Prove there's a god.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#680369 Dec 25, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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Yes I know, you take all biblical verses out of context.
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Liar.
The Bible supports cannibalism. The following enumeration covers virtually every relevant biblical comment and shows the key verses fall into two broad categories: those in which God or Jesus commands or condones cannabalistic activity and those which merely relate activities of this nature. One can justifiably accuse the Bible of advocating cannabalism in light of the former but not the latter. Merely relating instances of cannabalism, rape, incest, or other atrocious behavior doesn't mean such activities are being fostered or proposed. Among the former are such verses as:
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat" (Lev. 26:29) and
"I will cause them to eat the flesh of their sons and the flesh of their daughters, and they shall eat every one the flesh of his friend...." (Jer. 19:9) and
"I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh, and they shall be drunk with their own blood as with wine" (Isa. 49:26 RSV) and
"Therefore fathers shall eat their sons in the midst of you, and sons shall eat their fathers...." (Ezek. 5:10).
In addition, there are statements by Jesus which some Christians have chosen to spiritualize, while other interpret them literally:
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye shall have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:53-54) and
"as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it and broke it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take eat; this is my body. And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; For this is my blood...." (Matt. 26:26-28, Luke 22:19-20, Mark 14:22-24, 1 Cor. 11:24-26) and
"He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me and I in him.... So he that eateth me, even he shall live by me" (John 6:56-57).
Then, of course, there are verses which merely relate or predict cannabalistic activity:
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2 Kings 6:28-29 RSV) and
"The hands of compassionate women have boiled their own children; they became their food...." (Lam. 4:10 RSV) and
"What is to die, let it die; what is to be destroyed, let it be destroyed; and those that are left devour the flesh of one another" (Zech. 11:9 RSV) and
"They snatch of the right, but are still hungry, and they devour on the left, but are not satisfied; each devours his neighbor's flesh" (Isa. 9:20 RSV) and
"you shall eat the offspring of your own body, the flesh of your sons and daughters.... The man who is the most tender and delicately bred among you will grudge food to his brother, to the wife of his bosom,...so that he will not give to any of them any of the flesh of his children whom he is eating.... The most tender and delicately bred woman among you...will grudge to the husband of her bosom...her children whom she bears, because she will eat them secretly,..." (Deut. 28:53-57 RSV).
His masters and his pastor never showed him all *that* from the buybull. If they turn away from it, close their eyes to it, and refuse to recognize it, then for them it simply does not exist.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#680370 Dec 25, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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You're a liar. You deliberately change people's posts, and then respond to them.
How just is a cause you have to lie for?
Reverend Alan wrote:
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Good question. Everyone sees what RR is doing, he can't very well hide it. All his posts are there if any one doubts his trying to deceive us. Why RR continues to beat a dead horse is a mystery to me.
He's desperate to convince himself of his own lies. The truth terrifies him.

“Don't try to goad me...”

Since: Nov 07

... I'm a goadless heathen.

#680371 Dec 25, 2013
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> 3 elements? You mean 3 atoms?
Hydrogen? Oxygen? Pretty sure I recently saw them on the Periodic Table of Elements.

Ah, I see... 3 atoms of 2 elements. Yes, I suppose.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#680372 Dec 25, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
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RR has to drag everything down to the ridiculous as it is his only out.
The earth rest on pillars (1 Sam. 2:8);
Since the earth rests on pillars it should be a simple thing to build a bathroom scale big enough to place the earth on it. Oh ooops I forgot:
The earth won't be moved (1Chron. 16:30);
Scratch that idea. I guess we won't be putting the earth on any bathroom scale.
At least we can still laugh at RR.
Dr Shrink wrote:
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you poor half head
find out hebrew words "pillars" and their meanings
and word"earth won'be moved
such half head uneducated cretins I never meet,
who open their mouths having not clue about paraolic meanings of ancient nations using such language till today among tribes, middle east people and even East Europa old slavic languages
DUMBS LIKE YOU,ONLY THIS COUNTRY GAVE BIRTH as aborted humankind embrios
what you say if I will tell you,"you look like POS?
are you look like POS or like human?
he he heeeee idiot
electromagnetic pillars are pillars made from concrete,or your own dung?or???
he he heeeeeee
You poor, dumb, pole-smoking pendejo.

Kaitlin the Wolf Witch

“An Ye Harm None, Do As Ye Will”

Since: May 10

I Am A Religion-Free Zone

#680373 Dec 25, 2013
Fundamentalist christian hatred comes a combination of their inability to think rationally and their shameful *refusal* to think rationally. And their excuse for it comes from “divine forgiveness.

