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#674393 Nov 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>Here are the posts from this past Friday:
"OCB wrote:
<quoted text>I can't prove I have *a*"conscious".
If you're asking me to prove I AM conscious, the fact that I am typing is proof of that along with proof I am alive.
Or perhaps you're trying to ask me to prove I have a *conscience*.
I don't have the need or desire to try and prove ANYTHING to you, RR.
Why am I even answering you?
Seriously, you're like a TWO year old!
Grow the F*CK UP already, RR.
Your Peter Pan routine isn't cute, it isn't clever and it's tedious."
RR replied- his post #673901:
"Lol, and they call me the pedant....
Peter Pan routine? I don't understand the reference."
Of COURSE he didn't "understand the reference" but in typical RR fashion, he's now trying to back pedal his way out of it.
Had he ANY clue, he would have understood the reference.
That's a given.
But he thinks he sounds smart and "educated" using words like "pedant".
LOL!
"Peter Pan routine"

You think I can fly?

You think I don't age?

You think I don't grow up?

You think I know a pixie?

You think I'm the leader?

You think I'm a swashbuckling sword fighter?

You think I'm handsome?

What?

You never explained your lane reference.

“let's do this thang!”

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#674394 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
"...and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus answered him, Thou sayest" (Matt. 27:11) and Jesus answered him,`sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?" (John 18:34) and "Pilate therefore said unto him,`Art thou a king then?' Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king" (John 18:37) and "And went again into the judgment hall, and saith unto Jesus, Whence art thou? But Jesus gave him no answer" (John 19:9).
Jesus often gave insolent replies and evaded questions. A civil response or a simple yes or no would have been more appropriate, not to mention polite.
BUT to some, the only deserved response is to be cast into a lake burning with fire and brimstone.

DON'T BE THAT DORK!

“let's do this thang!”

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#674395 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
It was a good question Kait asked you. If you want to be a disciple of Jesus, Jesus makes it crystal clear what you must do. Since you refuse to obey the commands of Jesus, how can you expect other people to do so?
"...none of you can be my disciple unless he gives up everything he has" Luke 14:33
"If you want to be perfect, go and sell all you have and give the money to the poor and you will have riches in heaven" Matt. 19:21
"Sell your possessions and give alms" Luke 12:33
"But give what is in your cups and plates to the poor, and everything will be clean for you" Luke 11:41
"Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt,.... But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven.... for where your treasure is, there will your heart be also" Matt. 6:19-21
"How hardly shall they that have riches enter to the kingdom of God" Mark 10:23
"Truly, I say to you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God" Matt. 19:23-24
A certain ruler told Jesus that he had obeyed all the commandments from his youth up. But, Jesus said, "Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me" Luke 18:22, Mark 10:21
This is proof that you are not a real and true Christian.
would you like me more or less, if i was your definition of a real true christian, Al?;)

“let's do this thang!”

