Prove there's a god.

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#686348 Jan 16, 2014
Greens - tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
I will change your word "life" for the word "energy".
And , if energy did not come from non-energy then the only choice left is that energy has always been.
indeed
and now you know

the universe has always existed

“e pluribus unum”

Since: Dec 10

primus inter pares

#686349 Jan 16, 2014
Al Garcia wrote:
<quoted text>
No Aura, It's not denial. When he is quoted as saying:
"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter"
yes.... he said that, he really did, that's not up for debate.
he is also quoted as saying:
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of thing."The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
so which of the two did he lie about Aura?

Ideology vs ideology , you must read what he was really saying.
His transition was a desperate ploy to consolidate power behind his regime.

The Nazi viewpoint on religion

The Nazis believed in Constructive Christianity and freedom for every religious denomination (group). But in reality, the Nazis saw the Church and Christianity as a threat to their policies. One-third of Germans were Catholics and two-thirds were Protestants. At the beginning they cooperated with the Nazis. They believed that the new government protected them from communism and maintained traditional morals and family values.
Links with the Catholic and Protestant Churches

Hitler signed a concordat with the Pope in 1933. He promised full religious freedom for the Church and the Pope promised that he wouldn’t interfere in political matters.

Then, the Nazis started to close Catholic churches. Many monasteries were shut down and the Catholic Youth Organisation was abolished (remember that the Nazis had created the Hitler Youth Movement).

The Pope protested by issuing a letter in 1937, which was to be read in every Catholic Church. This didn’t have any impact at all.

Around 400 priests were arrested and sent to the Dachau concentration camp.
The National Reich Church

There were 28 Protestant groups in Germany, and they were merged to form the National Reich Church in 1936. A member of the Nazi party was elected Bishop of the Church. Non-Aryan ministers were suspended.

Church members called themselves German Christians, with ""the Swastika on their chest and the Cross in their heart.""

http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/his...
Greens - Tuf

Kurnell, Australia

#686350 Jan 16, 2014
karl44 wrote:
<quoted text>
indeed
and now you know
the universe has always existed
You are incorrect.
But hang around , you might learn something.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#686351 Jan 16, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> If evolution is an continuous process, why do some animals go extinct? Don't say, only the strong survive or blah, blah, blah, cause some of the most fierce hunters on the planet have went the way of the saber tooth tiger! I don't really think it evolves as much as it adapts, look at the different types of sparrows for example, some have long beaks, some short, some different colors but they all have 1 thang in common.. they're all still sparrows, they just adapted differently to their surroundings! A rose, is a rose, is a rose!!
Pardon me for just a second….

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHA!

Oh man….do carry on...

Since: Nov 13

Location hidden

#686352 Jan 16, 2014
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
I love this post.
There is something in this post you have said that is very intriguing.
Give me a minute to digest it and I will explain.:)
Goodnight! I will look to your reply tomorrow, okay? ;-)

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#686353 Jan 16, 2014
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Ideology vs ideology , you must read what he was really saying.
His transition was a desperate ploy to consolidate power behind his regime.
The Nazi viewpoint on religion
The Nazis believed in Constructive Christianity and freedom for every religious denomination (group). But in reality, the Nazis saw the Church and Christianity as a threat to their policies. One-third of Germans were Catholics and two-thirds were Protestants. At the beginning they cooperated with the Nazis. They believed that the new government protected them from communism and maintained traditional morals and family values.
Links with the Catholic and Protestant Churches
Hitler signed a concordat with the Pope in 1933. He promised full religious freedom for the Church and the Pope promised that he wouldn’t interfere in political matters.
Then, the Nazis started to close Catholic churches. Many monasteries were shut down and the Catholic Youth Organisation was abolished (remember that the Nazis had created the Hitler Youth Movement).
The Pope protested by issuing a letter in 1937, which was to be read in every Catholic Church. This didn’t have any impact at all.
Around 400 priests were arrested and sent to the Dachau concentration camp.
The National Reich Church
There were 28 Protestant groups in Germany, and they were merged to form the National Reich Church in 1936. A member of the Nazi party was elected Bishop of the Church. Non-Aryan ministers were suspended.
Church members called themselves German Christians, with ""the Swastika on their chest and the Cross in their heart.""
http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/his...
Hitler just wanted the power and craftfully promised what they ( the churches) wanted to hear and then when he was powerful enough told them to pound sound.

