Prove there's a god.

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#699063 Mar 5, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Evolution is a fact, despite protests made from religious objections.
The fact of evolution has been known for over 100 years and the debate ended scientifically.
But of course we still have the religious objections to a well established mountain of evidence showing it is not only the fact, but the reality.
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Who the hell ever said mankind evolved from rats??
You really *are* a xtian.
It was a figure of speech, but IF we did evolve it would've had to of been after the dinosaur extinction, which I would think nothing survived but ground burrowing animals, so... Take your pick!
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#699064 Mar 5, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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No scientific data supports it. Not one piece of information known to man proves otherwise.
You lose again.
Every thing supports the reality of god
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#699065 Mar 5, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Do you mean why *weren't* they mentioned?
Because they were only females. Inconsequential, aside from bearing children.
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You asked who Cain's wife was.
Sorry that you don't like the answer,
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He never did answer that. He pretended he did, but he never really answered.
His sister

Who was eve?

Made from him, Adam.
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#699066 Mar 5, 2014
scaritual wrote:
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The character didn't fulfill Judaic prophetic requirements.
For example
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#699067 Mar 5, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
ChristineM wrote:
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Demonstrated what?
Because you stamp you foot and spout ignorance does not mean you have demonstrated anything other than your ignorance of atheism.
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Unquestioning belief in an invisible, omniscient skydaddy is a no-brainer. No intellect required at all.
No proof.
tricki

Douglassville, PA

#699068 Mar 5, 2014
Al Garcia wrote:
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Yet you display no compassion of any kind. Are abusive in your words, and have contempt towards anyone that thinks or believes differently than you do.
You my wretched friend may very well be a more of a menace to socisty than the supposed Christian threat that you so obviously and verbally fear here on this international forum.
Get help. Now.
Have you found a job amalgamated? Ask witch. She works. Maybe she can help. Or Christine. Do you have a record? There are agencies set up just for you girls.

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699069 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
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PARADISE BABY
NOT YOU
You HOPE. You IMAGINE. You have FAITH.

You will be so disappointed, specially since you have you hopes up and all.

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699070 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
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For example
The messiah was supposed to be the one who ran the Romans out of Jerusalem. Epic fail.

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699071 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
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His sister
Who was eve?
Made from him, Adam.
And she already had her own country, the land of Nod, and there were all these other hoards of people who were supposed not to kill him because of that mark god put on him?

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699072 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
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Every thing supports the reality of god
NOTHING supports the reality of god.

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699073 Mar 5, 2014
scottyscouty wrote:
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If everything is a hierarchal organization or pyramid..there always someone at the top..on both sides.
Picture a tree with one trunk and the big branches which host lots of smaller branches and finally the twigs and leaves. An upside down pyramid.

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#699074 Mar 5, 2014
Scrooge wrote:
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Although there's no disputing that you have the intellectual capacity of a mentally retarded child, you're not actually a child. As such, you deserve contempt and ridicule not compassion for your self-degrading Christian cultist lifestyle.
Your Dark Ages cult has become the most divisive political force in our country's history in flagrant violation of the First Amendment. Projection is an instinctive defense mechanism for ignorant cowardly godbots like you. You're certifiably insane and should be institutionalized immediately, punk.
Come on Scrooge, lay off Al. He is a good guy, just a little deluded, but yet is a good guy. Not like most of these scream in your face Christians.

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#699075 Mar 5, 2014
sweets2360 wrote:
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And she already had her own country, the land of Nod, and there were all these other hoards of people who were supposed not to kill him because of that mark god put on him?
Isn't Nod, the land of wandering? Wasn't Cain the founder of the Canaanites? One of the peoples God commanded to be wiped out?