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#674396 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
(1) "Thirty and two years old was he (Jehoram) when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem 8 years, and departed without being desired. Howbeit they buried him in the city of David, but not in the sepulchres of the kings" (2 Chron. 21:20) and "the inhabitants of Jerusalem made Ahaziah his youngest son king in his stead.... So Ahaziah the son of Jehoram king of Judah reigned. Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign...." (1 Chron. 22:1-2). If Jehoram began to reign at age 32 and ruled 8 years, then he died at age 40. Yet, his son took over at age 42. Imagine a son two years older than his father!
(2) "In the thirty and first (31st) year of Asa king of Judah began Omri to reign over Israel, twelve years:...." (1 Kings 16:23) versus "So Omri slept with his fathers, and was buried in Samaria and Ahab his son reigned in his stead. And in the thirty and eighth (38th) year of Asa king of Judah began Ahab the son of Omri to reign over Israel" (1 Kings 16:28-29). How could Omri have reigned 12 years if he ruled from the 31st to the 38th year of Asa's rule? And how could Ahab have taken over from his father Omri in the 38th year of Asa's rule when Omri didn't give up his rule until the 43rd year of Asa's rule (31 + 12=43)?
(3) "Solomon had three score and ten thousand (70,000) that bare burdens, and four score thousand (80,000) hewers in the mountains; Beside the chief of Solomon's officers which were over the work, three thousand and three hundred (3,300) which ruled over the people that wrought in the work" (1 Kings 5:15-16) and "the house which king Solomon built for the Lord, the length thereof was threescore (60) cubits, and the breadth thereof twenty cubits and the height thereof thirty cubits" (1 Kings 6:2) and "...So he was 7 years in building it" (1 Kings 6:38). It took 153,300 men seven years to build a house that was 60 cubits by 20 cubits by 30 cubits or 96 X 32 X 48 feet. The mountain labored and brought forth a mouse.
(4) Now, behold, in my (David) trouble I have prepared for the house of the Lord an hundred thousand talents of gold, and a thousand thousand talents of silver...." (1 Chron. 22:14). The gold collected amounted to $3 billion and the silver amounted to #2 billion. In other words, David gathered more bullion than was possessed by the Roman Empire at the height of its power.
(5) "Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six (666) talents of gold...." (1 Kings 10:14). A talent of gold is worth over $29,000. The chief of a petty, barren district of Asia Minor without significant arts, manufacture, or civilization received $20,000,000 per year. Yet, the Romans only got $22,500,000 from all their Asiatic provinces.
to be continued...
preach on, baby boy!

Al - "i love the Bible....i think it should be quoted often":-)

“let's do this thang!”

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#674397 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
What does the Bible tell you about this "best company"?
THE GOD WHO SAYS 'DO NOT KILL', KILLS REPEATEDLY:
"there came out a fire from the Lord, and consumed the 250 men that offered incense" (Num. 16:35).
"the Lord sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died" (Num. 21:6).
"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound and I heal...." (Deut. 32:39).
"The Lord smote the men of Beth-shemesh, because they had looked into the ark of the Lord, even he smote of the people 50,070 men: and the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten many of the people with a great slaughter" (1 Sam. 6:19).
"The Lord kills, and makes alive: he brings down to the grave, and brings up" (1 Sam. 2:6).
"the hand of the Lord was heavy upon them of Ashdod, and he destroyed them, and smote them...." (1 Sam. 5:6).
"it came to pass about 10 days after, that the Lord smote Nabal, that he died" (1 Sam. 25:38).
"Who smote great nations and slew mighty kings...." (Psalms 135:10).
"For by fire and by his sword will the Lord plead with all flesh: and the slain of the Lord shall be many" (Isaiah 66:16).
"I will dash them one against another, even the father and the sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them" (Jer. 13:14).
"I have sent among you the pestilence after the manner of Egypt: your young men have I slain with the sword...." (Amos 4:10).
"For our God is a consuming fire" (Heb. 12:29).
Also note: Gen. 38:7,10, Ex. 22:23-24, Num. 11:1, Deut. 32:41-42, Joshua 10:10-11, 1 Sam. 5:9, Psalms 136:17-18, Hosea 9:16, Amos 2:3, Ex. 4:24, 2 Sam. 6:6-7, and 2 Kings 5:7.
THE GOD WHO SAYS 'DO NOT KILL' ORDERS KILLING:
"ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall put 10,000 to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword" (Lev. 26:7-8).
"the Lord said to Moses, Take all the heads of the people, and hang them up before the Lord against the sun, that the fierce anger of the Lord may be turned away from Israel. And Moses said to the judges of Israel. Slay every one his men that were joined to Baal" (Num. 25:4-5).
"Vex the Midianites and smite them" (Num. 25:17).
"But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breathes. But thou shalt utterly destroy them...as the Lord thy God has commanded thee" (Deut. 20:16-17).
"So Joshua smote all the country of the hills...he left none remaining, but utterly destroyed all that breathed, as the Lord God of Israel commanded" (Joshua 10:40).
"As I listened, god said to the others,'Follow him through the city and kill, without showing pity or compassion. Slaughter old men, young men and maidens, women and children...." (Ezek. 9:5-6).
"And the Lord sent you on a mission, saying 'Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.'" (1 Sam. 15:18).
"Attack the land of Merathaim and those who live in Pekod. Pursue, kill and completely destroy them' declares the Lord. Do everything I have commanded you" (Jer. 50:21).
"Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys" (1 Sam. 15:3).
Also note: Ex. 32:27-28, Num. 21:34-35, 31:7-8, 35:19-21, and Jer. 48:10.
give it up Al, you can't defeat God nor kill His Body on earth - many mightier than you have tried;)