Sounds like a politician to me

“I never claimed to be Perfect”

Since: Nov 10

just better than yesterday

#686354 Jan 16, 2014
*sand

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#686355 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
In my post, the one here that you replied to, the one where you deleted all the numbers, explained it to you.
Christianity is dropping in some countries, yes. But on a worldwide scale it's on the rise.
Where are the polls you are getting your info about the rise of Christianity?
Greens - Tuf

Sydney, Australia

#686356 Jan 16, 2014
Six_Of_One wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, and the same can be said about matter and time.
A third option could be than none of these things actual exist at all... but that is a philosophy test.
.
Of course with respect to time I believe I have read where physists believe that time has an imaginary component (similar to how complex numbers). When there is no matter in the universe then the 'real' component of time is zero, and when there is matter in the universe the imaginary component of time is zero.
.
Since we measure time in the real component only, time = 0 would be the moment matter appeared in the iniverse. So maybe time has always been here but only when considering both the real and imaginary components.
.
Pretty cool stuff to think about!

"When there is no matter in the Universe than the "real" component of time is zero, and when there is matter in the Universe the imaginary component of time is zero."

First and foremost, matter is not a fundamental property of the Universe. It is the form not the substance that shapes matter.
So there never really is " matter" in the Universe, only the illusion. So this means that the "real" component of time is also an illusion.
So I agree with you when you say " time has always been here but only when considering both the real and imaginary components."


Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686357 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
All the evidence we have today tells us that life cannot come from non-life.
All the evidence we have today tells us that you're wrong.
You have not seen all the evidence we have today. You wouldn't let yourself see it.
Greens - Tuf

Sydney, Australia

#686358 Jan 16, 2014
Six_Of_One wrote:
<quoted text>
Goodnight! I will look to your reply tomorrow, okay? ;-)
What !!!!
I'm just firing up.

Alrighty than.
Sleep tight.
:)

“Spelin 'n' tpyin...”

Since: Feb 08

...are my strong suits!

#686359 Jan 16, 2014
Greens - Tuf wrote:
<quoted text>
I love this post.
There is something in this post you have said that is very intriguing.
Give me a minute to digest it and I will explain.:)
It was a nice post.

Plotting it on a graph...

If distance through space-time is represented by the x axis, and time by the corresponding y axis (duration)... then, on the grand scale of things, any plot representing travel through space-time, for things with mass, almost parallels the y axis. There is very little deflection (x plot) from a straight and vertical line, yet it's never exactly vertical (asymptotic limits)...'cuz things do travel through space, just very little when the cosmos is taken as a "whole" (along with the maximum theoretical speed).

The more something plots along the x axis (moves thru space faster), the less it plots along the y axis (time dilation). The faster something travels through space, the less time it experiences (subjectively).

If something attains a speed very near c, its plot moves almost exclusively along the x axis (through space). The object is subject to extreme time dilation and the plot is very near parallel to x with very little y deflection.

For things with mass, the plot can never be exactly vertical or exactly horizontal... it's always somewhere in between.

I think I said that right.

Shoulda drew it first.

~Special Relativity~

(then there's black holes; general relativity)

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#686360 Jan 16, 2014
"#1 Nearly one-fifth of all U.S. adults have no religious affiliation whatsoever. Back in 1972, only 7 percent of all U.S. adults had no religious affiliation.

#2 The number of Americans with no religious affiliation has grown by 25 percent over the past five years.

#3 The younger you are the more likely you are not to be affiliated with a religion. 9 percent of all U.S. adults that are 65 or older have no religious affiliation, but a whopping 32 percent of all U.S. adults under the age of 30 have no religious affiliation.

#4 88 percent of those that are religiously unaffiliated “are not looking for religion”.

#5 73 percent of the religiously unaffiliated support gay marriage and 72 percent of the religiously unaffiliated support legalized abortion.

#6 The religiously unaffiliated now make up 24 percent of all registered voters “who are Democrats or lean Democratic”.

#7 For the first time ever, Protestants do not make up a majority of the U.S. population. In 2007, Protestants made up 53 percent of the U.S. population, but now they only make up 48 percent of the U.S. population. Way back in 1972, Protestants made up 62 percent of the U.S. population.

#8 29 percent of all U.S. adults “seldom or never attend religious services”.

#9 51 percent of all U.S. adults believe that churches and other religious organizations “are too concerned with money and power”.

#10 66 percent of all U.S. adults believe that religion is “losing its influence on American life”.