“The Bible is no science book”

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#699076 Mar 5, 2014
andet1987 wrote:
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well, then take a good look at the video I sent you. how come the boy got well ? fantasy ? no way Josefina. it is a reality.
how come a very small chapel in my country in Asia became a huge cathedral since many foreigners got healed when they visited that chapel? a lot of foreigners contributed lots of money to make that little chapel into a huge cathedral. how come ?
there is nothing fantasy about God's healing power TheWordOfMe.
The number one test of healing is.......Did one amputee get a limb to regrow?.....Other illnesses can be temporarily healed through your own mind and belief. Most people healed by people like Benny Hinn and others, will have a recurrence of all those symptoms after going home. Its amazing what a shot of adrenalin can do for pain and suffering.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

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#699077 Mar 5, 2014
scaritual wrote:
The character didn't fulfill Judaic prophetic requirements.
tricki wrote:
For example
Let the Jews tell you about the messiah themselves. After all, it's their messiah. From "Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus" http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/je...

"Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God ...We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection."

Obviously, such a time has never come, certainly not in Jesus' time.

The messiah, the Jews were told, would be a human being called Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14), not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being, and not called Jesus.

He would be a king and a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5), a great military leader who would win battles for Israel, and a great judge who would make righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15).

Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1 tells us that the messiah will establish the center of all world government - both for Jews and gentiles - in Israel. Ezekiel 37:26-28 also prophesied that the messiah would establish The Third Temple or Sanctuary of the "Lord." Isaiah 43:5-6 says that he (not NATO) would triumphantly gather the Jews back to Israel.

Zechariah 14:9 said that "God will be King over all the world, on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One." In Isaiah 2:4, the Jews were told that "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore" when the messiah comes.

Once again, that time has never come.

In summary, Jesus was never the king of Israel nor a great military leader, is not known to be a descendent of David, contradicted the Torah, wasn't named Immanuel, and did not achieve perfection on earth as described above during his lifetime.

Furthermore, the Jews reject polytheism / trinitarianism and the idea of god as man, They reject Christian claims that the messiah would be born of a virgin, executed as a criminal, be a suffering servant, or return after death. The Jewish messiah is triumphant, not a spat upon whipping boy.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#699078 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
Nothing presented here proves God isn't. Just the opposite. Of all the posts ever presented here, not one proves God is not
And no one in 4000 years (or longer depending on which god you select) has ever proved any gods exist

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#699079 Mar 5, 2014
pusherman_ wrote:
<quoted text> At exactly the right time for what? what about the lack of them around the globe?
Not around the globe however glaciation causes a cooling in global temperature, less convivial for both temperate and tropical animals. This means both a reduction in animals and a shifting of habitat which in turn means different and/or less animals to leave fossils. I do not understand you logic in denying logic.

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#699080 Mar 5, 2014
tricki wrote:
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For example
Within Judaism. The Judaic deity is defined as one complete and singular entity(within that mythology, if that means anything). It's very clear in the OT/Tanakh, that there is no plurality of the deity in any way. Read Deut. 6:4. There are many other examples besides that one.

When you get to the prophecies concerning the "Messiah", or, "Mashiach", take notice there are no half man/half god qualities assigned to that person. Below are some of the verses that are specific to what the Judaic "Messiah" was to be and do.

Ezekiel 38:16) Isaiah 2, 11, 42; 59:20) Jeremiah 23, 30, 33; 48:47; 49:39) Daniel 10:14) Hosea 3:4-3:5) Micah 4) Zephaniah 3:9) Zechariah 14:9) Those verses represent what that Mashiach would do. All signs of the Messiah.

Which is why the Jews rejected the Jesus. It didn't happen. The fact that the Jesus was killed before complete fulfillment of messianic prophecy is a proof in and of itself the Jesus was a false "Messiah".

According to the mythology the "Mashiach" was 100% human and mortal. Judaism says that the Messiah will be born of human parents(maternal&paternal) , and possess normal physical attributes like other people. It will not be a demi-god, and will not possess supernatural qualities.

All of the tasks to be done by "Messiah" were to be completed during the lifetime of that person. Once revealed. While here. First time. One time. Only time. There was no "second coming" involved according to OT messianic prophecy.

Christians cite other portions of the OT with tortured, massaged and tweaked interpretations as Messianic prophecies. Just because Christianity claims this as prophecy doesn't make them OT Messianic prophecies. No matter how vehemently Christians may claim them to be.

Jews are the experts concerning their book. There is a reason the Jesus wasn't accepted as Messiah, and it wasn't because the Jews were being stubborn. If the Jesus had met the prophetic requirements the Jews would have had no choice but to accept the Jesus. Judaism is very clear about this.