Science is too complicated for *true believers*; they want simple, easy answers to complicated questions. They are driven to frothing fits of rage that we non-christians--whether we are atheist or agnostic, or even whether we are believers, like deists, Buddhists or even Pagans like myself--prove them wrong time after time after time, especially with their own buybull; and they resent all of our thought-provoking, rational challenges to their simpleminded foolishness. Like the muslim fanatics they decry, They-Don't-Want-To-Think; worse yet, they want to drag the rest of the world down to *their* level of ignorance, stupidity and illiteracy.

And we non-christians won't let them do it.

They are Taliban christians, and they resent our intelligence, our talents for rational thought, and our intellectual and spiritual *freedom.* They want us to be stupid and fearful, like them, because they are intellectually lazy; we won't do it, and they hate us for that. The posts that they leave here on this thread alone are irrefutable proof of what I’m saying.

They call *me* "hateful," because I won't take their sh*t; I throw it right back at them, and they cry foul. "You can't do that to us; *we're christians!!* But our jesus says *we* can sh*t on *you!!*"

They are also *afraid* of their bible god, and we aren't--and they hate us for that, too. They hate us for not sharing in their fear.*THEY-ARE-AFRAID!* They suppress that fear, and as a result it transforms itself into psychosis. The only reason why they believe in their buybull is because they are too afraid not to; like helpless, immature little children, they fear eternal punishment from their imaginary bogeyman Satan, as is promised for those who do not believe by their Filthy Book of Lies and its New Testament.

They speak of "God's love," and how much they "love" their god; they "love" their god the way a clingy, beaten-down housewife "loves" her abusive, alcoholic husband. An abused wife asks herself, "If I have my husband taken to jail, what will I do? Where will I go?" It's the same way with those fundies and their bible god; when reason and the light of understanding disprove the existence of their god, what will they do?

It's not a wonder that hateful, assclown christians from the past, who are no different from those of today, wanted to burn Galileo at the stake.

Fundies are stuck in the past, with their hate and the lust for the blood of those who would defy them by refusing to bow down to their phony god of the bible.

Cling to your god out of fear, fundies, but don't expect the rest of us to cling to it; we don't need to.

These fundie christians have done wonders in reinforcing my beliefs about those backward, mouth-breathing, slack-jawed paste-eaters who would rather sit in their soiled underwear and finger paint their walls with their own feces than read a book.

“"None shall pass"”

Since: Jul 11

There

#680375 Dec 25, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
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...
He's desperate to convince himself of his own lies. The truth terrifies him.
That IS the problem with most theists.

They do not have enough faith to accept the truth.
christINSANITY is EVIL

Fergus, Canada

#680376 Dec 25, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Fundamentalist christian hatred comes a combination of their inability to think rationally and their shameful *refusal* to think rationally. And their excuse for it comes from “divine forgiveness.
Science is too complicated for *true believers*; they want simple, easy answers to complicated questions. They are driven to frothing fits of rage that we non-christians--whether we are atheist or agnostic, or even whether we are believers, like deists, Buddhists or even Pagans like myself--prove them wrong time after time after time, especially with their own buybull; and they resent all of our thought-provoking, rational challenges to their simpleminded foolishness. Like the muslim fanatics they decry, They-Don't-Want-To-Think; worse yet, they want to drag the rest of the world down to *their* level of ignorance, stupidity and illiteracy.
And we non-christians won't let them do it.
They are Taliban christians, and they resent our intelligence, our talents for rational thought, and our intellectual and spiritual *freedom.* They want us to be stupid and fearful, like them, because they are intellectually lazy; we won't do it, and they hate us for that. The posts that they leave here on this thread alone are irrefutable proof of what I’m saying.
They call *me* "hateful," because I won't take their sh*t; I throw it right back at them, and they cry foul. "You can't do that to us; *we're christians!!* But our jesus says *we* can sh*t on *you!!*"
They are also *afraid* of their bible god, and we aren't--and they hate us for that, too. They hate us for not sharing in their fear.*THEY-ARE-AFRAID!* They suppress that fear, and as a result it transforms itself into psychosis. The only reason why they believe in their buybull is because they are too afraid not to; like helpless, immature little children, they fear eternal punishment from their imaginary bogeyman Satan, as is promised for those who do not believe by their Filthy Book of Lies and its New Testament.
They speak of "God's love," and how much they "love" their god; they "love" their god the way a clingy, beaten-down housewife "loves" her abusive, alcoholic husband. An abused wife asks herself, "If I have my husband taken to jail, what will I do? Where will I go?" It's the same way with those fundies and their bible god; when reason and the light of understanding disprove the existence of their god, what will they do?
It's not a wonder that hateful, assclown christians from the past, who are no different from those of today, wanted to burn Galileo at the stake.
Fundies are stuck in the past, with their hate and the lust for the blood of those who would defy them by refusing to bow down to their phony god of the bible.
Cling to your god out of fear, fundies, but don't expect the rest of us to cling to it; we don't need to.
These fundie christians have done wonders in reinforcing my beliefs about those backward, mouth-breathing, slack-jawed paste-eaters who would rather sit in their soiled underwear and finger paint their walls with their own feces than read a book.
nicely said!
happy holidays everyone

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680378 Dec 26, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
You have to prove there *is* a god.
No I don't.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680379 Dec 26, 2013
LuciFerr wrote:
No wonder you have such a poor grasp on historical events and with comprehending what you read, you seem to think everything can be interpreted however you want to interpret it, like the bible.
Incorrect.

