Prove there's a god.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682097 Jan 1, 2014
timn17 wrote:
You didn't say how the baker was discriminated against, you just said that he was discriminated against because of his religion. How was he?
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Their religion was ignored and they were forced to make cakes for marriages they didn't condone.
http://abcnews.go.com/m/story...
This is just part of the story, which I don't think you read, from the link you provided:

"A Colorado baker who refused to make a cake for a gay couple has been given an ultimatum by a judge; serve gay weddings or face fines.

1. Administrative law judge Robert N. Spence found Friday that Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Denver, Colo. violated the law when he turned away David Mullins, 29, and Charlie Craig, 33, from his shop last year.

In his written decision, Spence ordered that Phillips "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples, or face financial penalties, and cited Colorado state law that prohibits businesses from refusing service based on race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation.

"At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses," Spence wrote. "This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are."

Mullins and Craig married in Massachussets and had originally gone to Masterpiece in July 2012 because they wanted to a cake for their wedding reception in Colorado. When Phillips refused, the pair went to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission (CCRC) on their behalf.

According to the complaint, Phillips told the couple that the store policy was to deny service to customers who wished to order baked goods for a same-sex wedding, based on his religious beliefs.

Phillips told the men, "I'll make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just don't make cakes for same-sex weddings."

The judge's decision states in its Finding of Facts that Phillips believes creating same-sex wedding cakes would be "displeasing God and acting contrary to the teachings of the Bible."
In concluding that Masterpiece Cakeshop acted unlawfully, a CCRC investigation also showed evidence that Phillips was willing to bake a cake for the "marriage" of a pair of dogs, but not for two women...."

To repeat: "Phillips was willing to bake a cake for the "marriage" of a pair of dogs, but not for two women...."

The baker was just a religiously bigoted piece of slime, who was found in violation of state law. As far as I'm concerned, he got off easy.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682099 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No. The Bible doesn't condemn black people for being black. People that use the Bible to support racism are ignorant of the Bible's true teachings.
You cannot compare sexuality to race, as race cannot be chosen while sexuality can be....
Sexuality can be chosen?

Did you "choose" to be straight? If so, why?

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682100 Jan 1, 2014
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
No. The Bible doesn't condemn black people for being black. People that use the Bible to support racism are ignorant of the Bible's true teachings.
You cannot compare sexuality to race, as race cannot be chosen while sexuality can be.
<quoted text>
Isn't isn't the homosexuality that's a sin, it's the homosexual sex. It's as much a sin as heterosexual sex outside of marriage.
This is something I think you don't quote grasp.
<quoted text>
Wrong.
The New Testament's "sexual immorality" is relevant to all sexually immoral acts, of which homosexuality is one.
You people think the Bible focuses on homosexuals, you're totally wrong.
<quoted text>
As stated above, it's about ALL sexually immoral acts.
<quoted text>
Red herring.
You don't understand that verse, either. Lot spent too much time around the creature comforts of life in Sodom, his testimony was tarnished. But he kept his faith in God and God delivered him. Twice.
Also, there was no laws about sexual relationships until Leviticus 18.
"All acts of love are my rituals." Gospel of Aradia

Screw the bible.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682101 Jan 1, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
One is a declarative statement of unsubstantiated "fact," designed deliberately to cut off all discussion, while the other is an expression of faith. Go with th faith, it's more credible, less argumentative, and not in the least bit necessary to defend.
I freely admit that the goddess and her consort are myth. But it's what's behind the myth that's important. When someone says, "All acts of love, compassion and pleasure gain favor with the Goddess," some Pagans will claim that to be a literal truth, while I choose to look at the message behind the myth. And I'll still raise a toast to Aphrodite and Dionysus every full moon, because 1) I like ritual, and 2) I see it as a way of putting out some positive energy into the cosmos.
But you have told me in a declarative way to pray to your Goddess.

I knew better than to think you were forcing your religion and/or your Goddess on to me.

I'm smart enough to know better.

