, the burning of Atlanta does not prove the characters in GWTW were real people.
And you really don't want to hitch your horse to archeology to prove the Bible. You would fail miserably. Archeology is showing that much, if not most, of the Bible is a-historical. It appears to be more in line with Hebrew propaganda that history.
If you want to see how archeology is showing much of the early Bible to be false, see NOVA's episode "The Bible's Buried Secrets".
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/bibles-b...
BTW...

I have rarely seen any Christian on these pages actually watch this episode. A few have stated they started it, but almost immediately stopped when it contradicted their perceived take on history.
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#709150 Mar 31, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
thanks.

but thanks God, my ankles still look very normal. there is no swelling. just a slight pain on my left ankle. i don't feel it most of the time, especially when i am inside my studio.

btw, all of my psoriasis are healed. i have 2 types of psoriasis medications: the coal tar formula and the salicylic acid formula.

the pictures in that Wikipedia link is the worst types. my feet are still normal looking. just a slight pain sometimes. but very bearable. i don't even feel the pain most of the time.

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#709151 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Again, the burning of Atlanta does not prove the characters in GWTW were real people.
And you really don't want to hitch your horse to archeology to prove the Bible. You would fail miserably. Archeology is showing that much, if not most, of the Bible is a-historical. It appears to be more in line with Hebrew propaganda that history.
If you want to see how archeology is showing much of the early Bible to be false, see NOVA's episode "The Bible's Buried Secrets".
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/bibles-b...
I have been watching a documentary on the History Of The Bible and it is Opposite of what you're saying, it shows that most of what is in the Bible is actual. Archeology can only trace so far back and obviously not from the beginning., but from what I've seen it has proved people, places and events..I just checked, I was watching the show you are talking about. just what part is it that is disproving the Bible?
andet1987

Chicago, IL

#709152 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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My, oh, my. And a thin skin, to boot.
Clearly you want to dish it out but you can't take it.
BTW, you really Really REALLY don't want to get into a p*ss*ng match with me over academic awards. Only four? That's all you got?
i did not read a single word you posted. you are an idiot !! you are way below my level. so, from now on, keep wasting your time with your unread posts.

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#709153 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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Cf the game of Telephone.
Oral traditions are not a very effective way of passing on truth. The message always gets garbled along the way, usually very very garbled.
Our opinions on that differ, I think it depends on the Importance of what was being handed down, and obviously, that would have been very Important. I don't think it gets garbled as much as, just being worded different, meaning the same, but said in a different way as language progressed..

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#709154 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
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BTW...
I have rarely seen any Christian on these pages actually watch this episode. A few have stated they started it, but almost immediately stopped when it contradicted their perceived take on history.
I watched it thru and many other shows like it. I don't see what you're talking about by contradict, some of the time frame of certain events may not be correct, but the place and event still exist..To me, that doesn't make the Bible, a book of Lies..

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#709155 Mar 31, 2014
http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/TOCO8TE...
BenAdam wrote:
Excellent post !
Thanks, Ben. I hope that you and others find that material useful.

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#709156 Mar 31, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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You sure do get some random thoughts popping in your head...
You are the one claiming the "serpent in the tree" wasn't a snake. The only "terrestrial serpents" are snakes.

You are still a moron.

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#709157 Mar 31, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Please tell me how I can prove my memory to you. As soon as you do that, I'll give you the evidence you seek.
You can;t prove your hallucinations are real ? I am not surprised.

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#709158 Mar 31, 2014
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>
BTW...
I have rarely seen any Christian on these pages actually watch this episode. A few have stated they started it, but almost immediately stopped when it contradicted their perceived take on history.
It is called willful ignorance and denial of all evidence that contradicts what their religion taught them.

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