OCB

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#674398 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
"Peter Pan routine"
You think I can fly?
You think I don't age?
You think I don't grow up?
You think I know a pixie?
You think I'm the leader?
You think I'm a swashbuckling sword fighter?
You think I'm handsome?
What?
You never explained your lane reference.
OMG. This is hilarious!

You want it explained to you which of Peter Pan's characteristics I was referring to.

You need an explanation for what you call a lane (sic) reference because you are so lame as to not realize how appropriate the reference was.

And I'm not gonna "explain" it to you- MUCH funnier this way!

“let's do this thang!”

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#674399 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
This is the same God that goes around smearing shit on people's faces?
"Behold I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts...." (Mal. 2:3).
You know, quite honestly waaasssuuupp, it does not surprise me that you would consider someone who goes around smearing shit on people's faces "good company" although one must wonder what you consider bad company.
moral of story: DON'T MESS WITH GOD OR HIS PEOPLE!

sheesh Al, you seem to know more than most about this and yet you still persist!

wouldn't wanna be in your dumb shoes in the end......

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#674400 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I believe in God and I'll stand up for Him.
Do you believe in unicorns?
You may be seated.

I have a pet bicorn.

“let's do this thang!”

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#674401 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
Interestingly enough, wwaassuupp, according to the Bible you are not a Christian because you do not abide in Christ.
Since no Christian abides in Christ, how you can ever be saved becomes a logical question. Why can't people abide in Christ? Because everyone commits anti-social behavior, or what biblicists refer to as sin, and that excludes them summarily:
"Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him" (1 John 3:6),
"No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God" (1 John 3:9 NIV),
"We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin, the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18 NIV).
Obviously, then, no one has ever been born of God since all biblicists continue to sin, regardless. Until someone can demonstrate sinless perfection, abiding in Christ remains illusory.
And to make matters even worse from the biblicist's perspective, James 2:10 NIV says, "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." Also note Matt. 5:19. Since every believer repeatedly stumbles on one point or another, all believers are equally immoral. In other words, while John alleges that any sin obviates any possibility of one abiding in Christ, James asserts everyone commits the most heinous of acts.
you sound remarkably like satan did to Jesus during His temptation in the wilderness:

"if you're the Son of God....if you're the Son of God....if you're the Son of God....blah blah hate hate blah blah...."

do you really want to align yourself with the biggest loser of them all, Al?

“let's do this thang!”

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#674402 Nov 18, 2013
Reverend Alan wrote:
<quoted text>
What is the truth wwaassuupp? Has anyone ever seen God's face and lived?
John 1:18 "No man hath seen God at any time;..."
Exodus 33:20, And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.
John 6:46 "Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father."
1 John 4:12 "No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us."
Versus
Gen. 32:30 "And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved."
Exod. 33:11 "And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend."
Num. 14:14 "...that thou LORD art seen face to face,..."
Job 42:5 "I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee."
Deut. 34:10 "And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face,..."
Deut. 5:4 "The LORD talked with you face to face...."
What is the truth wwaassuupp? You speak about it AS IF you actually knew something about it.
the truth in this context is whatever it is that is angering you, so keep doing whatever it is you're doing cuz it's increasing my faith in the Truth!:)

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#674403 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Not publicly.
He was too smart to do that.
The Christian Germans 'needed' a Christian leader.
So he acted the part.
And you know this how? The potentially forged table talk?

“Ditat Deus”

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#674404 Nov 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>That's hilarious!
You didn't google ANYTHING I didn't already know. Too funny that you're so delusional!
I googled what I did to show what YOU had plagiarized!
I plagiarized a book title?!

"OCB wrote:
You're a fuckin' lying pile of cow puke.
"Peter Pan first appeared in a section of The Little White Bird, a 1902 novel written by J.M Barrie for adults."