Here are some more numbers which show that Christianity is declining in America….

#11 According to the U.S. Census Bureau, the number of Americans with “no religion” more than doubled between 1990 and 2008.

#12 According to the American Religious Identification Survey, only 76 percent of all Americans identified themselves as “Christian” of one type or another in 2008. Back in 1990, 86 percent of all Americans identified themselves as “Christian” of one type or another.

#13 A study conducted by the Barna Group discovered that nearly 60 percent of all Christians in the 15 to 29 year old age bracket are no longer actively involved in any church.

#14 As I have written about previously, Islam is now the fastest growing religion in America according to the latest U.S. Religion Census. Between 2000 and 2010, the number of Muslims living inside the United States increased by approximately 1 million to a total of 2.6 million.

#15 According to a professor of Islamic Studies at the University of Kentucky, there were approximately 1,200 mosques in the United States back in the year 2000. Now there are more than 2,100.

#16 It is being projected that the percentage of Americans attending church in 2050 will be about half of what it is today.

#17 One survey conducted a while back found that 52 percent of all American Christians believe that “at least some non-Christian faiths can lead to eternal life”.

#18 According to a study done by LifeWay Research, membership in Southern Baptist churches will fall by close to 50 percent by the year 2050 if current trends continue.

#19 LifeWay Research has also found that 46 percent of all Americans never even think about whether they will go to heaven or not."

http://thetruthwins.com/archives/19-numbers-w...

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686361 Jan 16, 2014
Scrooge wrote:
Science is based on observations and experiments not hope and faith.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Has science observed and experimented on God?
Nope.
You're basing your opinion on nothing. On zero evidence.
Yet you do that all the time.

Funny, that.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686362 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong. Christianity is on the rise.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_popu...
http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/biblestudyan...
See what I just did there? I posted my opinion and then backed it up.
Why can't you do that?
Because Christianity has been rising in adherents for 2,000 years and is still rising.
CBN. Really? The flatulent Pat Robertson network??

Neither of your souces--Wikipedia, which is open to editing by its users, and the christian broadcasting network--is worth a pile of cow shit. You haven't backed up your beliefs with anything.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686363 Jan 16, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Africa?
Christianity is rising all over the world.
India has seen a 66% growth.
Mongolia had four Christians in 1989. Four. In 2008, they had over 40,000.
Singapore has seen a 17.5% rise.
South Korea, 29%.
Vietnam, 600%.
Norway, 231%.
The estimates at the current rate show that Christianity will continue to rise on every continent.
The Americas have 804,140,000 Christians today. In 2050, there will be 1,005,838,000.
Europe has 550,911,000 Christians. In 2050, 951,270,000.
Africa has 482,240,000. In 2050, 670,607,000.
Asia has 278,273,000. In 2050, 353,125,000.
The numbers speak for themselves.
No doubt this is more bullshit from the Pat Robertson network.

You lost this debate the moment you came to this thread.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686364 Jan 16, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
I have just explained it to you.
You know I am right; admit it.
You have nothing else to say.
Now, fix me a sandwich.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
RiversideRedneck wrote:
No you didn't.
Yes I did; here it is again.

To all the American christians who claim they are not bound by the Old Testament laws of the Hebrews and that the laws don’t apply to Gentiles, but believe the Ten Commandments should be displayed in Public schools, Public buildings and on Public property, allow us to remind you that the Ten Commandments are Hebraic Old Testament Law.

You don't get to spin it or deny it however you want; it's a fact, like evolution and gravity.

Deal with it.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686365 Jan 16, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> nice pic! who is that dark haired beauty?
{*blushes*} Me.{*aw, shucks.....*}

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#686366 Jan 16, 2014
Scrooge wrote:

Are you trying to break your own damn record for posting the most definitively wrong statements in one night? Science understands how life began naturally and is working towards duplicating the process in a controlled environment.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Science does NOT know how life began.
Unlike you whackjob religionists, it doesn't claim to.
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
2. IF they figure out how to create life in a lab, that only proves that life needs to be designed and created.
Figuring out a process and repeating it is not the same thing as designing or creating it.

Science figured out how photosynthesis works, it did not create it.

Dummy.

Since: Jan 14

Hanoi, Vietnam

#686367 Jan 16, 2014
Is it due to some anal-order fixation, where you can't bear to have a conflicting viewpoint surviving despite your superior knowledge of the absence of God?

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