Prove there's a god.

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#687069 Jan 19, 2014
Al Garcia wrote:
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Ahahahahahahhaaaaaahhaa!!!!! A linebacker?????? ahhahahahhhahhahhahhaaahahhah
wait, wait....... ahhahhahahhahhahhahhahhahhahha aaaaaa......
ok, ok hahahahhahahh ...... On an anonymous site like Topix, one pretend to be rich, good looking, a guy, a girl.........such a shame that you chose to be stupid..... aaaaahhahahahhahhahhaa!!!!!
Thanks for the laugh....I like you. People say I've got no taste, but I like you
I always love it when Christians show us how the Holy Spook guides them in the godly way to behave. Always! Thanks Al, that was very enlightening about the nature of the Holy Spook.

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#687070 Jan 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Nice call.
To filter out gay candidates, Tuell proposed a seven-word requirement: "Fidelity in marriage and celibacy in singleness."
The phrase, which was added to church policy guidelines, "had the advantage of not singling out homosexual persons but being generic, applying to all candidates regardless of sexual orientation," Tuell said in his sermon.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/...
Jesus was gay.

“"None shall pass"”

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#687071 Jan 19, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> Outta all them verses that they posted, 1 summed it up, where your treasure lies, so does your heart!
Yup. Pretty simple.

"Cherish the things that can not be bought and you will be a wealthy man." - ME 10:43

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#687072 Jan 19, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Besides hundreds of singular contradictions, the Bible has several instances in which contradictory statements appear in blocks or groups of anywhere from 10 to 25. The numerous problems associated with the Resurrection show this quite well (See: BE #2).
Funny how the first part of that didn't get posted: I was replying to RR and I posted something Dennis wrote back in 1983: here it is:

If there is any area in which the Bible's imperfections and errancy is most apparent, it is that of inconsistencies and contradictions. The book is a veritable miasma of contradictory assertions and obvious disagreements, which is to be expected in any writing formulated over approximately 1,500 years by 40 or 50 different writers, few of whom seemed to be precisely concerned with what the others had penned. Moreover, the highly repetitive nature of the Bible accounts for many of the conflicts. It would have been far better for those attempting to defend the Book if, for example Deuteronomy had not repeated so much of Exodus, Chronicles had not repeated so much of Samuel and Kings, and the gospels had not been so repetitious. But they do repeat and, thus, problems exist. Yet, despite all historical, mathematical, ethical, philosophical, geographical, and chronological difficulties contained therein, some die-hard fundamentalists carry their hopelessly doomed resistance to the bitter end. As incredible as it may seem, there are some individuals who still say, "The Bible is perfect and inerrant. There are no inaccuracies." So, for the benefit of these holdouts, I am going to provide a list of some simple, straight-forward problems that even some well-known spokesmen for the fundamentalist position grudgingly concede:

•(a) David took seven hundred (2 Sam. 8:4), seven thousand (1 Chron. 18:4) horsemen from Hadadezer;
•(b) Ahaziah was 22 (2 Kings 8:26), 42 (2 Chron. 22:2) years old when he began to reign;
•(c) Jehoiachin was 18 (2 Kings 24:8), 8 (2 Chron. 36:9) years old when he began to reign and he reigned 3 months (2 Kings 24:8), 3 months and10 days (2 Chron. 36:9);
•(d) There were in Israel 8000,000 (2 Sam. 24:9); 1,1000,000 (1 Chron. 21:5) men that drew the sword and there were 500,000 (2 Sam. 24:9), 470,000 (1 Chron. 21:5) men that drew the sword in Judah;
•(e) There were 550 (1 Kings 9:23), 250 (2 Chron. 8:10) chiefs of the officers that bare the rule over the people;
•(f) Saul's daughter, Michal, had no sons (2 Sam. 6:23), had 5 sons (2 Sam. 21:6) during her lifetime;
•(g) Lot was Abraham's nephew (Gen. 14:12), brother (Gen. 14:14);
•(h) Joseph was sold into Egypt by Midianites (Gen. 37:36), by Ishmaelites (Gen. 39:1);
•(i) Saul was killed by his own hands (1 Sam. 31:4), by a young Amalekite (2 Sam. 1:10), by the Philistines (2 Sam. 21:12);
•(j) Solomon made of a molten sea which contained 2,000 (1 Kings 7:26), 3,000 (2 Chron. 4:5) baths;
•(k) The workers on the Temple had 3,300 (1 Kings 5:16), 3,600 (2 Chron. 2:18) overseers;
•(l) The earth does (Eccle. 1:4), does not (2 Peter 3:10) abideth forever;
•(m) If Jesus bears witness of himself his witness is true (John 8:14), is not true (John 5:31);
•(n) Josiah died at Megiddo (2 Kings 23:29-30), at Jerusalem (2 Chron. 35:24);
•(o) Jesus led Peter, James, and John up a high mountain after six (Matt. 17:1, Mark 9:2), eight (Luke 9:28) days;
•(p) Nebuzaradan came unto Jerusalem on the seventh (2 Kings 25:8), tenth (Jer. 52:12) day of the fifth month.