You? Apparently not.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682102 Jan 1, 2014
timn17 wrote:
Sigh. This is typical of you. You repeat yourself over and over, and then when your opponent finally gets tired of it, you claim "victory." Incredibly annoying. I could take the time to go back and respond to you, but I might as well just refer you to my earlier posts, since you simply repeated yourself.
That's how it goes for losers, timn.

I say this.

You say that.

Then I respond to your that.

Then you "get tired of it all".

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682103 Jan 1, 2014
friend of wings wrote:
<quoted text>
Interpretation: and only recently have atheists and non-theists been able to persecute, bash, criticize, condemn, mock ,slander and make fun of Christians without being burnt alive at the stake or having their head cut off....
So you want atheists to be burned alive at the stake and have their heads cut off. Just like in what you call the good old days.

Shut up, porter. You are such a moron.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682104 Jan 1, 2014
timn17 wrote:
Really? So religious beliefs take precedence over any other concern? If it is my religious belief that black people are subhuman and must be treated as such, should my beliefs be respected or ignored?
Nonsense.

There's no religion that would condone that.

Except maybe Darwinism.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682105 Jan 1, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
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FYI the Hare Krishnas feed homeless people, also.
LuciFerr wrote:
<quoted text>
So do Atheists, without the brain washing :)
And without the "Hey, look at me! I'm helping people because I'm a christian!!"

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682107 Jan 1, 2014
Rosa_Winkel wrote:
<quoted text>
Happy New Year, Kaitlin.
Right back atcha!

How's the hangover?

;-)

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682108 Jan 1, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
timn17 wrote:
You didn't say how the baker was discriminated against, you just said that he was discriminated against because of his religion. How was he?
<quoted text>
This is just part of the story, which I don't think you read, from the link you provided:
"A Colorado baker who refused to make a cake for a gay couple has been given an ultimatum by a judge; serve gay weddings or face fines.
1. Administrative law judge Robert N. Spence found Friday that Jack Phillips of Masterpiece Cakeshop in Denver, Colo. violated the law when he turned away David Mullins, 29, and Charlie Craig, 33, from his shop last year.
In his written decision, Spence ordered that Phillips "cease and desist from discriminating" against gay couples, or face financial penalties, and cited Colorado state law that prohibits businesses from refusing service based on race, sex, marital status or sexual orientation.
"At first blush, it may seem reasonable that a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone it chooses," Spence wrote. "This view, however, fails to take into account the cost to society and the hurt caused to persons who are denied service simply because of who they are."
Mullins and Craig married in Massachussets and had originally gone to Masterpiece in July 2012 because they wanted to a cake for their wedding reception in Colorado. When Phillips refused, the pair went to the American Civil Liberties Union, which filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission (CCRC) on their behalf.
According to the complaint, Phillips told the couple that the store policy was to deny service to customers who wished to order baked goods for a same-sex wedding, based on his religious beliefs.
Phillips told the men, "I'll make you birthday cakes, shower cakes, sell you cookies and brownies, I just don't make cakes for same-sex weddings."
The judge's decision states in its Finding of Facts that Phillips believes creating same-sex wedding cakes would be "displeasing God and acting contrary to the teachings of the Bible."
In concluding that Masterpiece Cakeshop acted unlawfully, a CCRC investigation also showed evidence that Phillips was willing to bake a cake for the "marriage" of a pair of dogs, but not for two women...."
To repeat: "Phillips was willing to bake a cake for the "marriage" of a pair of dogs, but not for two women...."
The baker was just a religiously bigoted piece of slime, who was found in violation of state law. As far as I'm concerned, he got off easy.
Got off easy?!

What would you want to do, execute him for not agreeing with gay marriage?

Did you read the CCRC investigation file? It's a PDF. You should read it. The claim of Phillips making a cake for a dog wedding is strictly the lesbians word. There is NO evidence for that claim.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682109 Jan 1, 2014
destroy atheism wrote:
<quoted text>Reported.
LuciFerr wrote:
<quoted text>
Rank amateur.
He's also hateful, bitter and impotent.