"RR wrote:
"and there's also The Little White Bird, the book from which Peter Pan came from."

You learned something.

I hope.

“Ditat Deus”

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#674405 Nov 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>OMG. This is hilarious!
You want it explained to you which of Peter Pan's characteristics I was referring to.
Yes.

Go.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

Orlando but NYC born & raised

#674406 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I plagiarized a book title?!
"OCB wrote:
You're a fuckin' lying pile of cow puke.
"Peter Pan first appeared in a section of The Little White Bird, a 1902 novel written by J.M Barrie for adults."
"RR wrote:
"and there's also The Little White Bird, the book from which Peter Pan came from."
You learned something.
I hope.
OMG- NO ONE can be this dense- not even YOU, RR.

By rightly accusing you of "plagiarizing", you did so by failing to cite your source or to provide a link.

Here is the source you used:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan

Of course, you will say it is NOT the source you used, but your own brain that just happened to have that knowledge and yet.....and yet....you STILL don't "understand the reference" of me telling you to cut the Peter Pan crap and especially since it's so OBVIOUS in that post-#673901- why I SAID that!

Post #673901 is your response to my post with the Peter Pan reference.

And you still remain clueless.

AND a liar.

OCB

“What a GLORIOUS day!!!”

Since: Apr 12

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#674407 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes.
Go.
NO.

Read your post #673901- it is your response to my post in which I referenced Peter Pan.

Think of it as a "riddle", RR- they're really good for exercising the brain!

The explanation is within my post to which you responded.

If you knew the FIRST thing about Peter Pan and what his most outstanding trait/characteristic was, you would not need an explanation even if the explanation was NOT contained within my post.

Have fun working it out!

“Darwin was right..of course.”

Since: Jun 11

Evolution is true.....

#674408 Nov 18, 2013
waaasssuuup wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL - more proof that there is no evidence against the Truth of the Bible!:)
There is tremendous evidence against the 'Truth' of the Bible...wake up my friend. You just fail to understand or accept it.

“Ditat Deus”

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#674409 Nov 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>OMG- NO ONE can be this dense- not even YOU, RR.
By rightly accusing you of "plagiarizing", you did so by failing to cite your source or to provide a link.
Here is the source you used:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan
Of course, you will say it is NOT the source you used, but your own brain that just happened to have that knowledge and yet.....and yet....you STILL don't "understand the reference" of me telling you to cut the Peter Pan crap and especially since it's so OBVIOUS in that post-#673901- why I SAID that!
Post #673901 is your response to my post with the Peter Pan reference.
And you still remain clueless.
AND a liar.
I plagiarized nothing.

I'm familiar with Peter Pan and I know it originated with The Little White Bird.

I did not know that The Little White Bird was from 1902, though.

You don't believe me.

I don't care.

Here's my shocked face:

'__'

“Ditat Deus”

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#674410 Nov 18, 2013
OCB wrote:
<quoted text>NO.
Read your post #673901- it is your response to my post in which I referenced Peter Pan.
Think of it as a "riddle", RR- they're really good for exercising the brain!
The explanation is within my post to which you responded.
If you knew the FIRST thing about Peter Pan and what his most outstanding trait/characteristic was, you would not need an explanation even if the explanation was NOT contained within my post.
Have fun working it out!
I've got it!

You think I'm a leader, just like Peter Pan.

Stop it, you're embarrassing me.

“Ditat Deus”

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#674411 Nov 18, 2013
timn17 wrote:
<quoted text>And you know this how? The potentially forged table talk?
lol

"potentially"

Nice try, buckwheat.

Since: Sep 10

San Francisco, CA

#674412 Nov 18, 2013
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
I plagiarized nothing.
I'm familiar with Peter Pan and I know it originated with The Little White Bird.
I did not know that The Little White Bird was from 1902, though.
You don't believe me.
I don't care.
Here's my shocked face:
'__'
Of course OCB doesn't believe you.

Neither do I, and I doubt too many here do.

You've been around long enough for us to get to know you.

You're transparent.

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