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#687073 Jan 19, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> I think your right! I think life always existed, just not here, it's the beginning of life and wtf it's doing here and how people think they know is what gets me! I have no clue about science/religion or anything really, but i am curious and do like askn questions, to just think that it came outta a big bowl of soup of gases or whatever just don't make sense to me, but thats not sayn that GOD does either! either he is or he isn't, everyone wants to know the answer, no one has it, not even science! so yeah, it lyes withn ones self and belief/non belief!
Well we have a choice to make. We can believe what we have from evidence, or we can go with what Christians want to tell us which is all hearsay.

I object to people who "inform me" about things they know nothing about. Like Christians informing me about this God they invented. There is no God. If such a thing as God existed and the Bible told us about him we'd be up Shit Creek with out a paddle.

THE GOD WHO SAYS 'DO NOT KILL', KILLS REPEATEDLY:

"there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the 250 men that offered incense" (Num. 16:35).

"the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died" (Num. 21:6).

"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound and I heal...." (Deut. 32:39).

"The Lord smote the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people 50,070 men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter" (1 Sam. 6:19).

"The Lord kills, and makes alive: he brings down to the grave, and brings up" (1 Sam. 2:6).

"the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them...." (1 Sam. 5:6).

"it came to pass about 10 days after, that the Lord smote Nabal, that he died" (1 Sam. 25:38).

"Who smote great nations and slew mighty kings...." (Psalms 135:10).

"For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many" (Isaiah 66:16).

"I will dash them one against another, even the father and the sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them" (Jer. 13:14).

"I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword...." (Amos 4:10).

"For our God is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29).

Also note: Gen. 38:7,10, Ex. 22:23-24, Num. 11:1, Deut. 32:41-42, Joshua 10:10-11, 1 Sam. 5:9, Psalms 136:17-18, Hosea 9:16, Amos 2:3, Ex. 4:24, 2 Sam. 6:6-7, and 2 Kings 5:7.

Why would anyone say, yes sir, that's my God!!!

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#687074 Jan 19, 2014
Why would any one claim that the Bible tells us about God?

THE GOD WHO SAYS 'DO NOT KILL' ORDERS KILLING:

"ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put 10,000 to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword" (Lev. 26:7-8).

"the Lord said to Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel. And Moses said to the judges of Israel. Slay every one his men that were joined to Baal" (Num. 25:4-5).

"Vex the Midianites and smite them" (Num. 25:17).

"But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breathes. But thou shalt utterly destroy them...as the Lord thy God has commanded thee" (Deut. 20:16-17).

"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills...he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded" (Joshua 10:40).

"As I listened, god said to the others,'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).

"And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18).

"Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21).

"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3).

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#687075 Jan 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Hey, look at that.
karl has finally admitted that he believes God doesn't exist instead of asserting that God doesn't exist.
Good job, karl. We'll make a regular guy out of you yet.
The real question here RR, is why do you believe there is such a thing as God?

Why would you tell us the Bible tells us about God when it says the following about God?:

GOD SPREADS DUNG ON FACES: "Behold I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts...." (Mal. 2:3).

Is that really a God you want your kids to love and trust?

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#687076 Jan 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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That's why you're afraid of people like me.
Boo
People are wise to be afraid of authoritarians. Just look at what the authoritarian criminals have been doing in Washington for the last 100 years: destroying our Republic and replacing it with socialism via the salami treatment.

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#687077 Jan 19, 2014
Scrooge wrote:
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You're living proof that Christianity is mental retardation by choice, porta potty mouth with shit for brains.
Why not ask "destroy atheism" AKA Moron for Christ, if anyone has ever seen God's face?

John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."

Versus

Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."

No matter what he answers there is another verse that says he is wrong.

And how can we trust the Bible with huge problems like this one? Yes the Christians show us they are stupid but so does the Bible show us they are stupid.

I love it when people quote the god-damned thing.

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#687078 Jan 19, 2014
Scrooge wrote:
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100% pure projection again. Over 90% of the world's scientists are atheists. Scientific knowledge and common sense are the leading cures for religious addiction. Unfortunately, you're a f*cking moron, death-denying coward and sociopathic punk, Al Garcia!
Tells us again what you think of Al Garcia. Once is not enough.

PS. I don't hate you Al, I just can't respect you when you ignore the biblical contradictions I post and continue on like I didn't post them.

Why can't you just say: Yes! The Bible contains so many errors that we really can't trust it.

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#687079 Jan 19, 2014
Al Garcia wrote:
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No..... not linebackers........just you.....
Since you call people stupid Al, I am sure you will not mind being called stupid.