I've never once tried to interpret the Bible as I see fit.

Try harder, please.
Yet is appears, more than ever, that you have not read it so I'm glad the rev is posting it for you, shocking isn't it?
Anyone can copy/paste the Bible.

That Rev Anal does it is no surprise.

The atheists love quoting the Bible.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680380 Dec 26, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
If it's a Federal law, it sure as hell does.
The Post Office--a governmental agency--is closed on christmas; therefore....
Church/State violation.
By making Christmas a federal holiday, the government is not making a national religion.

So no, it doesn't violate the 1st Amendment.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680381 Dec 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
I can't prove God.
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Then stop telling us that it's real, and that the proof is in believing in it.
I also can't prove what clouds are made of.

I guess that means clouds don't exist, either.

Because RR can't prove em.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680382 Dec 26, 2013
Cvvl wrote:
Erm, no. H2O is (as I'm sure you know) 3 distinct elements forming a compound. I don't believe the trinity is supposed to be 3 distinct anythings, so that analogy fails...unless you concede tri-theism.
Really?

God
Jesus
Holy Spirit

Those seem to be "three anythings"....
Father, son, husband are all titles a single individual may hold, as are brother, boss, buddy, asshat and hero. Are you trying to imply that the trinity is just one being with multiple titles? Then why not a quadrinity or even an octinity?? Father, son, spirit, saviour, sacrifice, man, messiah, myth.
It was a simple analogy for the simple minded.

Strange that it overshot your intellect.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680383 Dec 26, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
Three *separate* things, as you just called them, cannot be one thing.
How is he his own father?
How is he his own son?
"father" and "son" are not literal concepts in the Trinity.

They aren't "three separate things".

They are God, one thing.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680384 Dec 26, 2013
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
So *you* determine what your omnipotent "god" can and cannot do.

RiversideRedneck wrote:

No, ma'am.
The Bible does.
Kaitlin the Wolf Witch wrote:
The bible didn't make the claim; you did.
Another debate on what RR didn't say?

This is getting tiresome.

The Bible tells what God can't do, not me.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680385 Dec 26, 2013
River Tam wrote:
You still celebrate the birth of the ancient Jew.
Strange way to put it, but yes. Most of the world does.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#680386 Dec 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
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"father" and "son" are not literal concepts in the Trinity.
They aren't "three separate things".
They are God, one thing.
That's what Hinduism says, too!

Ever heard of Trimurti?

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680387 Dec 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes. I wrote:
"But I've never said anything about having a conversation with God."
Which is what I've been telling you.
I've never claimed to have a conversation with God. That would be an exchange of words or ideas back and forth.
God spoke to me. Once. We didn't have a conversation.
I hope that clears it up.
I doubt it.
Hukt on Fonix wrote:
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Why are you telling ME in the first place!?!
There was never any question about it on my end.
Are we clear NOW?
Jeezus!
Because you've been lying, saying that I've posted that I've had conversations with God.

Hope that clears things up.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680388 Dec 26, 2013
karl44 wrote:
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\
you claim a god
you cannot prove the claim
that is a delusion
You claim it's a delusion.

You cannot prove that claim.

You have a delusion.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680389 Dec 26, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
Why do you believe the Winter Solstice celebration was only celebrated after the signing of the Declaration of Independence?
I don't.

I've never said nothing of the sort.

RiversideRedneck

“Ditat Deus”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#680390 Dec 26, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:

See what I mean by you won't listen?
You don't want to discuss the verse we were talking about, 2 Kings 6.
How about we stick to 2 Kings 6 for now, you have made the subtle claim that it means the Bible condones cannibalism.
You're wrong and you know you're wrong.
This I think is why you want to divert away from it.
Reverend Alan wrote:
"So we boiled my son, and ate him. And on the next day I said to her,`Give your son, that we may eat him.' but she has hidden her son" (2 Kings 6:28-29 RSV)
That verse is one which merely relates or predicts cannibalistic activity:
We were talking about verses where God orders Cannibalism!
That verse is NOT God ordering cannibalism.

You're wrong and you don't even know it.

This is what I mean by you cannot debate.

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