They must recognize fulfilled prophecy. This is also why their "god" was very specific. Unless a prophecy is 100% fulfilled, it is a false prophecy, or made by a false prophet. The Jesus was both.

A false messiah(did not fulfill prophecy as described), and a false prophet.

"But the prophet who shall speak a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he shall speak in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die. And you may say in your heart,“How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?”...

...When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him (Deuteronomy 18:20-22).

^^^The^^^Jesus^^^fails^^^accor ding^^^to^^^that^^^. Matthew, chapter 24, evidences this quite well.

The Jesus was rejected as the messiah for legitimate reason. Deuteronomy 13:1-5, also illustrates why the Jesus wasn't "Messiah". There are numerous examples that spell out plainly that the, "Messiah", or Mashiach, was not to alter the Judaic religion in any way, not for Jews, nor Gentiles.

The oldest extant Judaic texts date to about 200 BCE, so there was no revision or altering done to those prophecies at least after that date.

That negates any claims of revisionism.

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#699081 Mar 5, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Let the Jews tell you about the messiah themselves. After all, it's their messiah. From "Why Don’t Jews Believe In Jesus" http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/je...
"Where does the Jewish concept of Messiah come from? One of the central themes of Biblical prophecy is the promise of a future age of perfection characterized by universal peace and recognition of God ...We will recognize the Messiah by seeing who the King of Israel is at the time of complete universal perfection."
Obviously, such a time has never come, certainly not in Jesus' time.
The messiah, the Jews were told, would be a human being called Immanuel (Isaiah 7:14), not a god, demi-god or other supernatural being, and not called Jesus.
He would be a king and a great political leader descended from King David (Jeremiah 23:5), a great military leader who would win battles for Israel, and a great judge who would make righteous decisions (Jeremiah 33:15).
Isaiah 2:2-4; 11:10; 42:1 tells us that the messiah will establish the center of all world government - both for Jews and gentiles - in Israel. Ezekiel 37:26-28 also prophesied that the messiah would establish The Third Temple or Sanctuary of the "Lord." Isaiah 43:5-6 says that he (not NATO) would triumphantly gather the Jews back to Israel.
Zechariah 14:9 said that "God will be King over all the world, on that day, God will be One and His Name will be One." In Isaiah 2:4, the Jews were told that "Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall man learn war anymore" when the messiah comes.
Once again, that time has never come.
In summary, Jesus was never the king of Israel nor a great military leader, is not known to be a descendent of David, contradicted the Torah, wasn't named Immanuel, and did not achieve perfection on earth as described above during his lifetime.
Furthermore, the Jews reject polytheism / trinitarianism and the idea of god as man, They reject Christian claims that the messiah would be born of a virgin, executed as a criminal, be a suffering servant, or return after death. The Jewish messiah is triumphant, not a spat upon whipping boy.
HaHaHa!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immanuel

Jesus tells the Pharisees.. The very pages that you find life in, Speak of Me

He is claiming to be the fulfiller of prophecy, which i know a claim doesn't make it so.

The High Priest that sprinkles the blood on the Ark Of The Covenant chanted while doing that, do you know what he was saying?

“When you treat people as they ”

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#699082 Mar 5, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Actually it doesn't mean that either, what it means is that evolution drives changes in in the physiology of animals. It's thought dark skin evolved from a lighter skin when the hominids lost body hair and moved from the forest to the savanna's . But we don't know for certain we only know the characteristics of human skin subjected to climatic changes.
One thing that we see that is confusing about skin and hair pigments is the bear.
While polar bears are white, they have black skin, and black bears ...have white skin.
I do know all but the lightest complexions will darken from exposure from the sun.
Yes, and environment is what drives that change

As far as the human is concerned how far do we need to go back 0.2 (or so) million years skin was dark as an environmental response to the southern African sun on a “relatively” hairless body. Humanity arose from these begins as is shown with Mitochondrial Eve and Y Adam

Go back further, 3 million year old Australopithecus and you are moving back to lightly pigmented skin

Where does human evolution begin?

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