Genesis 9:21 (Noah "drank of the wine, and was drunken")
versus
Genesis 6:9 ("Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations").

Therefore, Noah was a perfect drunk. Why did he deserve to be on the ark?

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#687080 Jan 19, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Porter is of no use, except as a luggage lifter for funny-mentalists.
Why is it that God always selects the mentally ill to represent him?

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#687081 Jan 19, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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God.
The only deity that we call "God".
I can't tell you how many drunks I have seen hugging the toilet who said, "Oh God, oh God, oh God" As far as I can tell, they were calling their toilets God. So what do we do with God? We shit our brains out in him, we pee on him and we get sick on him.

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#687083 Jan 19, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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Yeah probably, re-education camps the fundie way.
Actually that Porter seems so nutty I'm sure he would love to bring back the stake.
Christians are proud of the days when they could get away with burning us alive at the stake. Our screams helped prepare them for the day when they would be in heaven looking down at us suffering in the old "lake o' fire". Only a Christian could never tire of watching people suffer for eternity.

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#687084 Jan 19, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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And Jesus loves you. Everybody else thinks you're a complete idiot.
Good one! Jesus also loves all the little children of the world, that is why 30,000 of them are going to die horrible deaths tonight from disease and starvation.

Can you imagine if Jesus hated them?

“"None shall pass"”

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#687085 Jan 19, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Why is it that God always selects the mentally ill to represent him?
Because "Bible God" is a sociopath that only the feeble minded would worship.

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#687086 Jan 19, 2014
destroy atheism wrote:
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Your weak willed atheism is the cause of yet another school shooting yesterday in Philadelphia. If these kids were still reading the Bible in school, allowed to have prayer in school, had been raised in a Christian home with Christian parents instead of being brought up by slimy atheists, and could talk as much about God as they like, these horrific crimes of atheism wouldn't be on the news every day.
You are the problem, not the solution.
Only Christianity will relieve our world of the misery we are experiencing.
It is gutless cowards like you that know there is a God yet reject Him that have screwed up the world.
thanks for the offer

I am strait
henry

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#687087 Jan 19, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Well we have a choice to make. We can believe what we have from evidence, or we can go with what Christians want to tell us which is all hearsay.
I object to people who "inform me" about things they know nothing about. Like Christians informing me about this God they invented. There is no God. If such a thing as God existed and the Bible told us about him we'd be up Shit Creek with out a paddle.
THE GOD WHO SAYS 'DO NOT KILL', KILLS REPEATEDLY:
"there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the 250 men that offered incense" (Num. 16:35).
"the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died" (Num. 21:6).
"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound and I heal...." (Deut. 32:39).
"The Lord smote the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people 50,070 men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter" (1 Sam. 6:19).
"The Lord kills, and makes alive: he brings down to the grave, and brings up" (1 Sam. 2:6).
"the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them...." (1 Sam. 5:6).
"it came to pass about 10 days after, that the Lord smote Nabal, that he died" (1 Sam. 25:38).
"Who smote great nations and slew mighty kings...." (Psalms 135:10).
"For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many" (Isaiah 66:16).
"I will dash them one against another, even the father and the sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them" (Jer. 13:14).
"I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword...." (Amos 4:10).
"For our God is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29).
Also note: Gen. 38:7,10, Ex. 22:23-24, Num. 11:1, Deut. 32:41-42, Joshua 10:10-11, 1 Sam. 5:9, Psalms 136:17-18, Hosea 9:16, Amos 2:3, Ex. 4:24, 2 Sam. 6:6-7, and 2 Kings 5:7.
Why would anyone say, yes sir, that's my God!!!
Never such a Thing like any god at all

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#687088 Jan 19, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Oh, come on, guys! Admit it, this is some funny stuff.
Yeah, it was. Sorry I didn't give it the attention it deserved but what can I say, there is more going on in here than I can keep up with.
henry

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#687089 Jan 19, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
Besides hundreds of singular contradictions, the Bible has several instances in which contradictory statements appear in blocks or groups of anywhere from 10 to 25. The numerous problems associated with the Resurrection show this quite well (See: BE #2). Probably the most blatant example concerns the listings in Ezra 2 and Nehemiah 7 of the family units of the returning exiles. There are about 33 units that appear in both lists, starting with the children of Parosh. Fourteen of these units disagree, as can be seen by simply reading down the lists and comparing the numbers. Moreover, Biblical writers often had difficulty in adding figures, and this instance is no exception. Ezra 2:64 says the whole congregation together was 42, 360, whereas, one need only add the figures to see that it is actually 29,818. Neh. 7:66 says the total number of returnees was 42,360, whereas, the actual number of people listed in Nehemiah 7 is 31,089.
The bible is full of lies, fakes, Errors and disaggreements.

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