He asked his right hand last night, "Ya wanna f**k?"

His hand replied, "Not tonight, I have the cramps."

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682110 Jan 1, 2014
iversideRedneck wrote:

No. The Bible doesn't condemn black people for being black. People that use the Bible to support racism are ignorant of the Bible's true teachings.
You cannot compare sexuality to race, as race cannot be chosen while sexuality can be....
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Sexuality can be chosen?
Did you "choose" to be straight? If so, why?
I said it can be chosen, not that it is always chosen.

Please pay attention.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682111 Jan 1, 2014
destroy atheism wrote:
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Reported. Requested that you be banned.
Al Garcia wrote:
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No man, don't be pullin this banning crap. That would make you no better than that azz wipe Pomona. Freakin aye, one should be able to express their criticism without the the fear of censorship. And one should be free to be feel the sting of that criticism. Wtf? Dont like something ? Ban it. It hurt my feelings? ban it.Ît disagrees with my POV? Ban it.
That's crap. Let them say, let them express, even if it is stupid shit from Pomona.
Happy New Year, Al!!

The only time Topix ever bans anyone is on account of excessive obscenities; there wasn't a single obscenity in the post that li'l "da" wants banned.

He's such an impotent, hateful and flatulent li'l moron.

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#682112 Jan 1, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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"All acts of love are my rituals." Gospel of Aradia
Screw the bible.
Uh-huh...

You and Aradia seem to confusing sex and love.

Both are possible without the other.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682114 Jan 1, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
<quoted text>
They were killed after being disarmed; that means, they were unarmed when they were killed.
Comprehension is key, ar ar.
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> I think one of them redskin's fired the first shot? whoop's, that was politically incorrect, i ment "native american"
From what I've read, it was an accidental discharge when a soldier was attempting to seize a rifle from an Indian who was deaf, and who did not understand the order.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682115 Jan 1, 2014
king wrote:
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rrednex
Can't argue with *that!*

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682117 Jan 1, 2014
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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Stop posting to yourself, porter, you look silly.
But then, you *are* your only friend, aren't you?
destroy atheism wrote:
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. You just can't stand it that I've caused several friends to chime in on this forum.
All your friends live inside your head.

...y'friggin' moron...

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682118 Jan 1, 2014
friend of wings wrote:
<quoted text>
Interpretation: and only recently have atheists and non-theists been able to persecute, bash, criticize, condemn, mock ,slander and make fun of Christians without being burnt alive at the stake or having their head cut off....
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Christians deserve to be criticized, condemned and made fun of. For me doing so is both a hobby and a recreational activity. And the best way to make fun of Christians is to quote the Bible....
Just the crazy ones, like porter and his ilk.
Anonymous

Dawson Creek, Canada

#682119 Jan 1, 2014
irecknso wrote:
<quoted text> the short time i've been here, i've seen you copy and paste the same $#!t over and over! c'mon dude, use your own intellect and speak YOUR mind! JESUS' SWORD was the word of GOD! but that is only" my" opinion! you seem to have little insight of thought and meaning to the BIBLE! to me it all comes down to moral's, values, character, which alot of people have none, including this guy right cheer! but your lack of is obvious in your post! now dazzle me with more insight on your copy and pasting skill's!
your ignorance is a fine example of the results of christian faith

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#682120 Jan 1, 2014
destroy atheism wrote:
<quoted text>
. You just can't stand it that I've caused several friends to chime in on this forum. We are working hard to show others how despicable your traumatic anti-Christian stance is. So far, we are getting great response and have shown many how ugly you are . Many will cling to Christianity as we show them how awful atheism is.
Your life, your words, your vile posts speak volumes as to how mentally disturbed atheism has destroyed you.
I'm afraid you are too far gone to be helped.
Sorry you missed the smart train and ended up on the back of the fucktard wagon, then fell out and into the dumbass ditch. Again.

Wear your seat belt next time.

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